2002 TL-S...bumpy ride!

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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 06:40 AM
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2002 TL-S...bumpy ride!

I've driven this car for a couple of months now...and I must say that, the ride is soooo bumpy ...my friend rides a Honda Accord and (I have driven his car) and the drive was a lot smoother especially on bumpy road...He's very sympathetic though..but you should see the satisfaction in his face...Accord drives smoother than a TL
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 07:28 AM
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Check your struts. Maybe they are leaking or one may even be blown. Still on stock suspension? From what I remember, my stocks were the smoothest ride I ever felt and no accord felt close to it.

Oh yea, choppy tires or a bent or unbalanced rim can also cause a rough ride.
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 07:42 AM
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I'm in an '03 TL-S 13,xxx miles, stock suspension......the ride is great. A lot of my friends have accords and I must say that the ride is very smooth. Not smoother than the TL though. IMHO
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 08:46 AM
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I recently bought a 2002 TL-S as well. I feel you on the bumpy ride; I am going to get the wheels balanced to see if that helps.
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 08:55 AM
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for 1 your in a TL its not sopposed to be LEXUS smooth. Its a sport sedan. (so acura would call it) 2nd the shocks and sways are different from the accord, they are designed for more performance. and lastly the TL-S has 17 with low profile tires which will also contribute to the rougher ride.

No having said that if something is wrong it would be in your shocks
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 10:19 AM
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That's what it is.

If your car has more than 45k miles, new tires and aftermarket shocks would make a big difference.
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 10:41 AM
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my struts are blown too. but before it was blown, it used to ride on clouds. extremely smooth and no accord can come close to how our TL's ride. go replace your struts and then tell us if the accords are smoother than yours
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 12:09 PM
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My friend's 98 V-6 accord suspension absorbed more of the road than my Type-S. That is normal, you are comparing a family sedan to a sport sedan. The suspensions are tuned differently.

I personally like my Type-S suspension better. I get better road feel than in the Accord but that's just a preference.

As everyone else has suggested, have you car checked out. You might have something broke or damaged.
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Chet03TL-S
My friend's 98 V-6 accord suspension absorbed more of the road than my Type-S. That is normal, you are comparing a family sedan to a sport sedan. The suspensions are tuned differently.

I personally like my Type-S suspension better. I get better road feel than in the Accord but that's just a preference.

As everyone else has suggested, have you car checked out. You might have something broke or damaged.
exactly - if you compare a TLP to an Accord, then you will see that the TL is very smooth. Its just that the type s makes the ride very stiff. I have the Comptech springs on my car that make it rougher, but its still not near as rough as my friends CLS.

so its just the suspension.
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 01:30 PM
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I own a 2000 V6 Accord, a 99 TLP and a 2003 TL-S. I think the TLP ride is alot smoother then the Accord. But one thing I got to say about the Tranmission. The 2000 Accord tranmission shift smoother then my 99TL. I have over 100K on the Accord and still have the original tranny.

as for the 99TL (4Speed) I have 80K with a little over 10K the second tranmission, and I just change 4 new engine and tranny mounts, still the shift is not as smooth as the 2000 Accord.

However, the 2002 TL-S (5 Speed) is smoother then the Accord but the suppension is not as smooth as the Accord. So I think it depends on the car you have and the ride might be a little different.
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 01:42 PM
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While were on this suspension thing, let me ask. My 02 Type S now has almost 118k miles on it. I dont know if its the stock suspension but i am guessing yes. I hear this like "er er" from the left and right rear suspension at low speeds, over small bumps etc. Its freakin annoying. I sat in the back and jumped up and down in the seat and it'll do it. I have ask acura about the replacing the shocks and they said they should be fine till like 150+. Is that right? Is there grease fittings to replace? I've seen on ebay tockio's, nothing fancy cuz i don't want any more performance than what it has, for like $300. Give me your thoughts. When i had the car aligned noone said anything was wrong with them and when i had the tires balanced and rotated they said they were wearing evenly.
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 01:47 PM
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Replace your shock is bad. I had the same problem making the same sound going over bumbs at low speed. I replace all 4 shock at 50K and resolved the sound problem and the ride improved alot. It really depends where you live in NYC area like my I wish my shock last over 75K
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 01:50 PM
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well i came from TX and thats were the car was also, so i just go to NY, i dont live in the city so i dont have to deal with the bashing city goers do!!
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 02:02 PM
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Hey, Welcome to NY!!!.
Yeh I hate driving in the city I have to keep calling 311 all the time, to fix the god dam holes near my house. Well as for the shocks, if you want to improve your ride I guess you can go with the tockio adjustable, do not get the regular tockio they sucks. If you want to stay stock go back to OEM Acura do not get KYB. I think you can get OEM Acura under $90 each online like http://www.oemacuraparts.com
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 02:14 PM
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so these suck?:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/TOKIC...spagenameZWDVW
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 02:49 PM
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I too have a 02TLS and must say I love the ride. It is stiffer than most cars. But it is a sports sedan. It is suppose to give a stiffer ride. However if the bumps cause problems you should have it checked out.
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by RickRoush03

