thefork

Miles vs Time for 7 year 105K service, on an 08 with 65K miles?

I am moving from St. Louis to Denver next month and was going over all the cars to make sure they were ready for the move and I saw that the 105K service which looks to be uber expensive was 105K or 7 years, and I have an 08 that has never been garaged but its at 65k miles.

Any advice on this?

justnspace

iTrader: (1)

where did you see the 7 year designation????????????????????

if you can find it, you win a cookie and you will have your answer

thefork

That is what the dealer told me.....I didn't double check it....After she said it the 7 year timeframe worked in my mind for average life of belts...but after your post I will investigate further now.

Just looked and it's all by mileage....wow do I feel stupid now....thank you immensely...I fell for that hook line and sinker from the Dealer.....

justnspace

iTrader: (1)

^ahhh, i was just trying to figure out where you got the 7 years from...

the 2nd gen TL 99-2003 had in the owners manual "105k or 7 years"

however, in the 3rd gen TL's manual the "7 years" was removed. it just says "at the 105k, have timing belt serviced"

now, there are extreme conditions that will push the belt to be changed sooner, but unless you live in the desert with extreme temps of 115+ or in the artic with extreme temps of -115, probably no good reason to change it early...unless you want to.

justnspace

iTrader: (1)

I changed mine early at 70k miles ONLY because I had to take the timing belt off for a repair. I killed 2 birds with one stone...changed timing belt and completed repair.

if a friend NEVER over-rev'ed my engine, I would have changed the belt at 105k miles...but alas, the damage was done and I chose to change the belt while the engine was being repaired

TacoBello

The crab. He knows what he speaks.

rlerman

I did mine at 7 years and will do it every 7 years, probably just one more time. I don't trust mileage intervals as belts will deteriorate with age. It's too important of a part to delay, IMO.

justnspace

iTrader: (1)

^its an owners call.
again, I chose to change mine earlier.

thefork

They quoted $1320 for the service, water pump, timing belt, tensioner, drive belts....Is that par for the course or is that steep?

They also want $149 each for a drain and refill for the transmission/transfer case/rear diff

I like to over maintain, but this is pretty expensive, and I wanted the fluids done for sure...

rlerman

All very expensive, check with a Honda dealer. Timing belt at Honda cost me about $800 w/tensioner.

thefork

I didn't know that you could bring an Acura into a Honda dealer, but it makes sense.

oo7spy

If only there were a thousand threads on timing belts we could reference.

upnout

iTrader: (6)

call a few local Honda dealers to get the best price

Turbonut

iTrader: (1)

Beaten to death, but our '04, 94k miles original belt-in service 03/2004
11 years 9 months and going strong.

Boomstick0

I always to it based on the mileage unless the time is drastically over, because usage will wear the belt. However, time does also cause it to deteriorate faster as well.

I will say that I have no doubts that I will be fine waiting until 105k in a year and a half to two years when I hit 105k on my '07. Honda belts usually last a long time (like 15 years and 200k)if you live on the edge, but I would't go nearly that long. If I got the car with only 30k, I'd get it changed well before 105k just because 75k would be put on when it's old.

NBP04TL4ME

I'm at 8 years and 59K on my Type S

titomang

I'm at 37k on my 07 right now. Not looking to change it anytime soon. Will think about it in a couple of years though....

MrKev

105k service is just valve adjustment

Service 4 is valve adjustment and timing belt

If you want, just do the t-belt service just for the peace of mind and hold on valve adjustment till 105k.

TonyCD

The timing belt is rubber, and rubber rots.

There's a reason the factory specified time as well as miles. The Honda V6 is an interference engine. That's a polite way of saying that if the timing belt breaks, the valves will collide and lunch the valvetrain.

Your dime, your call. I changed mine at 7 years, 93,000 miles.

And like 007 said. Thread search is your friend.

cobra10363

I would personally change it at seven years.. As others have stated here of the belt being rubber.. All the tension i'm sure starts to take a toll even if you don't meet the mileage specs.

Then again i'm also one of those that over maintains the car..

deepdezal

Yes-TB is made from rubber, but usually the belt is re-enforced with strands of kevlar or nylon which makes them virtually unstretchable.

