Nag screen defeated on TL
Nag screen defeated on TL
See This Thread over on the TL forum.
I ran the hack tonight and no more having to push that "OK" button! Woo-Hooo! The TL's Nav would almost always finish booting while I was busy backing out of the garage and starting down the driveway, and I'd look down to see a blank screen.
Now, the RL's nag screen isn't quite as bad, since its Nav boots so much quicker, but it would still be nice if some of you code crackers out there could do the same for the RL.
For those who are concerned about the safety aspects of avoiding this message, I can only say that after seeing the nag screen the first couple hundred times, it's pretty much ignored by everyone and becomes nothing more than an annoyance.
Anyone want to take up the challenge?
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I ran the hack tonight and no more having to push that "OK" button! Woo-Hooo! The TL's Nav would almost always finish booting while I was busy backing out of the garage and starting down the driveway, and I'd look down to see a blank screen.
Now, the RL's nag screen isn't quite as bad, since its Nav boots so much quicker, but it would still be nice if some of you code crackers out there could do the same for the RL.
For those who are concerned about the safety aspects of avoiding this message, I can only say that after seeing the nag screen the first couple hundred times, it's pretty much ignored by everyone and becomes nothing more than an annoyance.
Anyone want to take up the challenge?
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That sounds great. I'd really like to have my own wallpaper and no 'ok' button to push everytime. I checked my dvd and I have ver 4.31C and those bin files mentioned in the TL thread are not present on it
Yeah, the RL's Nav is a generation ahead of the TL's, and it takes a script kiddie or programmer or somebody to hack that stuff.
After the hack is done, though, it's a fairly simple matter of decompiling the bin file to isolate the executable (in the TL's case, the "navi.exe"), after which you run the hack to modify it, then reassemble it back into the bin file and reload to the car.
The big work is in hacking the code for the navi.exe. And I'm not smart enough to even get started doing that!
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After the hack is done, though, it's a fairly simple matter of decompiling the bin file to isolate the executable (in the TL's case, the "navi.exe"), after which you run the hack to modify it, then reassemble it back into the bin file and reload to the car.
The big work is in hacking the code for the navi.exe. And I'm not smart enough to even get started doing that!

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RL is pretty different from the TL
Originally Posted by Mike_TX
Yeah, the RL's Nav is a generation ahead of the TL's, and it takes a script kiddie or programmer or somebody to hack that stuff.
In the TL forums they describe their load procedure as taking a short while, whereas when I reloaded the data into my RL it was a good 10 minutes worth of disc->car download time.
I wouldn't imagine it's any harder with our car, but little of what they've figured out will be applicable -- at least insofar as I can tell. Certainly wouldn't mind being wrong on that one.
Originally Posted by Mike_TX
See This Thread over on the TL forum.
For those who are concerned about the safety aspects of avoiding this message, I can only say that after seeing the nag screen the first couple hundred times, it's pretty much ignored by everyone and becomes nothing more than an annoyance.
Anyone want to take up the challenge?
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For those who are concerned about the safety aspects of avoiding this message, I can only say that after seeing the nag screen the first couple hundred times, it's pretty much ignored by everyone and becomes nothing more than an annoyance.
Anyone want to take up the challenge?
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Originally Posted by Ry4an
I popped the disc from my RL into a PC and started to poke around. We've definitely got a substantially different setup from the TL folks. Their DVDs (reportedly) have a few large BIN files on them, while ours contain more individual files. We've got a few smallish .BIN files that likely have operating instructions, but all the icons, images, and screens are on the disc in what appears to be their uncompressed state. That means changing out graphics might be easier, but I didn't actually try to make any changes.
In the TL forums they describe their load procedure as taking a short while, whereas when I reloaded the data into my RL it was a good 10 minutes worth of disc->car download time.
I wouldn't imagine it's any harder with our car, but little of what they've figured out will be applicable -- at least insofar as I can tell. Certainly wouldn't mind being wrong on that one.
In the TL forums they describe their load procedure as taking a short while, whereas when I reloaded the data into my RL it was a good 10 minutes worth of disc->car download time.
I wouldn't imagine it's any harder with our car, but little of what they've figured out will be applicable -- at least insofar as I can tell. Certainly wouldn't mind being wrong on that one.
For example, we used only BNHH401A.bin to eliminate the OK screen to '06 models. There's another file on the TL disc, called HMIManager, that holds the instruction set for some of the other stuff, as well as for changing the splash screen.
But that's more than I really know anyway. I just followed the instructions.

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yeah, that differs from ours
Originally Posted by Mike_TX
Yep, my TL's Nav DVD contains 9 bin files comprising 104MB. There's only one, though, that applies to the TL of any given model year, and most of the others are for other Honda products (the same disc is used for the TSX, the Pilot and other vehicles, I'm told).
Originally Posted by Ry4an
Yeah, that differs from ours. In that configuration each vehicle type has one ninth of the total storage on the dual-layer DVD available to it. The more sane configuration, and presumably what we've got, is a small BIN file per supported vehicle all hitting the same data files that aren't packed into the BIN. That likely makes changing the data files easier but changing the actual operating instructions, including "click to show you're not an idiot", shouldn't be an harder or easier than on the TL.
That, along with the presence of so many other unneeded bin files for the system to have to shuffle through, is probably one reason the TL's Nav takes about 10 times as long to boot as the RL's.
It's just a matter of finding the one file that has the "OK" button command line in it and hacking a button press into it. In the TL, it's in the "navi.exe" file, within the bin file for the model year of the car.
Again, I'm just not smart enough to know how to do it or I'd be working on it right now!

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http://www.kptechnologies.com/
check out the navagation ok nag screen module.
Might it work with our RL?
check out the navagation ok nag screen module.
Might it work with our RL?
The single bin file that looks promising in the RL's DVD is VRDB.BIN, but I can't extract its contents for some reason. Everytime I try it returns an error code "invalid XIP file".
I had hoped to at least look inside the bin and see if there is a navi.exe file like in the TL. But alas, I can't get in for some reason.
I don't think I could crack it myself, anyway, but maybe if I isolated it, some of you smart guys out there would play with it.
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I had hoped to at least look inside the bin and see if there is a navi.exe file like in the TL. But alas, I can't get in for some reason.

I don't think I could crack it myself, anyway, but maybe if I isolated it, some of you smart guys out there would play with it.

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Originally Posted by sotiri
http://www.kptechnologies.com/
check out the navagation ok nag screen module.
Might it work with our RL?
check out the navagation ok nag screen module.
Might it work with our RL?
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Originally Posted by Mike_TX
It might very well, but doesn't that involve cutting into the harness to connect it? Those of us who lease are a little skittish about "permanent" mods like that.
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Basically its an automated 'ok' clicker, and when we push the button, it closes the switch, and the wire we are soldering is to the circuit board which is the center button.
So, its not so invasive as it sounds.
Pretty simple actually.
Still I prefer to have someone hack the DVD files.
Personally I would be willing to pitch in some $$ to some bright kid to do this.
Hopefully someone can hack this.
Maybe we will get relief soon, as the 2007 TL now uses the white label 4th generation DVD. The guys over at the TL forum are very active in hacking the NAV to add/change features, and will have to deal with these changes on the new model.
Originally Posted by pimpin-tl
Now I am not sure if anyone thought of this or if it matters. The system in the TL is made by Alpine. But isn't the system in the RL made by Bose?
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