2000 TL with original timing belt ???
11-21-2007, 10:43 PM
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2000 TL with original timing belt ???
I'd like to know how many of you who have 2000 TL with ORIGINAL timing belt? Please state the mileage of your car as well. Thanks.
Mine has 96,000 km (60,000 mi) and it still has the original TB (the 7-year time limit is now exceeded). Since the TB replacement is expensive, I want to have some idea how much longer I can defer the expense. Thanks.
Mine has 96,000 km (60,000 mi) and it still has the original TB (the 7-year time limit is now exceeded). Since the TB replacement is expensive, I want to have some idea how much longer I can defer the expense. Thanks.
11-21-2007, 11:46 PM
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About my 1999, I have 132K on the same belt, and will start to think about replacing it around 150K. I have changed out a number now on my son and daughter's Acuras and my Subaru and the old belts all looked quite good. You can search this forum and find confirmation to this. I think it is a very small risk to extend it out. You can also can get a look at your belt by removing one of the top timing belt covers without much hassle.
11-22-2007, 08:08 AM
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Id be ALOT more concerned with the AGE of the belt than miles. Rubber and age dont mix. If i were you i would think about changing it soon.
Also do a search, This has been discussed numerous times this past year
Also do a search, This has been discussed numerous times this past year
11-22-2007, 04:08 PM
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The manufacturers are typically conservative in setting the maintenance schedule. They probably set for 20 percentile of worst drivers/conditions. Generally most drivers can extend the maintenance schedule without causing any problem.
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11-22-2007, 06:07 PM
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extended miles yes, timewise NO,
taking a 2500$ chance on engine damage, or pay a private shop 800 and motor along happily andother 100k
taking a 2500$ chance on engine damage, or pay a private shop 800 and motor along happily andother 100k
11-22-2007, 07:23 PM
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fsttyms1 went 200k on his original timing belt, but he put those miles on in about 4-5 years, then he pulled the motor, which looked and ran perfect, and dropped in the 6 speed
Rubber has a life limit, and as a tech- I have looked at belts that seemed fine, and may have broken a month later.
You cant tell anything looking at the outside of the belt
The book schedule is not a minimum- its MAX, and you may qualify for severe service limits as well.
Rubber has a life limit, and as a tech- I have looked at belts that seemed fine, and may have broken a month later.
You cant tell anything looking at the outside of the belt
The book schedule is not a minimum- its MAX, and you may qualify for severe service limits as well.
11-22-2007, 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by bluefin
I think it is a very small risk to extend it out.
It's an expensive maintence service, but to do it every 60-80k is not that bad at all. As you see it approaching the time/mileage put money aside for it.
11-23-2007, 02:50 AM
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Its about DECAY from ozone that kills rubber, the tensioner pulley takes care of stretch
Yes it is like a car tire with many things inside it, whatever was good stuff several years ago has probably been replaced with better by now
Yes it is like a car tire with many things inside it, whatever was good stuff several years ago has probably been replaced with better by now
11-23-2007, 07:45 PM
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Sure there is a safety margin built in
On a 4banger acura we had- it went 175k on tbelt, then grenaded the motor
Our motors are the same ZERO clearance engine- meaning valves and pistons collide and bend and break things.
When a t-belt breaks, the engine stops running, maybe even while it was parked,
Whats your first try-turn the engine over, maybe several tries...all trashing more internal parts. Had a P-911 in the shop once that had just had new t-belt done and drove 100 miles, car wont start, wife goes crank crank crank
Bad news for them too, zero clearance and an unhappy shop that had done the job and just bought a motor. The customer worked for the BAR- Bureau Automotive Repair, go figure the karma of that one~
On a 4banger acura we had- it went 175k on tbelt, then grenaded the motor
Our motors are the same ZERO clearance engine- meaning valves and pistons collide and bend and break things.
