D-009: Stock RL brake rotors versus Aftermarket Brakes Discussion
#81
i have bought the brakemotive slotted rotors and ceramic pads all around, installed since beginning of august. About 270 CND shipped to Alberta. Improved stopping power no squeaks, worth the $
#82
allllright, here we go, now, 1, 2, check, like a fart I'm here
this dated thread has my mouth watering. going to be looking for parts all afternoon. I need pretty much an entire brake set replacement. Anybody have any sweet deals?! (i'm new to the forum so i will be stumbling around the site and figuring this out the hard way..)
this dated thread has my mouth watering. going to be looking for parts all afternoon. I need pretty much an entire brake set replacement. Anybody have any sweet deals?! (i'm new to the forum so i will be stumbling around the site and figuring this out the hard way..)
#83
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You have three options... the thread you are in.
this one: Acurazine Brake Packages ACURA - Excelerate Performance - Japanese and European Performance Specialists!!
or this one: https://acurazine.com/forums/second-...rotors-873915/
this one: Acurazine Brake Packages ACURA - Excelerate Performance - Japanese and European Performance Specialists!!
or this one: https://acurazine.com/forums/second-...rotors-873915/
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#85
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let us know if we can help...
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#88
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I think it's already being discussed here: acurazine.com/forums/tires-wheels-suspension-92/awesome-brakes-877520/
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#90
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any rotor and pad combo WILL stop your car.
the feedback you are looking for is likely subjective, or seat of the pants feel and not likely to represent what the rotor is about.
with that being said; this Hawk drilled and slotted rotor will stop your car, and is as good as any other rotor out on the current market
the feedback you are looking for is likely subjective, or seat of the pants feel and not likely to represent what the rotor is about.
with that being said; this Hawk drilled and slotted rotor will stop your car, and is as good as any other rotor out on the current market
#91
any rotor and pad combo WILL stop your car.
the feedback you are looking for is likely subjective, or seat of the pants feel and not likely to represent what the rotor is about.
with that being said; this Hawk drilled and slotted rotor will stop your car, and is as good as any other rotor out on the current market
the feedback you are looking for is likely subjective, or seat of the pants feel and not likely to represent what the rotor is about.
with that being said; this Hawk drilled and slotted rotor will stop your car, and is as good as any other rotor out on the current market
Hawk is pretty solid. So yes im looking/hoping to see if anyone's run these particular rotors before i pull the trigger.
#92
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^as you said; HAWK is pretty solid.
so, no...they are not going to fall apart.
plus, they likely get thier blanks from CENTRIC.
feedback from some one that is using them; might take a long time to reply back to you; only to say what ive already said.
you cant go wrong with HAWK rotors, as it is a reputable brand
so, no...they are not going to fall apart.
plus, they likely get thier blanks from CENTRIC.
feedback from some one that is using them; might take a long time to reply back to you; only to say what ive already said.
you cant go wrong with HAWK rotors, as it is a reputable brand
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#93
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Wellman Products Group is renowned for providing engineered solutions to original equipment and aftermarket customers for products that perform in demanding aerospace, on-highway truck, agriculture, construction, mining, power sports, motor sports, automotive, military, industrial, and specialty applications. With our exceptional research and development programs, we can provide friction materials designed to improve power management for any friction application.
Wellman Products Group introduced Hawk Performance high performance disc brake pads into the motor sports arena more than 15 years ago and the brand has outperformed the competition and gained a loyal race and street following.
so, WPG owns Hawk.
do some research on WPG to see where they get their blanks from....or if they make in house, what mixtures of alloys did they use?
this information IS WAAAAAAAAAAAAY better than looking for subjective first hand reviews
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#94
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damn!!!!!! Carlisle Brake & Friction owns WPG!!!!!!
http://www.carlislecbf.com/
Carlisle Brake & Friction (CBF) is a leading solutions provider of high performance and severe duty brake, clutch and transmission applications to OEM and aftermarket customers in the mining, construction, military, agricultural, motorsports, industrial and aerospace markets. The strength of CBF's brands, including Wellman Products Group, Carlisle Industrial Brake & Friction, Hawk Performance, Japan Power Brake, and VelveTouch, gives our customers access to a diverse range of the most highly engineered braking, friction, clutch, and transmission products available to the market today. With eleven manufacturing facilities globally located in the U.S., U.K., Italy, China, and Japan, and with over 2,000 employees, CBF serves over 100 leading original equipment manufacturers in 50 countries, making CBF the right choice for your new brake or friction design, no matter where you are in the world or what you want to be.
http://www.carlislecbf.com/
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#96
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Probably overpriced.
#102
#103
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I've heard that cross drilled introduces the risk is micro fractures that can develop into cracks or catalyze warping. I personally just buy Centric blanks on Amazon and a ceramic pad set from the brick and mortar stores. If you want a look, I would go slotted and call it a day.
There have been many, many brake threads here, and none of them have any data to back up the results. It's all just anecdotal evidence. If you buy quality parts, you will do as well or slightly better than OEM. The biggest gains will be in your wallet.
There have been many, many brake threads here, and none of them have any data to back up the results. It's all just anecdotal evidence. If you buy quality parts, you will do as well or slightly better than OEM. The biggest gains will be in your wallet.
#105
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I've seen drilled rotors crack first hand. Granted, they were in dire need of replacement well before they cracked. Personally I love the slotted and blank options.