Don't go back to stock shocks, they are not as good as Tokico HP and are more expensive. Tokico HP is as good as stock or better with life time warranty, it is good for stock replacements. If you want something better than go with Tokico Illumina, these are adjustable. Stock shocks are not as responsive as the Tokico. Do the searching and you will find a lot of feedback from other members.
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 03:03 PM
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just called the acura dealer here, to see how much the shocks would be installed. now i new what their answer would be, this is how much the install is, let me have you talk to parts for the price of the shocks.

so i call and sure enough, she goes its 1.5 hrs per shock of labor plus parts. i said listen, i called to ask HOW MUCH IT IS INSTALLED, not how long it takes and figure out the total myself. well sir its $135 per shock plus the shocks. i said does that include an alignment, nope, another $70. i was like, great, bye.

Are they smoking crack? Firestone is calling me back for a price.

How long should this take? Are they easy enough to do myself if i get to a lift, anything special on this car to know about?
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 03:10 PM
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Siocontl, the TL-S is factory tuned for performance and as a result the ride is bumpy. If you want a more comfortable ride, trade in for a TL-P, or swap your springs, shocks, sway bars, and 17" wheels/tires with those from a TL-P. The 16" wheels/tires, although look ugly, will give you an ever-enjoyable easy ride. I'm sure a lot of TL-P owners will die to do the swap with you.
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 04:30 PM
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Well the issue with my 02tl-s is not with the bumps; it handles them fine; but there always seems to be a slight vibration when i'm driving; i feel it in my stomach.
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by pdprich
do not get KYB.]
Y not? ive used them many times in the past and they were always good (nothing like the koni's ive had) but good. I just threw a pair on the TL and they greatly improved the ride
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 05:06 PM
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I had KYB GR2 on my 99 TLP and I don't like the way it drives, so I decided to take them out install the shock on my 2000 Accord, and put OEM shock back on my TL. After I put the KYB shock on the Accord, the shock drives and feel alot batter then it was on the TL, when you go over a bumb at high speed you will feel that there's a little more rebound then the OEM TL shocks, also on turns you will feel that there is more sway then the OEM.

I did some research on the KYB shocks, I found out that they are design for the Honda Accord which is a lighter car. The shock was not design for the bigger TL, since the TL and Accord have the same shock layout design, KYB just add TL application to the same part number. OEM Accord and OEM TL shock have different valve design different gas pressure The OEM TL shock is only $15 to $20 more then the KYB on the internet. I think if you want to stay stock, you shoud go with OEM ACURA I think is worth it.
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by RickRoush03
just called the acura dealer here, to see how much the shocks would be installed. now i new what their answer would be, this is how much the install is, let me have you talk to parts for the price of the shocks.

so i call and sure enough, she goes its 1.5 hrs per shock of labor plus parts. i said listen, i called to ask HOW MUCH IT IS INSTALLED, not how long it takes and figure out the total myself. well sir its $135 per shock plus the shocks. i said does that include an alignment, nope, another $70. i was like, great, bye.

Are they smoking crack? Firestone is calling me back for a price.

How long should this take? Are they easy enough to do myself if i get to a lift, anything special on this car to know about?
no there is nothing special - just the bullshit prices you get from a dealer. go to a performance shop - I was quoted $100 to install new springs and struts. Since its no harder to do both at the same time than just one thing.
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Old Oct 13, 2005 | 08:45 AM
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well i would, its just hard for me being new here, i dont have all my contacts i did in san antonio where i could make a call and its taken care of. anybody have some guys in the fishkill, ny area they'd recommend?
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