I have a 07 with 65k miles. I will wait till 100k or so to change the belt.

oo7spy

I have never heard of an OEM Honda belt that was compromised before 100k. In fact, most stories you hear are from people who pull them off at 120k and say they are stout. I don't buy the 7 year "recommendation". Like justn said, unless you are crossing he Sahara or the Arctic, you'll be fine, and in both cases, you better reconsider the factory oil recommendation.

kevin barbee

Well I got mine done today , 04 TL 73k miles $850 and the guy showed me the old belt, THAT LOOKED NEW😫

SHUJeff281

Did my 08's TB, tensioner, water pump at 8 years/75k of NJ stop and go traffic. My tensioner was fully extended and leaking according to the dealer. After the replacement I felt a noticeable difference in initial throttle response.

Black63

Better safe than sorry on preventative maintenance.

oo7spy

Great insight here. Your belt may be near new, but if your water pump or tensioner is about to go, all bets are off. It is strongly recommended to replace all three for the timing belt service for a reason.

RL09

In my manual, it says to change it at the intervals shown on the maintenance minder.

It's certainly not in the manual, but i think it means the one in the car. I am unable to find the timing belt maintenance minder option. Anyone knows how ti find that option?

The second thing, it says to however replace the belt at 60000 miles (100k km) if one drives regularly above 110F (43 C) or below 20F (-29C).

Which implies the changing time is longer? My mechanic said you change this car's timing belt at 160K km (100k miles). You guys on here are saying to change it at 60k miles.

who to listen to?

Fuchfaccio

160K km (100K miles) is when I did mine. Which is also when my maintenance minder told me to do it. "B4" code came up on MM at 160k. Unless you meet the other temperature criteria, only then would you replace the belt more often... but, even here on the east coast of Canada we don't "regularly" drive in -29C. Matter of fact it's probably pretty rare. And, +43? Here? Fuhgedaboutit. Haha.

oo7spy

RL09, please do a search before starting a new thread. I have merged your thread with a very recent discussion about timing belt intervals.

RL09

i'm in quebec myself. We rarely get -29 but last weekend it was -38 with windchill

My garage is indeed saying it's not 105 it's 160. So the car is programmed to give that message at 160?

I did, you get every thread with the words timing and belt inside and i didn't have time to go through many pages. Will try harder.

oo7spy

Fair enough. FWIW, that is the reason why we encourage people to search and continue similar threads over starting new ones. It puts too much of the same information in too many places, and makes finding what you need nearly impossible. I don't mind merging threads into ones that I remember to be similar as long as the OP at least attempted to find that similar thread.


FYI, (I'm not sure where you searched from) I have found the best search option to be the "search this forum" toolbar just above the threads to the right. Unfortunately, there are a bunch of different ways to search here, and some are almost worthless. I have long considered writing a post explaining the pros and cons of each in a helpful guide.

oo7spy

I think something is getting lost in translation. The timing belt, water pump, tensioner pulley, valve adjustment, and spark plug maintenance is scheduled for 105k miles/160k kilometers. Keep in mind that most members here are silly Americans using the standard system.

RL09

No I think your info could be faulty on this..

The one in eastern Canada i replied to did mean 160k km. My mechanic said 160k km, as well as my acura dealer who showed me two others done that week, both around 160k km. he said mine was due soon.

The manual also clearly states to do it only when the car tells you to, which members said is 160k kms. the manual says to do it at 100k km only if you regularly drive in extreme weather conditions.

RL09

I used the one in the middle right under the black toolbar where its written forum, gallery, members, etc.

oo7spy

There is a disconnect here. 100k MILES = 160k KM. No one every said anything about 100k KM.

Unless you want to know the last time LaFerrari or Katy Perry were discussed in this entire site, that toolbar is useless. It has no filtering capabilities.

NBP04TL4ME

Believe it or not, I typically use Google to search and get directed to Azine when searching for a thread or topic

RL09

yea it works huh.. i used to post on another socio-politico forum. I found google more precise that forum's advanced search section.

RL09

Ur right. I had taken the 105 in the rl09 pictures thread as kms. thanks Mr Bond.

oo7spy

I can see your deleted posts, BTW.

That said, I'm hoping that was sincere, but regardless, I do truly want to help. I know I am capable of being an asshole, and the Internet isn't the easiest place to communicate at times. With that in mind, don't be afraid to object. I'm not the ruthless dictator I make myself out to be.

Congrats on making it to new member and finding the edit button.

RL09

No no i simply realized that the mistake was probably in the other thread. I got another 20k km until change. I was disappointed as a mechanic had told me they are chains. even today i went to ask at a mechanic nearby if they can check the belt's condition, they debated heavily that it's a chain in there. I naturally didn't let them touch the car.

oh don't worry about me


Thanks!