Originally Posted by hondamore

Sorry for the sarcasm, but your Infiniti affinity is getting tiresome - the same point could have been made without mentioning the Infiniti brand name for the 1000th time (this number has been exaggerated for effect).
Anyway, it turns out that I was 100% wrong anyway. I tried my RL key fob with coins and keys all around it and it worked fine. The RFID that the key fob uses is much more powerful than the RFID transponders that I have experience with and the key fob can power through a lot of interferring material. My new theory is that something was pushing one of the buttons on the key fob when I was trying to start the car which caused the RFID to be momentarily stopped, which is why the car wouldn't recognize the key. When I shifted around to turn the knob again, whatever was pushing on the key fob button moved and the car started normally. I have reproduced this problem repeatedly by pushing one of the buttons on the key fob when inside the car and the ignition knob will not turn. This does not absolve Honda of all culpability in this, as perhaps the key fob must be redesigned to make the buttons harder to push when in someone's pocket. That said, how is a car maker supposed to predict the contents of every single drivers pockets and what may or may not accidentally depress the buttons??
Several of the "problems" that have arisen with the RL are eventually proven to be the fault of the owner/driver or other issues NOT related to the actual car. For example, drivers forgetting to turn the ignition knob all the way has been attributed with batteries running dead. This is not a fault of the car but the driver as warning chimes and lights should be adequate to remind the driver to turn the car off when leaving. That said, I am sure that Honda is probably looking to change their system anyway to make even more difficult for this to happen.
A second example of a "problem" that turned out to be nothing, is the accessory power outlet beside the gear shift knob. Many owners complained that their power outlet was "sticky" and "faulty" because it didn't pop up fully when pushed. It turned out that the outlet was deliberately designed this way so that it couldn't be accidentally opened - a safety measure required by the fact that a child could place their fingers inside the opened power outlet and potentially be injured.
You can take the approach that everything that doesn't work perfectly with the RL is automatically a design flaw (something that Infiniti apparently never has), but I take a more scientific approach and try to determine the actual reason for the problem and give the brilliant engineers at Honda the benefit of the doubt. With as much new technology as the RL is blessed with, every owner should have expected some minor issues and be willing to accept that there is a learning curve associated with using these wonderful features.

Originally Posted by mrdeeno

since I am in the same boat as msu79gt82 (undecided between the RL and m45), I will put in my 2 cents.


instead of helping me with the info that may sway my decision one way or another, these types of posts are just a waste of bandwidth and server space.
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