15.09 @ 92.6 mph Conditions clear, 60 degrees

60' time was my best yet @ 2.22. Actually I was hoping for a 14.90 run or better but it got up to 60 degrees and I just couldn't get any faster. First run was a 15.24 followed by a 15.12, then I let reduced my front air pressure from 30 to 25lbs and ran the 15.09.

Seems like the engine gets up to 92 or 93 mph and just can't breath any more. Left it in D3 which worked well, left at around 1500 rpms power breaking with minimal tire spin and wheel hop. So I'll go back to Capital again if I can catch a really cold night, and then this spring on to the last mod....maybe a blower off someones' AV6!

 

hmmmm with all those mods I would have thought you would have broken into the 14's also. I wonder if your engine is just getting tired? I mean you know how a high mileage engine doesnt have what it used to...I wonder if that could be the case with your engine.

 

Yes very possible!

 

Any problems with traction?

There's a good way to lose LOTS of time-sping your rubber. What was your best reaction time?

man, I haven't been to Capital in ages. Saw Bill 'Grumpy' Jenkins there once.

 

Did you gate-shift or just leave it in D3?

My car shifts at approximately 6300 RPM in WOT from first to second (Type-S, so the redline is 6900). Thus, I HAVE TO gate-shift. Makes a big difference.

 

Wow that was aways back! I may have seen Don Garlits there years back but I'm not sure. Yes traction was good as the 2.22 was my best 60' ever, on that run I pretty much just nailed it and it hopped twice and took off. Reaction time is not calculated into E.T. Any possibility the upper end could use a freshening up? I don't know as the engine still uses and burns zero oil between 6K Amsoil changes, but maybe the valves are not quite right or the lifters need adjusting...any ideas? BTW at idle it still sounds like day one, an otherwise ordinary running engine although it has seen VTEC territory over 3000 times by my rough calculations. I might be asking too much, might be time for a Type-S. Nice car you got yourself there!

 

Now that may matter, I left it in D3. Everyone think I should gate shift? I would have but I was trying to avoid hitting the rev limiter and losing time.

 

Gate-shifting is the best way to go. I've tried everything, and personally find it the best method.

Yeah, it takes a lot more practice than just launching and leaving it in D3, but once you have it down, it's all good. It's kind of like playing golf. I don't know if you play golf, but when you nail every shift just perfect and net your personal best, it's like that one shot you hit just right and just goes flying. Ting!

I've run some horrible times when I was practicing gate-shifting, but who cares? At the dragstrip, it's a battle against yourself. The car's performance or capability aren't going to change. It's up to you to find the best way to launch and shift to get the best time possible. You hit the rev limiter, and lose time -- tough shit, you will only learn from your mistakes and run better next time.

 

what was teh humidity and bar pressure. those things play a role big time too.
my car was running really fast tonight. it would lay 2 foot patches every time it shifted into 2nd when i floored it from a stand still

 

60 degrees, blue sky kind of day....I think I need to go again (cooler day) and gate shift, but at what RPM? I want to avoid the rev limiter! Thanks

 

I used to gate shift when I didn't have the S/C'er. I've tried gate shifting with the S/C and it doesn't improve the times one bit. The margin of error that is present while gate shifting totally outweighs the .05 seconds you might pick up by shifting 100rpm later from 1-2. With my car the transmission shifts itself from 1-2 at the redline, everytime. Unless the car doesn't shift at redline on its own, i'd stick with D3, D4, or SS mode. I prefer SS mode with my current setup.

 

what do you guys think i would run, 2001 tl with 70k on the odometer, headers catback and aem v2 cai, as for performance...

 

that still fast for all the mile u got and some tls runs 15.2 may be a fuel pump will help get u into the 14

 

What's the difference between Gate Shifting a Sport Shifting? I always thought they were the same thing

(did know I was a NOOB)

Thanks

Joe

 

About the same as the '00 TL ran in this thread.

 

Gate shifting is when you move the gear selector all the way to "1" and shift up through the "gate." The only advantage to gate shifting is being able to control the shift from 1 -> 2. Some people claim their cars shift prior to the redline in D5, D4, D3, or SS mode.

 

then why did you guys say miles on the motor matter? he had 186k i have 70k? a high 14 would be niceee

 

I'm going back on a better day to try for a 14.8X; it got to 60 degrees AND I should of iced the intake manifold first. I'll let you guys know how I do. Trust me the engine might be alittle worn but if it is I can't tell. Still runs great in every respect. Besides I've done so many mods I'd lose my rear end if I sold it. Hell I might even do the upper end and go with a S/C this spring.

 

You may want to put some injector cleaner in your gas tank and clean your throttle body as well while you are checking to make sure your CAI filter is clean. Both of these if they are a problem would put you under 15 if taken care of.

Oh, MrSteve . . . mine is one of those POS trannys that shift before redline so I always gateshift.

Ruf

 

go for it

 

Hey Chuck,
I remember that day at the mini meet @ capital (I had the 02 anthracite TL)you were so happy to run a 14.9 what happened? You may be right engine is getting tired, although those are still descent times. Good luck with the blower...

 

Since Sunday I looked at the two timeslips very carefully, and I also took them to my drag racing friends' house to look them over to see what he thought. He knew what it was right away...Last week it was ten degrees warmer AND there was a pretty good headwind. So that is where I think I lost that tenth of a second, but don't worry, I'LL BE BACK. Thanks...yes I remember you!

 

Actually, those times sound kinda OK...you gotta remember that you're engine has a lotta miles in it...shit 186,000miles. It also seems right from the kind of bolt ons you got:

AEM CAI, Comptech headers, UR pulley

Just a comparison for your "old" engine. My 1986 toyota corolla SR5 sport has 186,000miles too and the engine is so weak i can't even chirp tires on a 5000rpm launch!...i'm suposed to be able to burn out without having to rev over 2000 with this engine and 13in rims!....and its a TOYOTA, made to last! even more than honda engines! honda is more for the reliability/durability part...toyota is just "for life"!!

peace

 

Actually, those times sound cool...you gotta remember that you're engine has a lotta miles in it...shit 186,000miles. Then, you just have AEM CAI, Comptech headers, UR pulley...i'm surprised you did so good.

Just a comparison for your "old" engine. My 1986 toyota corolla SR5 sport has 186,000miles too and the engine is so weak i can't even chirp tires on a 5000rpm launch!...i'm suposed to be able to burn out without having to rev over 2000 with this engine and 13in rims!....and its a TOYOTA, made to last! even more than honda engines! honda is more for the reliability/durability part...toyota is just "for life"!!

peace

*btw, i drive a '99Tl too...check my sig