SH-AWD vs. Quattro vs. 4Matic vs. X-drive vs. ATTESSA
12-11-2005, 11:42 PM
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RL in snow and hills.
I agree with the great handling of the RL on dry pavement but I bought the car for the snow as I go up to Mammoth Mountain about 7-10 times each ski season. Last winter we had tons of snow and I had several opportunities to drive the car in 1-2 feet of snow and up and down steep hills.
I could not believe how well the car negotiated the snow and hills. I never got stuck (but did have to manoeuver around stranded cars) and the car drove straight as an arrow when accelerating in those adverse condtions.....and all that on the stock 17" tires (can't imagine how much better the car would have done with the Pilot Sport A/S tires??). Until you have driven this AWD in really adverse snow/hill conditions, it is hard to comment on the way it handles and how it compares to RWD cars with snow tires.
I could not believe how well the car negotiated the snow and hills. I never got stuck (but did have to manoeuver around stranded cars) and the car drove straight as an arrow when accelerating in those adverse condtions.....and all that on the stock 17" tires (can't imagine how much better the car would have done with the Pilot Sport A/S tires??). Until you have driven this AWD in really adverse snow/hill conditions, it is hard to comment on the way it handles and how it compares to RWD cars with snow tires.
12-19-2005, 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Rob L
biker,
why argue about something you have NO EXPERIENCE with?
Also, it is not stupid to bring up AWD use in the rain.
As for the track comparo, as others have said, first just look at the tires involved with both cars. If you dont think tires play a huge role in handling/track times then you have some serious learning to do. Go slap the same rubber on the RL and see how it does...
I just have to chuckle when I read people who have not even driven the RL go on about its AWD system and criticize it. Having come from a very good handling RWD car (Lexus IS300) I can tell you the system in the RL does wonders in the handling department. Hell, even that track test article said the system in the RL made it cut through corners in a great way. Why then act like the system is useless with respect to dry pavement handling?
I would like to see the RL with some good high performance summer rubber on it since the all seasons on it now are known to be conservative in handling.
Why do people feel the need to argue against fact? The fact is the SH-AWD system in the RL is great and gives the car impressive handling.
why argue about something you have NO EXPERIENCE with?
Also, it is not stupid to bring up AWD use in the rain.
As for the track comparo, as others have said, first just look at the tires involved with both cars. If you dont think tires play a huge role in handling/track times then you have some serious learning to do. Go slap the same rubber on the RL and see how it does...
I just have to chuckle when I read people who have not even driven the RL go on about its AWD system and criticize it. Having come from a very good handling RWD car (Lexus IS300) I can tell you the system in the RL does wonders in the handling department. Hell, even that track test article said the system in the RL made it cut through corners in a great way. Why then act like the system is useless with respect to dry pavement handling?
I would like to see the RL with some good high performance summer rubber on it since the all seasons on it now are known to be conservative in handling.
Why do people feel the need to argue against fact? The fact is the SH-AWD system in the RL is great and gives the car impressive handling.
Weight is the enemy.
SH AWD (which I like) adds considerable weight penalties.
A lot of "enthusiasts" want a car they CAN "throw around" a bit.
"Sticking to rails" - while amazing, is not the same FUN as a controlled power slide.
No need to flame me.
12-21-2005, 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by SPUDMTN
ISPUDMTN, who is patiently awaiting an auto mag comparo between midsize-lux AWD sedans (or special feature on the various AWD systems)
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...5/pageId=64900
12-21-2005, 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by CGTSX2004
That's all fine and good, but I would like to see the AWD M35x in a head-to-head comparison against the RL. The M35 has a significant advantage in weight (I think it was over 200+ lbs) which made a huge difference. Cut down that weight advantage with the auto tranny and AWD system and then let's see how the two cars compare. That 2 sec. advantage the M35 had, I think, would disappear.
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12-21-2005, 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by 03TL-S
The m35x and RL were compared in japan. I dont remember where the article is, but the Fuga (m35) outhandled and outaccelerated the legend (RL)
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