Acurazine Brake Packages ACURA - Excelerate Performance - Japanese and European Performance Specialists!!
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oo7spy (09-07-2015)
#106
Stoptech crossdrilled/slotted and EBC redpads installed
So its been awhile. I havent logged in, in 2 years. Be honest at this point im looking to get rid of my RL. Anyway needed new brakes, so i had some stoptech rotors and ebc redpads sitting around forever. Had them put on this a.m. Front only.
First thing i have to say...love them. The bite compared to OEM is far superior. No squeaks at all. The minute i attempt to apply pressure to my brakes is almost instantaneous. I bought my stoptech rotors from xlr8 2 yrs ago. This is just a quick review. I will post again when i surpass 500 miles. No squeaks at all. I even bedded them in properly. Pics are below. Feel free to contact me w any questions.
First thing i have to say...love them. The bite compared to OEM is far superior. No squeaks at all. The minute i attempt to apply pressure to my brakes is almost instantaneous. I bought my stoptech rotors from xlr8 2 yrs ago. This is just a quick review. I will post again when i surpass 500 miles. No squeaks at all. I even bedded them in properly. Pics are below. Feel free to contact me w any questions.
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#107
that looks nice! is it me or are the rotors put on correctly for them to flow that direction?
#108
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The slots don't necessarily dictate direction. The internal cooling vanes do.
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#110
I purchased this set for my 07 as well, and installed them this weekend, bedded them in yesterday.
Customer Service: typically easy eBay transaction, Brakemotive has stellar reviews. I made the mistake of only purchasing the fronts initially, and contacted the seller to see if I could return them to order the full set. They made the process much easier, and charged me the balance for the rear set. The CS rep was very responsive via emails, and this was all handled in the same day.
Packaging: Seems like the front rotors were handled pretty roughly by the UPS guy, given their weight. Must have been dropped on one side, because the cardboard outer was torn clear away, exposing the plastic wrap beneath. But no damage to the rotors or pads inside. Rears arrived no problem. Handy passenger/driver side labels on the rotors, and the pads were nicely wrapped separately from the rotors.
Install: For what it's worth, the pads were stamped "Powerstop" on the backing plate, which leads me to believe that these are similar (if not the same) as the brake packages being sold on Amazon under the name "Brakewerkz", although at a higher price. There wasn't any excessive oil on the rotors but I did wipe them down with warm water and soap just in case.
Performance: I followed a basic bed-in process best I could on public roads. 4 stops from 45 to 5'ish with no full stops. Then 8 from 60 down to around 25 on the highway, then 4 no-brake hours on the interstate to Detroit. There is barely any dusting, the brakes are quiet with no squeal, a feel firm and responsive. I can't say that they feel dramatically better than OEM, but for the price they are good so far.
We'll see how they hold up long term, as cross-drilled wouldn't have been my first choice and I'm concerned with cracking.
Customer Service: typically easy eBay transaction, Brakemotive has stellar reviews. I made the mistake of only purchasing the fronts initially, and contacted the seller to see if I could return them to order the full set. They made the process much easier, and charged me the balance for the rear set. The CS rep was very responsive via emails, and this was all handled in the same day.
Packaging: Seems like the front rotors were handled pretty roughly by the UPS guy, given their weight. Must have been dropped on one side, because the cardboard outer was torn clear away, exposing the plastic wrap beneath. But no damage to the rotors or pads inside. Rears arrived no problem. Handy passenger/driver side labels on the rotors, and the pads were nicely wrapped separately from the rotors.
Install: For what it's worth, the pads were stamped "Powerstop" on the backing plate, which leads me to believe that these are similar (if not the same) as the brake packages being sold on Amazon under the name "Brakewerkz", although at a higher price. There wasn't any excessive oil on the rotors but I did wipe them down with warm water and soap just in case.
Performance: I followed a basic bed-in process best I could on public roads. 4 stops from 45 to 5'ish with no full stops. Then 8 from 60 down to around 25 on the highway, then 4 no-brake hours on the interstate to Detroit. There is barely any dusting, the brakes are quiet with no squeal, a feel firm and responsive. I can't say that they feel dramatically better than OEM, but for the price they are good so far.
We'll see how they hold up long term, as cross-drilled wouldn't have been my first choice and I'm concerned with cracking.
#111
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on warm water and soap... That's why they invented a little thing called brake cleaner...
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#112
Stock RL brake rotors versus Centric/StopTech
I like to ask if there may be any advantage getting the Centric/StopTech rotors instead of the Acura dealer stock, The prices are about the same.
#115
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The prices are the same?
There will be no performance difference.
There will be no performance difference.
#116
Wrong
I upgraded my rotors to stop tech cross drilled/slotted w ebc red pads. I noticed a huge difference in braking feel. Brake pedal was much more responsive. Ebc red pads however, you will get a lot of dust first few weeks, once broken in it will drop considerably.
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#117
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Pedal feel is not a performance metric. How about 60-0 distance?
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#120
I will never ever get anything but OEM from now on moving forward. Stock rotors are about 100$ a piece, and brake pads about 150-160$ plus labor... anything I tried is just a shallow copy of what I had dealer install on one occassion as a courtesy.
For that feel of braking, I am going back to OEM when it comes to brakes.
For that feel of braking, I am going back to OEM when it comes to brakes.