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Old Jul 18, 2010 | 07:51 PM
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some more pics

some new wheels on the RL went 19x8.5 all around thanks to guss90s thread anyway here they are....










more to come....
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Old Jul 18, 2010 | 08:12 PM
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Looks really nice. Wise choice to not stagger them BTW. Are you lowered?
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Old Jul 18, 2010 | 09:16 PM
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looking good man....

only one thing left to do..
remove that ugly plate please!
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Old Jul 19, 2010 | 01:49 AM
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nice.....more pics plz!!!!
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Old Jul 19, 2010 | 11:23 AM
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haha blazin I do want to get rid of it but im still debating....im probably gonna do an actual shoot soon....
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Old Jul 19, 2010 | 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by BDoggPrelude
Looks really nice. Wise choice to not stagger them BTW. Are you lowered?

H+R springs aspec struts
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Old Jul 19, 2010 | 01:20 PM
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Very, very nice.
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Old Jul 19, 2010 | 03:16 PM
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Outstanding!

I've always liked the a-spec bodykit... And those wheels compliment it perfectly!

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P.S. Years ago, I used to live in a "front plate state" and it was the worst. The plate was so hard to keep clean and the plate holder scuffed up the front bumper. I'm so glad I don't have to worry about that anymore.
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Old Jul 19, 2010 | 06:53 PM
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Very sexy! Are those M5 wheels..kinda look like it. Either way, they fit very well.
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Old Jul 19, 2010 | 08:27 PM
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i love ur RL dude!
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Old Jul 19, 2010 | 08:58 PM
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Looks really nice!
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Old Jul 19, 2010 | 09:01 PM
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Nice!
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Old Jul 20, 2010 | 01:38 AM
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Looks great. Makes me want to go buy a white RL Right NOW!!!
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Old Jul 20, 2010 | 09:33 PM
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what tire set up are you running
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Old Jul 21, 2010 | 06:38 AM
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235/35/19 conti DWS.....
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Old Jul 21, 2010 | 06:51 AM
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did you take the plate off this morning?
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Old Jul 21, 2010 | 10:57 AM
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haha not yet, the cops in NJ especially small towns like the one I live in are a PITA but im still contemplating how'd you have yours setup again with magnets?
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Old Jul 22, 2010 | 01:37 AM
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The plate sticks right in the corner of the aspec kit. I just slide mine in when I park! I never get ticketed
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Old Jul 22, 2010 | 06:54 PM
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That looks absolutely perfect! Makes me want to run out and buy all that stuff for mine! Love the wheels! Gus gets credit for finding those! They look great on the el and complement the aspec kit.

How is the ride and handling with aspec struts but hr springs??
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Old Jul 23, 2010 | 02:06 AM
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sorry to go off topic..... blazing, what struts are u running?
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Old Jul 23, 2010 | 07:44 AM
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Looks very good.

I like it.

Quick question, why didnt you try the 40 series tire?

Cant wait for the proper shoot by the way.
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Old Jul 23, 2010 | 09:36 AM
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hey man, great!!
Wheels looks fantastic and the Lips Kit awsome, it made me want to order my A-Spec lip Kit already.
I need to see your car in person man.
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Old Jul 23, 2010 | 09:54 AM
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That is the best looking 05-08 RL I've seen on here. Keep up the great work bro.
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Old Jul 23, 2010 | 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by OLD_HATCH
Looks very good.

I like it.

Quick question, why didnt you try the 40 series tire?

Cant wait for the proper shoot by the way.

I was gonna go with the 40 series but the price difference was rediculous it went from being 180 a tire to like $225 and after I saw that DXplicit was runnin 20's on 225/30's I figured I could get away with the 235/35's
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Old Jul 24, 2010 | 02:59 PM
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How much do these wheels weigh vs stock?

Does it handle a lot better?
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Old Aug 2, 2010 | 08:42 AM
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i went to tire rack and looked up 19" tires and it says we should be running 255-40-19.... are 255s really going to fit?

would htey have fit on your 8.5" wide wheels?

price difference from 255 to the size have is like $50/tire for PS2s....

i guess my question is - on wheels like yours - what is the optimum tire size....?

