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Old Sep 28, 2006 | 10:49 PM
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I got pulled over by the police tonight because I forgot to turn on my headlights at night (previous vehicle had daytime running lights). So my question: is there a way to activate daytime running lights on the RL? Is there a chime or other obvious indicator that you've left the lights on when exiting the vehicle? Thanks.

PS--Police officer was very nice and gently reminded me of the need to turn on the lights. Geez!
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Old Sep 28, 2006 | 11:16 PM
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Yeah, turn the switch to 'AUTO'. That will automatically turn the lights on and off depending on the light level.

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I got pulled over by the police tonight because I forgot to turn on my headlights at night (previous vehicle had daytime running lights). So my question: is there a way to activate daytime running lights on the RL? Is there a chime or other obvious indicator that you've left the lights on when exiting the vehicle? Thanks.

PS--Police officer was very nice and gently reminded me of the need to turn on the lights. Geez!
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Old Sep 29, 2006 | 04:57 AM
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Thanks very much, gbriank--much appreciated!!
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Old Sep 29, 2006 | 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Courage
So my question: is there a way to activate daytime running lights on the RL?
Are you in Canada? In the states, the RL does have DRL's. (And lots of people try to find ways to turn them OFF! )
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Old Sep 29, 2006 | 09:33 AM
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Are you in Canada? In the states, the RL does have DRL's. (And lots of people try to find ways to turn them OFF! )
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amazingly, you can disable the DRL's on the canadian model, but not on the american model.
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Old Sep 29, 2006 | 10:41 AM
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Dang, I was hoping to find a way to turn the DRLs off.

Those Canadians have it pretty good with their RL.....ventilated seats....turning off DRL....they just have to pay those inflated costs to get that.
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Old Sep 29, 2006 | 07:22 PM
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Pull the fuse. If I remember correctly, the DRLs are on their own fuse. Sadly (if i'm guessing), you'll get some corny message on the console requesting somesort of service.... :-)

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amazingly, you can disable the DRL's on the canadian model, but not on the american model.
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Old Sep 29, 2006 | 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by gbriank
Pull the fuse. If I remember correctly, the DRLs are on their own fuse. Sadly (if i'm guessing), you'll get some corny message on the console requesting somesort of service.... :-)
nope, you will get service message that you cant disable.
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Old Sep 30, 2006 | 01:59 AM
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go figure....

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nope, you will get service message that you cant disable.
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Old Sep 30, 2006 | 09:48 AM
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I can't understand why anyone would want to disable their DRLs... a very good safety feature!

BTW, has anyone in Canada got any info on October incentives for '06 RLs?
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Old Sep 30, 2006 | 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Deak69
I can't understand why anyone would want to disable their DRLs... a very good safety feature!

BTW, has anyone in Canada got any info on October incentives for '06 RLs?
Because there are SOME conditions where you need to drive without lights on, so that means when you turn off your headlights, you dont want any lights on.
Besides... its not mandatory to have DRL's on in the USA, therefore I want to have the choice if my lights are on or off.
Freedom, its more than just a word.
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Old Sep 30, 2006 | 12:59 PM
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[QUOTE=Deak69]I can't understand why anyone would want to disable their DRLs... a very good safety feature!QUOTE]

Too much nannyism for me but I'm not going to bother to shut them off. I just don't like them. I doubt it adds much safety.
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Old Sep 30, 2006 | 01:03 PM
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Interesting as I can't think of a situation or condition where you need to drive without lights--unless you're involved in some branches of law enforcement I suppose.

To answer Mike's question, I'm in the states.
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Old Sep 30, 2006 | 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Courage
Interesting as I can't think of a situation or condition where you need to drive without lights--unless you're involved in some branches of law enforcement I suppose.

To answer Mike's question, I'm in the states.
ever try to go to a location where people congragate for moonlit nights?
ever try to sneak up on your loved one with a surprise at night... and your damn DRL's give you away?
ever think that?
thats just a few that dont involve law enforcement, or breaking the law.
not everything has a sinister motive.
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Old Oct 1, 2006 | 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by sotiri
ever try to go to a location where people congragate for moonlit nights?
ever try to sneak up on your loved one with a surprise at night... and your damn DRL's give you away?
ever think that?
thats just a few that dont involve law enforcement, or breaking the law.
not everything has a sinister motive.


Just push the emergency brake down 1 click.

