vp911

How much would you pay for a new 2006 RL with tech?

As everybody knows...the IS is awful in the snow so I've come back to the dark side and considering picking up an RL. The dealer has two 2006 RLs, one a demo (which they want 45 with wheels and such, probably has a few thousand miles) and another new 2006 with tech. I would take the new if anything............. yes, CGTSX, I am crazy.

Touge

What part of the country are you in ?. I think the region seems to affect the price on the RL quite a bit. West coast people seem to get about 2k lower than east coast buyers.

vp911

Michigan

phins2rt

Given the $4K incentive is still on and this is a year old car (depreciation). I would think around $40K for the new tech. I almost bought an 06 RL(non-tech) in Jan for 40K in Wisconsin. Good luck.

vp911

That makes it even more tempting.... the only problem is they put a pinstripe on the car and it looks awful. There are a few upgrades which they are trying to charge crazy amounts for, so they will either need to be taken off or dropped off the car.

I'll have to drive it again. I haven't driven it in a few months - and I do know it won't be as fun to drive as the IS, but I won't go spinning around the streets in the snow.

neuronbob

Hey, that's my line!

There are a few more modders here than the last time you bought an RL, maybe you'll join the "Over 300 HP Club" (as Touge has called us). You COULD make the RL more entertaining with some mods--nowhere near the smaller IS, mind you, but you could have two fun cars to drive.

The dealer wants $45k for last year's demo with several k miles on it? When they were selling brand new 2006's for 42-45k in our neck of the woods (Midwest)? They are smoking crack. You should be able to get that for $40k, maybe less.

vp911

Nah, I won't do any modding ...so I say now. I actually would want the chrome 18" wheels. I love those wheels, but I'm not sure about those with the tires on the tech package. Don't really know what the runflats require.

Let me clarify...

There are two, the demo (black) without tech package (keeping in mind the 06' models base included navi, and tech was the cmbs/pax). It has the 18" wood wheel/shifter and pinstripe for $45 - they list the retail as $55. It probably has a good amount of miles on it.

The other, blue with tech package (cmbs/pax) is asking $45. I couldn't really tell what they added to it.

If I go there, I'll be after the blue one. So, I should pay roughly $40 for it with or without anything else?

I took a look at the GS350 AWD, but for the price, the RL kills it. The G35x is OK, but the interior really didn't impress me, albeit, better than the previous interior which was awful.



I have been considering the MDX sport, but I'm pretty sure I'll be much happier with the RL. I do prefer sedans over SUVs.

neuronbob

The one with tech is clearly the better deal even at $45k. I am willing to bet that with the marketing incentive, that you CAN get it down to $41-42k or so.

The other one.....non-tech with pinstripe and wood steering wheel ($500 installed) and wood shift knob ($100 tops installed) for $45k? What kind of crack are they smoking? Retailing at $55k? I call $40k or a bit less on that one, especially if it has several k miles on it.

vp911

The sales manager at that acura dealer is probably on something... we hate each other, perhaps he will be cool and sell me the car for a decent price.

It has to have been on the lot for a while, so I'll walk in tomorrow sometime and see what they say. I don't have a problem walking away from it.

Chas2

If you are not going to do any modding, I would say the blue 45K tech pack is the way to go. The PAX wheel tire combo acutally feels as if it rides and handles better, seems quieter and the ACC makes life so much easier. I got mine in VA for just over $42K with 8 miles on it at the end of November. I feel as if I got a very good deal. You should be able to do better now in April. They have been paying for that car for some time and should want to cut their losses, IMHO.

vp911

I wonder how those tires perform in the snow?

You got $42k for the same care in Nov?

VOdoc

I bought a 2006 Tech (CMBS/PAX) in L.A. in December. I was actually planning to get a 2006 base (Navi) model but couldn't get a decent trade until after those were pretty much gone.

They sold at dead cost. The only add-on was splashguards. Dealer cost, and my price, was $42,475. I got all of the $4K incentive and all of the 3% holdback. They gave me $20,600 for my cherry 2004 base TL with 43,500 miles--that's $1100 more than my regular dealer offered and $600 more than CarMax would pay. If you can get that 2006 Tech RL in the mid-$42s, the dealer will not be making a dime.

