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Old 10-15-2007, 08:49 AM
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U. S. News says RL is #6

Not bad for a car that is headed for redesign.


http://usnews.rankingsandreviews.com...ry-Large-Cars/
Old 10-15-2007, 09:15 AM
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It says reliability is 7.3 for the RL and 7.3 for the MB, hahahahahha, that is funny.

So much for their opinion.
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Not bad at all. No complaints here. It's obvious that everywhere you look, the 5 series is the king, and that's reflected in that I see them everywhere. Not so the elusive RL.
Old 10-15-2007, 09:42 AM
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That ranking pretty much captures my personal view as well. Although I think the RL is a better car than a few higher ranked entries. I would assume branding played into that determination and I can easily see why the RL placed where it did.
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I see RLs all the time, but then I work 1/2 mile from a Dealer.

I also work 1 mile from the BMW dealer, so I also see lots of those, but usually on a flatbed.
Old 10-15-2007, 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by lumpulus
I see RLs all the time, but then I work 1/2 mile from a Dealer.

I also work 1 mile from the BMW dealer, so I also see lots of those, but usually on a flatbed.
Are you 3/4th of a mile from a Lamborghini dealer?
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Originally Posted by neuronbob
Not bad at all. No complaints here. It's obvious that everywhere you look, the 5 series is the king, and that's reflected in that I see them everywhere. Not so the elusive RL.
The part to remember here is there is really only one model of the 5 series that is comparable to the RL and that is the 535xi.

The 528xi is an under powered joke. Just because they cost as much (or more) than an RL doesn't make them competitors.

There are 5 versions of the 5 series sedan (not counting the M5), with 3 different engine options. The majority of the 5 series sold are the rear drive 528 (or in the past 525).

Any one who buys a 528 over an RL is buying the BMW rondelle to make up for other deficiencies in their life or to impress the neighbors.
Old 10-15-2007, 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by black label
The part to remember here is there is really only one model of the 5 series that is comparable to the RL and that is the 535xi.

The 528xi is an under powered joke. Just because they cost as much (or more) than an RL doesn't make them competitors.

There are 5 versions of the 5 series sedan (not counting the M5), with 3 different engine options. The majority of the 5 series sold are the rear drive 528 (or in the past 525).

Any one who buys a 528 over an RL is buying the BMW rondelle to make up for other deficiencies in their life or to impress the neighbors.
+ 1. that is true.
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+2 LOL!

If you're gonna buy a 5-series, at LEAST buy the 535. That's what I'd do....
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The RL is only .2points better than a DTS? Not something to brag about.
Old 10-15-2007, 03:24 PM
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I subscribe to US news, sadly, they only mentioned the top 3 in each category in the actual mag.
Old 10-15-2007, 05:11 PM
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Rl V.S DTS

Originally Posted by ssim3
The RL is only .2points better than a DTS? Not something to brag about.
Compare every category: RL>DTS

2007 Acura RL
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MSRP:$45,780 - $53,200
Invoice:$41,028 - $47,667
MPG:18 City / 26 Hwy
Performance8.5
Exterior7.3
Interior8.5
Safety9.2
Reliability7.3
8.5

2007 Cadillac DTS
Read Full Review
MSRP:$41,525 - $48,895
Invoice:$38,826 - $45,717
MPG:17 City / 25 Hwy
Performance7.9
Exterior7.8
Interior8.2
Safety7.7
Reliability6.8
8.3 Very Good
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The TL came in #3 for its division in the same survey. Go TL!

http://usnews.rankingsandreviews.com...-Midsize-Cars/
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In a recent survey of cars in my garage, for sedans, the RL was #1 and in the SUV category, the MDX won by a landslide.

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Where is the MDX

Great stable LL, but where is the MDX in the pull down bar,

HOME CL RL TL TSX RDX OFF TOPIC (MDX???)

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Originally Posted by Thumper
Great stable LL, but where is the MDX in the pull down bar
The feeling is that the MDX is covered sufficiently HERE.

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Originally Posted by lland
The feeling is that the MDX is covered sufficiently HERE.

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Yup, that is exactly the feeling of the current management. The decision was made above my pay grade.
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[QUOTE=Thumper]Great stable LL, but where is the MDX in the pull down bar,

HOME CL RL TL TSX RDX OFF TOPIC (MDX???)