Other than that I always want to have the extra safety of DRL's. Just watch cars in the shadows of a twisty raod and you will see a huge difference in DRL and non-DRL cars. Anything that gives an edge in visibility is a good deal to me.
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Old Oct 1, 2006 | 08:32 AM
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Just push the emergency brake down 1 click.

Other than that I always want to have the extra safety of DRL's. Just watch cars in the shadows of a twisty raod and you will see a huge difference in DRL and non-DRL cars. Anything that gives an edge in visibility is a good deal to me.
oh, and then guess what... if you drive a couple of minutes, the ABS system will throw a code, and thats assuming that one click does not actually engage the brake pad to touch the rotor.
The point is, just about every other car will allow you to somehow disable the DRL without a nag screen or some other mickey mouse hack.
And lastly, from viewing the schematics, you CAN disable the DRL on the canadian version without any problems with nag screens- which Canada has DRL laws, and yet on the American model, you cant and we dont have a national DRL law here.
go figure!
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Old Oct 1, 2006 | 08:41 AM
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oh, and then guess what... if you drive a couple of minutes, the ABS system will throw a code, and thats assuming that one click does not actually engage the brake pad to touch the rotor.
The point is, just about every other car will allow you to somehow disable the DRL without a nag screen or some other mickey mouse hack.
And lastly, from viewing the schematics, you CAN disable the DRL on the canadian version without any problems with nag screens- which Canada has DRL laws, and yet on the American model, you cant and we dont have a national DRL law here.
go figure!

If 1 click drags the pads you are going to have a very real problem on very cold days. In other words there better be a a lot more "slop" in the cable than one click will take up.

We drove up on a field of deer and I disabled the DRL with 1 click. Not sure how long that took but didn't see any codes other than the brake indicator. Again, don't know why anybody would want to turn the DRL's off for any period of time. Why defeat a safety feature?
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Old Oct 1, 2006 | 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Rich in NC
Again, don't know why anybody would want to turn the DRL's off for any period of time. Why defeat a safety feature?
I'm of course not answering for everybody, but a lot of people don't like DRL's because they feel they look cheesy. After all, lots of entry-level cars come with them, and many view them as a feature for people who need all the help they can get ... kinda "lowest common denominator" safety feature. Just telling you what I've heard and read in forums.

As for the safety angle, there probably is some degree of that with DRL's, but I did see a study awhile back that said their effectiveness has diminished dramatically as they have become more commonplace. Seems people learn not to see those as effectively as they otherwise fail to see 4,000lb chunks of metal, glass and plastic hurtling at them, and the incidence of accidents of cars with DRL's has almost come to equal that of non-DRL cars.
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Old Oct 1, 2006 | 09:54 AM
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sotiri - there is a drl relay located under the driver's side dashboard, perhaps disconnecting that would work ?.
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Old Oct 1, 2006 | 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Touge
sotiri - there is a drl relay located under the driver's side dashboard, perhaps disconnecting that would work ?.
Nope, tried that, you get nag message.
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Old Oct 1, 2006 | 11:12 AM
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Wow that's creepy. The other interesting thing I noticed is the drl module on canadian cars is located in the hood.
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Old Oct 1, 2006 | 03:06 PM
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right, there is a difference between the canadian and US models on the DRL and seats and headlights with washers.
On the USA model there is a sneak circuit, it monitors all aspects of the DRL system, even if I (and I tried this) remove the 2v output from the relay feeding the highbeams, thereby just leaving the DLR module to function as is, but the highbeams not receiving the 2v, the MID gives you a nag message.
somehow the system is monitoring all aspects of the circuit, from its actual functioning to the 2V feeding the highbeams.
As a side note, as I was out driving today, most of the cars I saw with DRL's on were lower end cars, with the other end being high $$$ sedans usually driven by metamucil and ensure powered humans.
So, I agree with the statement that DRL's have this cheapening and impaired stigma associated with them.
Personally I hate them.
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Old Oct 1, 2006 | 05:23 PM
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If you interrupt the 2v circuit to the DRLs, the system thinks one or more is burned out, and gives you the error message so you'll know to replace them. That's what it's monitoring.
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Old Oct 2, 2006 | 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Courage
I got pulled over by the police tonight because I forgot to turn on my headlights at night (previous vehicle had daytime running lights). So my question: is there a way to activate daytime running lights on the RL? Is there a chime or other obvious indicator that you've left the lights on when exiting the vehicle? Thanks.