I love the ACC and the CMBS--the RL is so smooth, quiet and serene that you will find yourself spacing out, grooving to the XM tunes, while you fly right up someone's tailpipe at 75 mph. Or some joker will slam on the brakes in stop and go traffic while you're 10 feet back and not totally tuned in. The CMBS will prevent most adverse events in these situations. Well worth the extra dough.

No complaints about PAX tires with 5,000 miles so far either. I like the ride just fine.

If you're not planning to mod the car (other than the excellent all-weather mats), the Tech seems the way to go. Best of luck.

sab35263

Dude for an 06 right now you should not pay a penny over $38K with tech. I bought a tech back in Dec for $42.9k. The dealer actually had a tech for $38K but I did not like the color. I missed up ebcuase I could've saved $4K right away but I'm happy with the color I choose. So yeah man I think the dealer will discount the 06 like crazy to get rid of them. I think you have a great chance ti get a really good deal on that 06 new with mods.

lland

The only issue I see here is that if the cars have been sitting on the lot for months, the dealer may have a fair amount of money tied up in his floor plan financing the vehicle in inventlry and may want to recover some, if not all of it.

Still, for an '06 Tech with no "add-ons," $42k or so is probably the higer end of what you should pay.
LL

vp911

I just had a great laugh. I called one of the other dealers, they have a demo 06' RL with almost 10k miles, no pax/radar, etc. Base 06, nav. He wants $44,xxx for it! He has lost his mind.

What would you pay for a car like that? I'd say no more tahn $35...

Touge

I agree with sab, I think 38k would be a fair price for a new 06 w/ tech.

vp911

The third Acura dealer has the RL w/tech and 5300 miles. He said they absolutely will not go below $43. I told him good luck with that

Benush

I know the withdrwal symptoms -- once you've had an RL you can never go back!

Anyway I went to nadaguides.com and a used 06 with 1000 miles has a trade-in of $37,200 and retail of $41,900. The one with 5000 miles that they refuse to take less than $44k is the same values. They want $2k more than retail for a car they can't move off their lot???

So take those numbers in see what they have to say. If you want to give them visual aids just go to www.nadaguides.com and follow the prompts, print it out and hand them the 'real' story.

Frankly, the price of an 07 is low enough and I like the goodies that come with it. I never had the backup camera and when I drove an 07 with it; it was fun (though the old fart in me will probably install the sensors too - belt and suspenders!!)

Regarding the PAX stuff, that was one of my big worries since Detroit snow is probably as bad as Montana snow but there are supposed to be "ICE-X" or something like that which are winter specific PAX tires (though they still cost a bundle!). I'm probably still going to avoid the PAX since I'll want to put studded snow tires on for the winter, but at least now we know that there is something for winter use.

Oh, and a final word of advice that CL6 may take exception to but in this case it may we warranted. If the General Manager won't sell the car for a reasonalble price then go find out the name of the owner and send him/her a quick little note about how you tried to get a decent deal for a car that's been on the lot for at least half a year but no one including the Sales Manage would budge. In the past I've bought my Hondas and Acuras from the Fleet Manager, General Manager and Dealership co-owner. They all understand the true bottom line.

Good luck and go get that RL!!!

Benush

The non-PAX CBMS was $40,900 retail and $36,250 trade- in

vp911

nadaguides (for another 06' demo) with 6500 miles:

Trade in - 37,300 / Retail - 42,025


What should I aim for?

vp911

They won't go a dime below 44k on that one. I won't be buying the RL

synth19

As far as the pin stiping goes, are you sure it's not a sticker (easily removable).

neuronbob

You have GOT to be kidding. Well, it looks like that dealer will be paying for that car for much longer, and will be wondering why it's still sitting on the lot in June, halfway through the next model year. Either that, or it'll sell for $44k to some unsuspecting dude/ette who didn't bother to do their research.

vp911

I talked to a dealer in cali who is offering a new RL for 43k

vp911

dealer in Chicago didn't hesitate to offer RL for 42,500.

now deciding between MDX and RL.....what to do...

noobie

Is that for a 07 Tech with CMBS and PAX? That's a good deal.

$44K for that 06 is like smoking dope. Tough call. The thought of foregoing the RL and upgrading the MDX has crossed my mind as well.

Infamous425

get the mdx

VOdoc

My :

An SUV, any SUV, is just a truck that is trying to be a car...or is it a car that is trying to be a truck? Guess it depends on whether it's frame vs. monobody construction. My experience with two of them as an owner, and gazillions of them as fellow inhabitants of the mean streets, is that they don't really succeed at either.