When a t-belt breaks, the engine stops running, maybe even while it was parked,
Whats your first try-turn the engine over, maybe several tries...all trashing more internal parts. Had a P-911 in the shop once that had just had new t-belt done and drove 100 miles, car wont start, wife goes crank crank crank
Bad news for them too, zero clearance and an unhappy shop that had done the job and just bought a motor. The customer worked for the BAR- Bureau Automotive Repair, go figure the karma of that one~
11-24-2007, 08:44 AM
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Right after I hit "submit" I knew I was in for a small controversy. I admit, my six belt experience and the few more I read about in this forum do not make a scientific study. And the failure curve could be moving at a greater rate at about 150K than I actually would feel comfortable with. But after removing so many belts (some 8 yrs old) that did not look much different from the new one I put in, I changed my limit. I also became suspicious when I had a choice between a 60K or a nitrile 90K "California" t- belt for my Subaru. I appreciate the learned wisdom of this group. I will report on my 150K belt trial when the time comes. I wish one of the t-belt engineers read this column. The selection of the 70-105K replacement times (depending on your car make), must have had some failure rate data or calculation, besides some self interest to sell and install t-belts. I know the dealers like these ratings. Someone did report failure at 175K and that is getting close to my 150K. I bet among this group, we won't have much failure data to report, as all love their TLs too much to "risk" it. And I won't recommend anyone else follow my line. Maybe I will chicken-out at 140K. But if it is still winter time at 140K..... Thanks to all.
11-24-2007, 01:04 PM
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96k on my 2000 and its on its original belt I am not at all looking forward to the 105k service with the belts service its not cheap. I am pretty sure it is also time to replace the spark plugs but thats not an expensive service its the timing belt thats going to make me go broke.
01-05-2008, 05:05 AM
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Replacing it Now
I have my 2000 TL with 79.000 miles in for a transmission replacement under the recall at Acura of Portland, in Oregon. Since they will have my car down for a few days I'm having the water pump, tensioner, and the timing belt done at the same time.
It's the years, going on 8 that worries me about timing belts, not so much the mileage. When I worked for Costco Tires I learned from a senior technician of 24 years in the tire business that time will wear out your rubber parts as well as miles.
He stated that tires should be replaced at 10 years whether they looked like it or not since the atmosphere, ozone mentioned in an earlier post, and pollution will damage the rubber. The timing belt of 8 years is the same issue now.
They quoted me $550 for the timing belt, but since I'm doing the other items at the same time it's going up. The price isn't a huge deal since it will give me peace of mind for another 100K.
I had a VW Jetta GLI 16 Valve that had the timing belt break while driving down the highway a few years ago. It was $1,600 to replace the valves and rebuild the head since it wasn't a clearance motor. It's a lot more for a V-6 with two heads and 8 more valves.
It's the years, going on 8 that worries me about timing belts, not so much the mileage. When I worked for Costco Tires I learned from a senior technician of 24 years in the tire business that time will wear out your rubber parts as well as miles.
He stated that tires should be replaced at 10 years whether they looked like it or not since the atmosphere, ozone mentioned in an earlier post, and pollution will damage the rubber. The timing belt of 8 years is the same issue now.
They quoted me $550 for the timing belt, but since I'm doing the other items at the same time it's going up. The price isn't a huge deal since it will give me peace of mind for another 100K.
I had a VW Jetta GLI 16 Valve that had the timing belt break while driving down the highway a few years ago. It was $1,600 to replace the valves and rebuild the head since it wasn't a clearance motor. It's a lot more for a V-6 with two heads and 8 more valves.
01-08-2008, 02:46 PM
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Hello,
I have a 2000 Acura TL, the tranny was replaced last month. It has approximately 94400 miles on it right now. It has the original timing belt, alternator, power steering belts.
I have spoken to a local shop honda acura mechanic. He mentioned a good time to replace these is between 105k - 109K. I have asked him have you ever seen an Acura TL with a ripped, destroyed belt. He said no. I have heard of timing belts breaking at over 155,000 miles on civics. Has anyone ever heard of an ACURA TL 1999 - 2003 timing belt bust at under 106K miles.
Thanks.
I have a 2000 Acura TL, the tranny was replaced last month. It has approximately 94400 miles on it right now. It has the original timing belt, alternator, power steering belts.
I have spoken to a local shop honda acura mechanic. He mentioned a good time to replace these is between 105k - 109K. I have asked him have you ever seen an Acura TL with a ripped, destroyed belt. He said no. I have heard of timing belts breaking at over 155,000 miles on civics. Has anyone ever heard of an ACURA TL 1999 - 2003 timing belt bust at under 106K miles.
Thanks.
01-08-2008, 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by rich9
Hello,
I have a 2000 Acura TL, the tranny was replaced last month. It has approximately 94400 miles on it right now. It has the original timing belt, alternator, power steering belts.
I have spoken to a local shop honda acura mechanic. He mentioned a good time to replace these is between 105k - 109K. I have asked him have you ever seen an Acura TL with a ripped, destroyed belt. He said no. I have heard of timing belts breaking at over 155,000 miles on civics. Has anyone ever heard of an ACURA TL 1999 - 2003 timing belt bust at under 106K miles.
Thanks.
