03 TL AV6 transmission swap problems!
#1
03 TL AV6 transmission swap problems!
Did the av6 swap everyone recommended. Used the FAQ on the forums.. Car will only shift into 1st and 2nd gear. Won't shift into any gear after that. What could the problem be?
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Fastlife Sham (09-18-2020)
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Did you switch over the range switch and solenoids?
#4
Was the torque converter filled with ATF prior to installation ?
As Fsttyms1 previously suggested rechecking your work, as it may be something simply overlooked.
Check the fluid level and all of the solenoid connections after verifying that the gear range switch is ok.
P0780 = Mechanical problem in hydraulic control system
Could possibly be the shift control solenoid valve "A" or the A/T clutch pressure control solenoid valve set "A/B".
As Fsttyms1 previously suggested rechecking your work, as it may be something simply overlooked.
Check the fluid level and all of the solenoid connections after verifying that the gear range switch is ok.
P0780 = Mechanical problem in hydraulic control system
Could possibly be the shift control solenoid valve "A" or the A/T clutch pressure control solenoid valve set "A/B".
Last edited by 3.2TLc; 11-09-2014 at 05:37 PM.
#5
The transmission I got was used and it came with the original torque converter, they were both drained of fluids. I did not fill the converter prior to installing it. I filled the transmission with fluid then started the car, shifted through the gears and then added more fluid for what was pumped into the converter I'm guessing. I've help rebuild 2 Allison transmissions for durmax diesels and we always installed converters dry with no problems....
#7
Yeah, that's the A/T clutch pressure control solenoid valves "A/B" set.
Pull the cover with the 6 bolts on it, be careful of the plate's gasket. Underneath, you'll see 3 tubes which have screens on the bottom of each. The middle tube's screen tends to get clogged up and restrict the fluid's flow. The tubes will individually pull out, make sure that ya do only one at a time and seat them back in to the receiving hole. There's an o-ring on the bottom of each tube.
You can test the solenoids by applying power to the connector.
Pull the cover with the 6 bolts on it, be careful of the plate's gasket. Underneath, you'll see 3 tubes which have screens on the bottom of each. The middle tube's screen tends to get clogged up and restrict the fluid's flow. The tubes will individually pull out, make sure that ya do only one at a time and seat them back in to the receiving hole. There's an o-ring on the bottom of each tube.
You can test the solenoids by applying power to the connector.
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Leepman65 (11-10-2014)
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#8
Thanks 3.2TLc. That's the only thing I didn't swap out on the transmissions. The gear range switch was fine when I had the TL trans in it, I read that when you install that on to the transmission, it has to be in neutral; I had it in park. Should that be a problem??
#9
Does the shift indicator show up normally when each gear is selected ?
If in doubt, simply readjust the gear position switch or shift cable as recommended by the manual.
If in doubt, simply readjust the gear position switch or shift cable as recommended by the manual.
#10
Ok I swapped out the A/T clutch pressure control solenoid and nothing changed. I then swapped two that are ontop of the transmission under the throttle body and coolant piping. After swapping them I now have what I think is 3rd. To get it to start in 1st gear I have to shift all the way down to 1st, shift to 2nd but have to let off the gas for it to shift and then it will shift to 3rd but it is really weak like its in a higher gear or slipping really bad but can still get up to speed. What to do next? Any suggestions?
#11
Any CEL codes ?
Is the ATF fluid level ok ?
Was the gear range selector replaced ?
How many miles were on the donor "AV6" ?
Perhaps try having the tranny's line pressure checked ?
Is the ATF fluid level ok ?
Was the gear range selector replaced ?
How many miles were on the donor "AV6" ?
Perhaps try having the tranny's line pressure checked ?
#12
I haven't checked for any codes dice the last one I posted. The fluid level is good. Gear range selector was swapped from the tl trans to the av6. Miles I am unsure of. The donor vehicle had an interior fire so they couldn't confirm mileage. Where is the shift control solenoid valve "A" located?
#13
The shift control solenoid "A" is located on the front side of the tranny, just above valve "C".
It's just a bit inside towards the motor, of where the ATF sensor and 3rd & 4th pressure switches are.
It's just a bit inside towards the motor, of where the ATF sensor and 3rd & 4th pressure switches are.
#14
Mr.Helpful Diagram
If I understood right:
The trans is on 3rd gear the whole time when the shifter is on D5, (meaning its in limp mode)
You're putting the shifter on 1 and 2 in order to get the car moving.
Does your speedometer currently work ?
Did you bolt down all 3 grounds on the trans ?
The trans is on 3rd gear the whole time when the shifter is on D5, (meaning its in limp mode)
You're putting the shifter on 1 and 2 in order to get the car moving.
Does your speedometer currently work ?
Did you bolt down all 3 grounds on the trans ?
#15
If I understood right:
The trans is on 3rd gear the whole time when the shifter is on D5, (meaning its in limp mode)
You're putting the shifter on 1 and 2 in order to get the car moving.
Does your speedometer currently work ?
Did you bolt down all 3 grounds on the trans ?
The trans is on 3rd gear the whole time when the shifter is on D5, (meaning its in limp mode)
You're putting the shifter on 1 and 2 in order to get the car moving.
Does your speedometer currently work ?
Did you bolt down all 3 grounds on the trans ?
#16
Get the codes as they may help narrow down the problem. Could be as simple as a faulty solenoid or wiring connection ? These tranny's are electronically controlled, ya know !!!
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It is next to the A solenoid.
All joking aside, to orientate the image to find the shifting solenoids. This image is where they would be if the case was shown.
Hope this helps.
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Last edited by outlawspeeder; 11-30-2014 at 03:11 PM.
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3.2TLc (11-30-2014)
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^^^ Excellent diagram, except the way that the tranny's end case as depicted is actually in reality ,oriented upside down from the diagram shown. So, try to visualize the shown pic with the A/T Clutch Pressure Control Solenoid Valves "A & B" on top of the tranny's case. That set is located under the TB intake hose, right behind the battery. Sure hope this helps to better visualize the solenoid's positioning on the tranny !!! ![Smile](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
Oh boy, there's sure a lot of shit to check......bah humbug !!!
![Smile](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
Oh boy, there's sure a lot of shit to check......bah humbug !!!
#20
P0758 = Problem in Shift Control Solenoid B Circuit
Check the solenoid's wiring connection and grounds.
Check for a blown #6 fuse(15A) within the driver's side kick-panel fuse box and if ok, replace the solenoid.
Check the solenoid's wiring connection and grounds.
Check for a blown #6 fuse(15A) within the driver's side kick-panel fuse box and if ok, replace the solenoid.
#23
Mr.Helpful Diagram
If you have warranty on the trans I would ask for an exchange. The wiring diagram is in the service manual, I believe theres a thread on how to download it.
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