The MDX was 3rd in the survey; http://usnews.rankingsandreviews.com...-Midsize-SUVs/

The RDX was 1st: http://usnews.rankingsandreviews.com...-Compact-SUVs/

I'd say not bad for a company (Acura) that many detractors are writing off for dead.

TSX #2, TL #3, RL #6, MDX #3, RSX #1

Overall Honda cleaned house:
Honda pilot, odyssey, civic, CRV, and accord all #1 in their respective categories.
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Originally Posted by Thumper
Great stable LL, but where is the MDX in the pull down bar,

HOME CL RL TL TSX RDX OFF TOPIC (MDX???)


The MDX was 3rd in the survey; http://usnews.rankingsandreviews.com...-Midsize-SUVs/

The RDX was 1st: http://usnews.rankingsandreviews.com...-Compact-SUVs/

I'd say not bad for a company (Acura) that many detractors are writing off for dead.

TSX #2, TL #3, RL #6, MDX #3, RDX #1

Overall Honda cleaned house:
Honda pilot, odyssey, civic, CRV, and accord all #1 in their respective categories.
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Originally Posted by JAB00
The RDX was 1st:
Gee, the only reason I have an RL is that when I went to the dealer with every intention of buying an RDX, I didn't like it.

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Gee, the only reason I have an RL is that when I went to the dealer with every intention of buying an RDX, I didn't like it.

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The ride in a RL and the ride in a RDX are basically opposite ends of the Acura ride spectrum.
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Originally Posted by black label

Any one who buys a 528 over an RL is buying the BMW rondelle to make up for other deficiencies in their life or to impress the neighbors.
My neighbor has a 528. His wife wanted a BMW 5-series so he got her the "cheap" one figuring she wouldn't know the difference.
Old 10-16-2007, 07:58 PM
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Im sure that once the reliability score for the 5 series gets factored in, the rating will drop...

Then again, who buys a new BMW anymore? With their great lease rates and maintenance plan, makes more sense to lease one.
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We may complain about what acura is doing along with honda and how some things are lacking, but if you look in the categories in which honda has vehicles, it was in the top 10...
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Saw that...I was puzzled by the weak 7.3 for Exterior (the RL is waaaay better looking than the ubiquitous Bangle-butt Beemer) and 7.3 for Reliability (were they thinking of the '05 RL???). Not to mention the lowish 9.2 for Safety when we are talking about 5-star crash test results all the way around plus SH-AWD. If those numbers were corrected to reflect the truth, current RLs would be #1. But then we'd have to pay more...
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on the surface, the rating seems good and appropriate for the RL.....that being said....I take issue on several points...in light of the new survey released on serviceablility. The Acura should be near the highest of the group especially with the CR rating that was released a few days later.

Next point, exterior the RL has a sleek extradordinary body, who thinks the competators look any better. The BMW is unique and equally exciting...The MB is truely CLASSIC....The M35/45 looks plain and ordinary (like its actually ugly to me)

I do agree with a less than perfect rating of the RL safety. While the RL has lots of body rigidity, it lacks rear side air bags and knee bolsters. Add those two items and tell me why it shouldn't get a perfect 10.

The RL is a one of the biggest marketing disasters ever...you've have to go back to the Edsel to find a bigger disaster
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Originally Posted by AsianTL
Compare every category: RL>DTS

2007 Acura RL
Read Full Review
MSRP:$45,780 - $53,200
Invoice:$41,028 - $47,667
MPG:18 City / 26 Hwy
Performance8.5
Exterior7.3
Interior8.5
Safety9.2
Reliability7.3
8.5

2007 Cadillac DTS
Read Full Review
MSRP:$41,525 - $48,895
Invoice:$38,826 - $45,717
MPG:17 City / 25 Hwy
Performance7.9
Exterior7.8
Interior8.2
Safety7.7
Reliability6.8
8.3 Very Good
I thought he was talking about a 7.1 DTS sound system
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I'm okay with our car being #6. It's a great car and I'm sure that all of us owners feel the same way.

I don't think we have the best looking car- I do love the BMWs, but to each his own. I wouldn't want to have to deal with all the maintenance issues the BMWs have.
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