kb1 engine/transmission swaps? anyone done it

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Old Jan 4, 2018 | 03:50 PM
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kb1 engine/transmission swaps? anyone done it

anyone done any kind of swaps into kb1?
engine transmission ecu wiring etc whatever from different years

I'm curious also if anyone done a 6 speed transmission swap into RL from 2010 tl sh-awd manual or even considered it
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Old Jan 4, 2018 | 04:42 PM
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There's a guy that has swapped in a 3.7, never posts here though.

I've more than considered a 6MT swap & it's my goal for this car.
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Old Jan 5, 2018 | 06:07 AM
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Since I got my car and saw that it was only a 5 speed Tranny, I wanted to do a swap. Plus my engine has 275k Miles on it. Still runs great. I haven't come across any affordable donor cars yet though. Also would need a trusted shop. Up until now I do all my work myself still.
I've seen someone on Youtube drop in a 3.7 and tranny from the KB2 in after an accident though.
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Old Jan 5, 2018 | 06:18 AM
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Just looked that up, shame he didn't use the 6spd auto but the 3.7 must be a real nice upgrade for the KB1
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Old Jan 5, 2018 | 06:23 AM
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would love to swap in a 6MT and the ultimate goal would be to turbo, by buying a TIG welder and learning how to weld aluminium piping.
the most expensive part of building the turbo would be the TIG welder
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Old Jan 5, 2018 | 06:30 AM
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I have a mig welder but a tig welder would be next level. See what the year brings..
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Old Jan 5, 2018 | 06:43 AM
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Originally Posted by teh CL
I have a mig welder but a tig welder would be next level. See what the year brings..
I've never taken a shop class, EVER.
I've been researching and learning all that I can. A MIG welder CAN do aluminium, but just gotta watch the heat! welds probably would look like chit, but it's doable!

my intentions are to JUST do the turbo fabrication, and any skills i learn is just a bonus!
thus why i want to start out with a TIG right away! lol

2018 isnt in the cards for me, like I mentioned in another thread, i just need to commit.
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Old Jan 5, 2018 | 07:17 AM
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Isn't the 3.7 just a bored out version of the 3.5 which is a bored out version of the 3.2? just different ecu? Wonder what other differences there are? Might be easier to Rebuild and bore out the engine we have and swap the tranny and computer?
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Old Jan 5, 2018 | 07:29 AM
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It's more than just the bore. Bigger crank, different heads/cams, injectors, intake manifold etc etc.

Definitely would be cheaper to source a 3.7 over rebuilding the motor.
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Old Jan 5, 2018 | 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by teh CL
Just looked that up, shame he didn't use the 6spd auto but the 3.7 must be a real nice upgrade for the KB1
3.7 burns oil...
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Old Jan 5, 2018 | 09:48 AM
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I can live with topping oil once a week if it's even that bad
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Old Jan 5, 2018 | 12:26 PM
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from what I understand the 2008 and above use same can bus standard so it should be an easy swap if you want to swap a 6 speed tranny
I would assume you can use the TL sh-awd ecu if you have the 2008-up RL since they both use 3.7L
for the 2005 specifically you would probably have to do some wiring because its k-line ecu

but I don't see why its not possible now the cars are getting to the good price range where more people can afford the parts and cars also

I cant even imagine the trolling level from driving a stock looking RL with a built motor and 6 speed tranny
since the tl sh-awd also has ktuner available

for now I'm just working on my pcm flash setup lol
I got the kit but kinda realized that I relaly have nothing to tune yet since I have no upgrades on the car ... yeah
btw if anyone has old cats let me know ill pay for shipping. just need the flanges so I can weld the pipes to them once I get the heads for it then its a go
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Old Jan 5, 2018 | 02:16 PM
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09+ use the 3.7 so we're not confusing ppl.

The swap would be a lot easier for the KB2 guys, that's for sure.

If you want flanges, you can buy them from P2R.

As for trolling ppl in the RL.. That's exactly what I'm going for
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Old Jan 6, 2018 | 12:29 PM
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no I mean flanges as in stock exhaust flange so I can cut off the cat and weld a pipe
I don't have 300 bucks to spend on the cat deletes now after buying the tuning kit
plus I have another baby s2k that needs wheels and other "necessities"
having 2 race cars is tough
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Old Jan 6, 2018 | 12:40 PM
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I'm talking about the stock exhaust flanges off the heads..
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Old Jan 7, 2018 | 05:01 PM
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ya those. but the ones you mentioned are just flanges. i mean the stock cat assemblies with flanges
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Old Jan 7, 2018 | 05:51 PM
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That makes more sense, you want that cast piece attached to the flange.