I have a 2000 Acura TL, the tranny was replaced last month. It has approximately 94400 miles on it right now. It has the original timing belt, alternator, power steering belts.
I have spoken to a local shop honda acura mechanic. He mentioned a good time to replace these is between 105k - 109K. I have asked him have you ever seen an Acura TL with a ripped, destroyed belt. He said no. I have heard of timing belts breaking at over 155,000 miles on civics. Has anyone ever heard of an ACURA TL 1999 - 2003 timing belt bust at under 106K miles.
Thanks.
01-08-2008, 04:03 PM
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It's a ticking time bomb
Unless you absolutely have to, why play Russian Roulette with your engine? There's no question that it will break: the only question is when. So why not have the peace of mind (unless you really can't afford it) and know that it's done. Every 100K isn't so back for a $500 service item. These cars are really well made and will serve you well if you take care of them. You'll end up buying an engine if the belt breaks and that's a whole lot more than the t-belt. Good luck with whatever you decide!
01-11-2008, 07:25 PM
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I have 99,600 miles on my TL and was going to wait until the end of next month to get my t-belt done. I'll probably only put 1k on it between now and then, so is it too dangerous to wait several weeks?
The car's in-service date was 12/00 and it's an 00 model....so its a month over the 7 year mark.
Is it big enough of an emergency to get it done right now or can it wait a month?
The car's in-service date was 12/00 and it's an 00 model....so its a month over the 7 year mark.
Is it big enough of an emergency to get it done right now or can it wait a month?
01-11-2008, 07:52 PM
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start looking for a shop to do it and the water pump together but dont freak out about it.
Cars that are driven are better than cars that sit for months and the rubber rots.
Change the spark plugs yourself if they are still the originals
Cars that are driven are better than cars that sit for months and the rubber rots.
Change the spark plugs yourself if they are still the originals
01-11-2008, 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by 01tl4tl
start looking for a shop to do it and the water pump together but dont freak out about it.
Cars that are driven are better than cars that sit for months and the rubber rots.
Change the spark plugs yourself if they are still the originals
Cars that are driven are better than cars that sit for months and the rubber rots.
Change the spark plugs yourself if they are still the originals
It's been such a great car. I may buy a second car--93-95 Taurus SHO like I had in high school. I love those cars but my gosh they are a POS. They are the same size as the TL and have about the same hp. I'm a glutton for punishment with the old SHOs. I'm just glad I have a TL now as my reliable DD.
01-12-2008, 04:55 PM
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namibian: you seem to have the original t-belt for the longest period (~ 9 years) as well as the highest mileague.
Have you driven your car like a granny or like a spirited driver ? And what area of the country the car locates ? Thanks.
Have you driven your car like a granny or like a spirited driver ? And what area of the country the car locates ? Thanks.
01-13-2008, 01:10 AM
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I purchased my 99 TL 6 months ago w/ 67,000. It has a little over 70,000 miles on it now, but I don't know if the timing belt was ever replaced 
Nothing in the manual indicates it.
Nothing in the manual indicates it.
01-13-2008, 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by TVD
namibian: you seem to have the original t-belt for the longest period (~ 9 years) as well as the highest mileague.
Have you driven your car like a granny or like a spirited driver ? And what area of the country the car locates ? Thanks.
Have you driven your car like a granny or like a spirited driver ? And what area of the country the car locates ? Thanks.
I'm definitely no granny, generally pretty moderate. The car spent its first 4 years in Miami, and the past 4 in Minneapolis.
07-21-2008, 05:03 PM
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Timing belt replaced 104000 miles
Just replaced the timing belt, water pump, two accessory belts for 2000 TL.
This was done at 104300 miles. Cost was approximatly 225 for parts and 340 for labor. Honda Acura repair shop did the work.
This was done at 104300 miles. Cost was approximatly 225 for parts and 340 for labor. Honda Acura repair shop did the work.
07-21-2008, 07:25 PM
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Kris I thought you pickedup a low mileage motor for $800? I was thinking it might be worth it just to drop a new motor in the car....
I went 107K and chickened out. Friend of mine has gone 160k on a timing belt.
Thoughts?
I went 107K and chickened out. Friend of mine has gone 160k on a timing belt.
Thoughts?
07-21-2008, 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by rob-2
Kris I thought you pickedup a low mileage motor for $800? I was thinking it might be worth it just to drop a new motor in the car....
I went 107K and chickened out. Friend of mine has gone 160k on a timing belt.
Thoughts?
I went 107K and chickened out. Friend of mine has gone 160k on a timing belt.
Thoughts?