OTOH, the MDX is getting pretty refined and is much less likely to kill you in a rollover than, say, an Escalade. Seriously, occupant injury and death rates for SUVs overall are horrifying. People buy them to be "safe"--NOT.

Pretty as the new MDX is, you couldn't pay me to drive one 'cuz I'm a car guy through and through. SH-AWD is the secret weapon for all-weather performance dude...RL all the way.

vp911

Its an 07' Tech, no CMBS/PAX. I don't really want CMBS/PAX anyways.

vp911

We have been considering replacing the RX330 (Lexus volunteered to repurchase) with an MDX tech, so I suppose an RL would make sense. I'd still much rather have the 06' RL.

A dealer in California I spoke to said they had an 06' RL black/black brought back to them becuase the loan on the car fell through. 400 miles. He is going to call me tomorrow with a deal on it. I really don't like black, but I may take it if he is willing to give me a steal on it.

sleepyone

Bought my 2006 RL last November no tech pkg but had rear camera, spoiler, chrome wheels & a 7 year extended warranty. Sticker was $53400.00 I paid 43700 plus tax & license. Have a friend who works at the dealership who showed me invoice which doesn't mean squat, just somewhere to start from. Believe me @ just over 48K out the door for a car that stickered just under 54k, they made plenty of $$$$. normally I do not purchase extended warranties but I like this car so much I plan on keeping it for many years.

vp911

A local dealer has offered me a new 07' RL for 42k with tech.

I spoke to somebody from a california dealer yesterday who told me not to get the PAX/CMBS. He claimed if a tire blew out, you had to replace the rim as well for $1,000. Is this true?

neuronbob

OK, now we're talking realistic deals. That's not a bad price.

vp911

One of the AZ members PMd me asking why 06 vs 07. Honestly, onstar. After the TL accident, I have a much higher appreciation for having the comfort of onstar.....

dadcat1

According to the Michelin PAX website what the dealer said is not true. The wheel assembly only needs replacement if it is damaged. The following link has the FAQs about PAX:
http://www.michelinman.com/differenc...ystem_faq.html

andrewgg2

VIP,

Welcome back!

I would not get RL with the PAX/CMBS tech package. Last I have heard, the bolt patter is different on the tech package RL's, so this will limit your wheels selections very much. (A-SPEC etc wheels will not fit on the tech package). As we all know the stock wheels sucks on the RL. It makes the car luck very boring! I personally went with the A-Spec wheel gun metal finish and body kit. Can't be happier. It changes the whole appearance of the car.

vp911

Indeed, the a-spec wheels are awesome. I loved them on my RL.

I did drive the 07' RL and MDX (sport) today. I guess I have gotten used to the sporty drive of the IS and am now having second thoughts. I do want an AWD car as the IS is not sufficient for the winters. I'm going to review the other options (G35x, M35x, 328xi, GS350 and A6) then come back and look at the RL. I have a feeling the RL will be good with the a-spec suspension and the 18" wheels.

andrewgg2

Let me save you some time.......RL it is.....

G35x - you will hate the interior compared to RL

M35X - just very ugly looking,

GS350 - nice looking Maxima

no comment about 328 & A6, as we all know their problems.

I have my RL now for almost 2 years, putting the A-Spec wheel and kit totally changed the car. I also love driving my RL in snow. (of course with snow tires) awesome! How about the IS 250, I think it has AWD?

vp911

^^ Same things I've been telling people for two years and here I am acting like them.

Agreed on the G35, I didn't really like the interior (albeit MUCH improved from the previous generation)
M35x - I love the interior except the orange lights
GS350 - True.
328 and A6... yeah yeah yeah.

The RL is where I am leaning and to adding the 18"s with the suspension... I do think it will make a world of difference.

IS250 - TOO slow.

Immediate reaction when driving RL after having the IS350 for a year, steering wheel isn't "fat" enough - and yes - slower than the IS, but I have to give up something somewhere to have AWD.

andrewgg2

It will be a change from IS350, as the puppy is very fast. Let us know what you decide. My bro. just sold his TL for TL-S, and he loves the car. Very fast! But no AWD. He keeps saying that his old TL was good in snow with snow tires.
I really like the exhaust in the TL-S, very nice. He almost went with MDX, but he just could not do it. Good luck!