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Old Aug 2, 2010 | 09:30 AM
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255 is the biggest you could fit on an 8.5 but it's not mandotory
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Old Aug 2, 2010 | 12:57 PM
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i know from past experience buying tires... sometimes if you put the "biggest" tire on a whel that will fit, you can actually see what looks like the sidwall somewhat "bulging"...hard to describe what i mean..but the tread almost sticks out too far...as if it looks like you put a tire on the wheel that was too big... as with many things, there is a "sweet spot" for a set tires size/ wheel width...

for this particular wheel..there is some size tire that is the "ideal" size...regadless of the price/availability... there is some size that will best equal the stock overall diameter and will fit the width of the wheel such that it looks square with the wheel/fit perfectly....

anyone knwo what that size is? poppintec - yours look great in the pics...do you think they are the ideal size or you think you could actually hae gone a bit wider?


I can't get over how good your car looks..those wheels are great! did you ever figure out how to get TPMS working on them? *CAN* we get TPMS to work on these wheels by just moving the sensors from the OEM wheels to these or does that not work???

given that these wheels weigh more than stock - does it atually hurt handling..or overall, after the upgrade in wheels/tires does the car handle better?

does the car feel "slower' by having larger wheels or is it not anything you can subjectively notice? i'm not tryign to drag anyone in my RL, but it would suck to put on nice wheels and then feel like the car became slower.. I"m guessing it's not enough to feel.

on a prior car, I upgraded brakes to 2piece rotors with aluminum hats and knocked off a LOT of weight..almost 10lbs a wheel and I couldn't feel anythign in terms of more responsiveness or acceleration..maybe it changed but nothign I could feel...so I'm guessing it's the same story here iwth the RL...

thanks for all the input..
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Old Aug 2, 2010 | 10:03 PM
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my brotha, on a 8.5 width wheel optimal will be a 235-245 width a 255 will be meaty as hell. I am far from a fan of "recommended sizes" as they look like ass. I have had anything from 225 (light stretch) to a 245 on an 8.5 inch wheel. You also need to take into consideration the aspect ratio as well as this will compromise the "look" you might be looking for as well Poppin is running the 35 series tire which gives it a solid low profile apperance which most are a fan of. If you choose to go 40 series you will have slightly more sidewall which will offer a lil more protection on your pot holes and such but might be a little too meay again if you arent looking for that look

If you like the way Poppin's looks but are alright spending a lil more money on the tire you run if i were to run these wheels id throw on a 245/35/19 as the factory 17's run a 245 so it wont look too narrow from the rear. good luck on your purchase my man.
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Old Aug 3, 2010 | 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by 23109VC
i went to tire rack and looked up 19" tires and it says we should be running 255-40-19.... are 255s really going to fit?

would htey have fit on your 8.5" wide wheels?

price difference from 255 to the size have is like $50/tire for PS2s....

i guess my question is - on wheels like yours - what is the optimum tire size....?
I have 255's, and they fit fine on 8.5, but not 8 inch wheels. Tire Rack has never changed their recommendation from back in 2006. In those days, the proper 245/40-19 size was very pricey and very rare in anything except full out summer tires. They are about 1.5% too large, but within that 2% variation range that is acceptable in conventional terms.
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Old Aug 3, 2010 | 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Chas2
I have 255's, and they fit fine on 8.5, but not 8 inch wheels. Tire Rack has never changed their recommendation from back in 2006. In those days, the proper 245/40-19 size was very pricey and very rare in anything except full out summer tires. They are about 1.5% too large, but within that 2% variation range that is acceptable in conventional terms.

So are you saying that 245-40-19 is the correct size and the 255 is 1.5% too big ?

Or the 245 is too big...

I don't want the whels to look too skinny but don't want them too fat and bulgin outside wheels face/ lip.

More pics poppin?? Or video? .
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Old Aug 3, 2010 | 10:32 AM
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next time I give it a good wash I'll get some rolling shots and some more cars to come out....
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Old Aug 3, 2010 | 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by 23109VC
So are you saying that 245-40-19 is the correct size and the 255 is 1.5% too big ?

Or the 245 is too big...

