Vman159

Hey,
I am thinking about to go to the track tommorow and test my car after seafoaming it. the last time i did 1/4 mile track was about 3 months ago, My question is can i damage my tranny if i just do about 2 races to test D5 and SS? because i have been reading the tranny failure threads and now i am getting scared to do anything at all..

01tl4tl

downshifting into 3rd and 2nd is whats hard on the trans
Use the brakes at the end of the race~

Rajca

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if u do it enough times (break torque that is) u could destroy the converter. motor mounts and tires will take a beating.

EL19

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Luckily I abused my tranny before my warranty was up. I wound up getting a 13.99 @101 the day before my tranny died. LOL

gfrg88

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kinda offtopic.. what does the tl-p run stock???

twistedwedge

TL-P? ^^^ mid-high 15's

Ive heard that gate shifting is the way to go-shifting just before the rev limiter- when drag racing our cars. (move the shifter up through the gate on the right, starting with 1.)

If youre not too confident doing so, just leave it in d5. I wouldnt be out there banging the hell out of the car, our transmissions arent known for durability and reliability.

fsttyms1

I got 14.9 with my TL-P gate shifting.

Vman159

is SS better than D5 on drag?

Vman159

SO you say a go or a no go to drag?

twistedwedge

nice!

VMAN-gate shift if youre gonna go...Make a couple passes, just dont go crazy. DISCLAIMER:Im not responsible for any transmission issues that may ensue!

Gate is on the right..start all the way at the bottom, move the shifter through each gear just before the rev limiter..good luck

Vman159

well took my car after seamfoaming it. My car is a 2000 stock tl-p and before seafoam i ran 16.9 to 17.1 Now i ran 16.5 in D5 is that good? All stock no headers or anything

fsttyms1

Not good. I ran a 14.9 with no resonator and comptech axle back mufflers.

fsttyms1

And the 1/4 mile isnt going to kill your trans. City driving is far harder on it.

'03TL-S

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Yeah those numbers are still too high for a TL-P. You should try cleaning the EGR ports, throttle body, idle air control valve, and remove the intake resonator.

Rockstar21

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i ran 15.45 leaving the car in D4

17.1 is horrible when compared to what it could run.

you need to address some things and get that cat purring again..

Vman159

I thought i did great there was a si doing 16.3 stock. my tl was never raced now i am the second owner and i step on the pedal. Well i seafoamed my car what else can i do that involves cleaning?

Vman159

show me your racing slip theres no way you can do that almost stock.

Rajca

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hes running 13.9 or .8 now. its possible if u launch it at the right rpm, knew when to shift (67-6800rpm on the s) and the sticky tires at the right psi. theirs more to drag racing then just bolting up and exhaust or intake. suspension is also key

Vman159

I dont believe that, an evo did at the track 14.1 stock. An evo will beat a tl-p.
fsttyms1 are you all stock??

Rajca

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he wasnt stock. now he is 6spd and has more mods. u need to catch up

Rajca

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that evo driver doesnt know how to race or their is a problem with the car. should me easily in the mid 13's

gfrg88

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wtf?? that evo driver needs to learn how to drive lol

Vman159

Than i can only be compared to auto. 6 speed is way different timing

Rajca

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6spd is a beast. for those lucky enough to have the swap or to have a cl-s6 know the power.but u should be around 15 stock

'03TL-S

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Where are you from and what track did you go to? maybe elevation plays a role in the times or maybe it's a slow track.

Vman159

I am located in washington state, and the track is just a city track, when i got 16.5 my tires did not spin they are some touring tires from previous owners and have good tread so i keep them until they go bad. Does that gain time if i dont spin

Rajca

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if u dont spin u will run better times but thats not always teh case. if ur tires can chirp a bit that mean ur putting down the right amount of power while still hooking up

fsttyms1

That evo driver needs to learn to drive as well

the 14.9 i did was with the auto 7 years ago. I told you the only mods i had was the removal of resonators, comptech axle back exhaust and Good tires. Like rajca said, there is more to the 1/4 than bolting on parts and giving it gas. YOU need to learn how to drive, you need to gate shift, brake torque, shift at the exact time you need to. Inflating your tires to the correct PSI (not what is recommended on the door) Every little thing helps. If you can remove some of your interior you can benefit as well.

SatinSilverAV6

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hey vman, what track did you run at? what was your elevation? This makes the whole difference in what you run. If you are around sea level you should be at least in the high 15's to mid 15's at best. If you are here in tucson where I live at 3075ft elev. you would be in the mid 16's - high 16's.

gold2003tl (90)

really? so up-shifts do not cause anywhere nearly as much wear as down-shifts? i should not worry as much about causing excess wear on a spirited take off, its down-shifts that's the problem and something to avoid?

example:
going from a cruise at 50 mph to wot (going from 5th to 2nd) will cause more wear than going wot from a stand still?

stop and go traffic must be hard on the clutch packs, and having it shift at lower rpms might actually cause more wear?

Vman159

What will removal of resonator and comptech axle benefit, and the race track is called spokane county raceway

gold2003tl (90)

yes, removal of intake resonator will add some power, i dont know how much an axle back exhaust will add

i remember a while back i did a ruff estimate quarter mile on a back road and got somewhere around 90 mph completely stock, i didnt time it.

Rockstar21

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i have a 99 AUTO 4 speed...

i ran 15.45

you ARE being compared to a stock auto...
your car is extremely slow compared to a clean running TL.

PS the SI's are not fast at all stock.

16.3 would get smashed by my stock TL all day long...

SatinSilverAV6

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new si's run mid to high 14's with a good driver. 16.3 was a horrible driver or a 99-00 si

fsttyms1

Yes the constant shifting up and down adds tons of heat.

Vman159

I got to about 85 mph but i didnt do pedal to medal on start. Isn't it dangerous for the engine to take out the intake resonator??

gold2003tl (90)

who told you that? there is no danger in taking out the intake resonator. everyone here has done it.

gold2003tl (90)

right heat kills, i can see how being on the highway in 5th gear is much better for the car. ill just stick to being a normal driver with my new tranny.

TouringLow

lol, im waiting for "stoner" to come in here and say the usual "the tl is not fast"


goodluck with your next test runs btw.

SatinSilverAV6

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The intake resonator is like the exhaust resonator in that it just restricts and makes things quieter on the interior. No damage can be done.