I have a set of old precats off the TL I just bought that I could cut the cats off & send you the piece your looking for. Where are you located?
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Old Jan 8, 2018 | 11:18 AM
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Manual trans swap has been talked about for the longest time, we are all waiting on someone to commit. I would do it in a heartbeat if I had the resources. In the meantime, check out what this guy did, lots of great info:

Acura RL Auto to Manual Conversion J35a8
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Old Jan 8, 2018 | 03:07 PM
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hmm. interesting
i would look for a donor tl sh-awd and literally swap everything i can from tl lol
which would make some people ask why not just buy a TL
answer: same reason people swap k series in mr2 or any other swap done

rant below:
because honda doesnt care about us like nissan. they dont support any kind of racing besides official mugel or spoon or whatever the honda japanese teams are
nissan and some other manufacturers do. but not honda. they completley turn away from its loyal fans, then wonder why sales are so low...
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Old Jan 8, 2018 | 04:46 PM
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not to discourage anyone doing the swap but wouldn't more easier if you buying a 4g TL MT and call it a day? MT along with motor that rated more power than the KB2 3.7 and weight less along with small refinement that KB2 lacks.
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Old Jan 8, 2018 | 05:10 PM
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The RL is so much sexier looking then the 4G TL..

If that's not motivation, I don't know what is..
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Old Jan 8, 2018 | 05:36 PM
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indeed rl is a tank

tl is more of a jeep

RL with a 6 speed sh-awd built 3.5 liter with full vtec heads with 8000-9000rpm redline is an ultimate troll machine

now that we know rl can be reflashed for NA
and tl has ktuner option. only thing in the way is sourcing the parts lol
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Old Jan 8, 2018 | 05:56 PM
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While a NA screaming RL would be ridiculous, the RL needs boost to really hurt feelings. An NA setup would only take you so far considering the car still weighs 4k lbs.

Originally Posted by RL_Coastin
Manual trans swap has been talked about for the longest time, we are all waiting on someone to commit. I would do it in a heartbeat if I had the resources. In the meantime, check out what this guy did, lots of great info:

Acura RL Auto to Manual Conversion J35a8
Crazy swap that guy pulled off. I haven't checked in on it for some time but last I checked he was trying to get the SH-AWD controlled by a standalone ECU..
Originally Posted by truonghthe
not to discourage anyone doing the swap but wouldn't more easier if you buying a 4g TL MT and call it a day? MT along with motor that rated more power than the KB2 3.7 and weight less along with small refinement that KB2 lacks.


Of course it would be easier but where's the fun in that? At the end of the day, the TL is newer, has a bigger motor & is a bit lighter but.....it's still not the RL, I'm sure you know exactly what I mean. The 3.7 can also be swapped over easily if you can find one for a decent price & don't forget the RL has the most aggressive SH-AWD configuration out of all the SH-AWD vehicles. :wink:
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Old Jan 9, 2018 | 01:59 PM
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I think with right parts and some weight reduction you can get RL into 13s with all motor
of course you might lose some convenience features... but it would be totally worth it for me
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Old Jan 9, 2018 | 05:57 PM
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Low 13s with all motor would be interesting.
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Old Jan 9, 2018 | 06:12 PM
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Would definitely be something, that's for sure..
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Old Jan 9, 2018 | 09:42 PM
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well i mean the tl ah-awd is already rated at 13.7 for stock 6 speed. with curb weight of roughly 3900 lbs


RL is 4100 lbs 200 lbs less and with the 6 spd tl swap it should do same times.
and with a few upgrades and a tune probably even better times
spare tire
engine plastics
floor mats
all the vibration dampeners throughout the car probably add up to about 50lbs
headers and exhaust with all the shields and mufflers
16 lb wheels instead of 26-30lb
sound system probably weighs about 50 lbs lol
the bottlebeck for stereo system is finding the climate control that works in this car
but chinese people been making aftermarket climate controls for accord and tsx. im sure with enough demand they can fab up a climate control that works for RL also
but that again comes down to people actually asking fro it. since we already know the general attitute here is" whats the point, nothing is gonna happen anyway" its safe to assume that people will just accept the faith and not even try.
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