PS--Police officer was very nice and gently reminded me of the need to turn on the lights. Geez!
You stated that you live in the U.S. - then you already have DRL's
The reason for lights at night is not always for you to see - it's sometimes for you to be seen and that's to your advantage.
Did you really buy this car not knowing that it has automatic lights?
After you bought it, did you read the manual?
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Old Oct 2, 2006 | 03:43 PM
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Is it safe to leave the headlights on the auto position ? I was just thinking they tell you not to leave the lights on and start the car on convential cars. If you leave it on auto and start the car up in the night it will turn on before the motor starts and than loose power for a sec while starting right ?. Wondering if that's bad for the hid bulbs ?
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Old Oct 2, 2006 | 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Touge
Is it safe to leave the headlights on the auto position ? I was just thinking they tell you not to leave the lights on and start the car on convential cars. If you leave it on auto and start the car up in the night it will turn on before the motor starts and than loose power for a sec while starting right ?. Wondering if that's bad for the hid bulbs ?

I'm sure the engineers thought of that when they designed the system.
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Old Oct 2, 2006 | 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Touge
Is it safe to leave the headlights on the auto position ? I was just thinking they tell you not to leave the lights on and start the car on convential cars. If you leave it on auto and start the car up in the night it will turn on before the motor starts and than loose power for a sec while starting right ?. Wondering if that's bad for the hid bulbs ?

Live the lights in auto for the life of the car. It's all taken care of in the software.
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Old Oct 2, 2006 | 07:26 PM
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I know. I got pulled over the day after buying the car so I hadn't finished the manual. Yes, it was an oversight on my part. But what's your point? Never mind.
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Old Oct 2, 2006 | 11:07 PM
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eliminating DRL bulbs from the circuit

Originally Posted by Mike_TX
If you interrupt the 2v circuit to the DRLs, the system thinks one or more is burned out, and gives you the error message so you'll know to replace them. That's what it's monitoring.
It should be possible to measure the resistance of the DRL bulb portion of the circuit and replace it with a resistor of suitable resistance. That'd prevent the open-circuit detection from signaling bulb burnout.
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Old Oct 2, 2006 | 11:10 PM
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Yeah I guess different engineers designed the auto switch than designed the trunk release.


Originally Posted by GoHawks
I'm sure the engineers thought of that when they designed the system.
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Old Oct 3, 2006 | 12:19 AM
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It should be possible to measure the resistance of the DRL bulb portion of the circuit and replace it with a resistor of suitable resistance. That'd prevent the open-circuit detection from signaling bulb burnout.

As long as you could find and mount a resistor of about 30 watts that could safely disipate the heat. I, again, just don't get what the need is to defeat a safety feature? Because it makes the car look cheap? Please!

There is a roadcourse over in Western Michigan called Gingerman Raceway. I did a fair amount of instructing there and also would help out on the track.

Generation 4 Corvettes did not have DRL and Gen 5 Vettes do. One of the corner workers mentioned how much faster you could pick up the newer Vettes coming out of the corners with the DRLs. I started watching this and it was the first time I really appreciated what DRLs could do. I'll trade some increased safety over a concern that somebody might think my car isn't expensive enough every time.
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Old Oct 3, 2006 | 07:06 AM
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guess that means officer friendly can pick up the vette earlier too.
another reason to disable the DRL.
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Old Oct 3, 2006 | 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by sotiri
guess that means officer friendly can pick up the vette earlier too.
another reason to disable the DRL.

Try that again???
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Old Oct 3, 2006 | 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Touge
Is it safe to leave the headlights on the auto position ? I was just thinking they tell you not to leave the lights on and start the car on convential cars. If you leave it on auto and start the car up in the night it will turn on before the motor starts and than loose power for a sec while starting right ?. Wondering if that's bad for the hid bulbs ?
I leave mine on 'Auto' all the time. If the car showed signs of cranking slowly, I'd temporarily turn the 'auto' off -- and then replace the battery :-)
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Old Oct 3, 2006 | 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by sotiri
guess that means officer friendly can pick up the vette earlier too.
another reason to disable the DRL.
If I recall correctly I think C&D or MT did a story several years ago where they found that DRLs and having highbeams on at night might inhibit the ability for laser to immediately lock on.
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