I don't want the whels to look too skinny but don't want them too fat and bulgin outside wheels face/ lip...
245/50-17 is equivalent to 245/45-18 is equivalent to 245/40-19. These are the recommended sizes for the RL based on rolling diameter and load factor.

255/40-19 is 1.45% larger in diameter than the correct 245/40-19 size, and again was recommended in 2006 because there simply were not very many 245/40-19's available...there are many more 245/40-19's now available...Tire Rack and many other sites just have not bothered to update their database. The 1.45% is an acceptable error, actually up to about 2 or 3% is supposed to be depending on the vendor you talk to.

Use this calculator to see for yourself.

http://www.1010tires.com/TireSizeCalculator.asp?

At these sizes any bulge beyond the wheel face is by design. Most low profile tires have a built in rim protector to help prevent curbing the wheel.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tirete...jsp?techid=149
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Old Aug 3, 2010 | 08:10 PM
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This generation RL literally needs so little to look like the sharpest car on the road. A drop, aftermarket wheels, tint = sex. Beautiful ride.
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Old Aug 3, 2010 | 10:40 PM
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Such a beautiful ride. Ive always loved this gen RL, makes me wanna go buy one right now lol.
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Old Aug 4, 2010 | 06:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Chas2
245/50-17 is equivalent to 245/45-18 is equivalent to 245/40-19. These are the recommended sizes for the RL based on rolling diameter and load factor.

255/40-19 is 1.45% larger in diameter than the correct 245/40-19 size, and again was recommended in 2006 because there simply were not very many 245/40-19's available...there are many more 245/40-19's now available...Tire Rack and many other sites just have not bothered to update their database. The 1.45% is an acceptable error, actually up to about 2 or 3% is supposed to be depending on the vendor you talk to.

Use this calculator to see for yourself.

http://www.1010tires.com/TireSizeCalculator.asp?

At these sizes any bulge beyond the wheel face is by design. Most low profile tires have a built in rim protector to help prevent curbing the wheel.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tirete...jsp?techid=149
The other factor that highly influences whether a tire will appear to bulge out from the wheel wells is offset. For example, 255s work fine, tucking in under the fender wells on A-Spec suspension, using 8.5 inch wheels because I have a high 48 mm offset using a wheel designed specifically with the KB1 chassis specifications. I have seen other 8.5 inch wheels with a 35 mm offset that would make the tire stick out some 14 mm more, greater than 1/2 an inch which could give you that bulging feeling you describe, rim protector technology not withstanding.

Use this calculator...

http://www.1010tires.com/WheelOffsetCalculator.asp
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Old Aug 4, 2010 | 06:50 PM
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FYI - for any of you who may also be considering these wheels - oemwheelsplus says the all silver ones are on backorder for several weeks... i called to get weights..

the 19x8.5 weights 25.9 lbs each.. which are the ones poppintec used.

the wider 9.5 wheels weigh 28.3 lbs...

I believe i read that our OEM wheels weigh about the same... give or take a little bit..but I believe the 19x8.5 wheels woudl be close enough that it would not be a problem.

anyone care to comment?

i think they are the best looking wheels in this price range...
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Old Aug 6, 2010 | 10:01 AM
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Agree!!. The other reason i gotthese wheels it's because i dont see myself changing wheels on winter time.
When it comes to Tires size. I think that 245/35 will give you more protection on pot holes and still looks great. I will not go over to a 255/35 .
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Old Aug 6, 2010 | 10:58 AM
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its not a big change my old wheels where 18's and wrapped in 45 series tire there really isn't that much of a difference in ride quality thats truly noticeable...
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Old Aug 6, 2010 | 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by 23109VC
FYI - for any of you who may also be considering these wheels - oemwheelsplus says the all silver ones are on backorder for several weeks... i called to get weights..

the 19x8.5 weights 25.9 lbs each.. which are the ones poppintec used.

the wider 9.5 wheels weigh 28.3 lbs...

I believe i read that our OEM wheels weigh about the same... give or take a little bit..but I believe the 19x8.5 wheels woudl be close enough that it would not be a problem.

anyone care to comment?

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I think you are correct... stock wheels are between 25 and 27 lbs. I have never found any published wheel weights on the OEM 17 or A-Spec 18, just oblique references such as "weighs about 5 lbs less than stock"
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