has anyone of you tried to get their hands on the DVD w/ going the regular dealer route (i.e. download from internet?)

 

You mean...pirate it? :/

 

hahaha.. i think you are getting the drift of it Is spending $200 odd bucks reasonable for getting an update? (not that it causes a dent in my pocket, but still, its a matter of principles (which i have none of)

 

Lexus charges ~$250, but "reasonable" is a relative term.

It would be cool if they could issue updates online and allow you to either burn your own DVD or upload the data via something like a USB flash drive. Guess that would take away a healthy revenue source though.

 

Exactly, without revenue how could they provide the updates? Alpine doesn't gather the data but they must compile it and then update their software and database to drive this great nav system. They need to make money like the rest of us.

However, it would be nice if they provided the option of download at a discounted price. THis would allow people to save a little money on postage and CD material costs. Sort of like when you buy software online and forgo the option of having a CD mailed to you. You get a little discount.

 

Is there any fix yet from Acura, Alpine or anyone else for the DST issue in 2005 RLs?

 

Yes, buy the latest version of the Nav software from Alpine. It has an option where you can select either Oct-Mar or Nov-Apr for DST operation.

However, beware, there are bugs in the upgrade process going to this 4.62. People going from the 05 version to the 08 version had issues. Did you already upgrade your software once before in 06 or 07?

 

Since the 4.62 DVD upgrade is on "back order" you cannot get the fix.

I assume that once they sort out the software loading issues with various models of Nav, you can buy the new DVD update that contains the software update for DST change.

You probably won't be able to use the fix until Spring, however, given how close we are to the November DST change.

 

I have the one year old DVD...I think it is 3.56 software. You go into the set-up screen...move center control to right then you have a list of options. One item on this list is time options (or something like that) Then you select DST settings. You have two choices...April/October...or March/November.

 

You probably have 4.56 not 3.56, but that's still strange. The latest update is 4.62 and the literature clearly stated it had the DST change included. I was one of the few that got the DVD before it went on backorder AND it installed successfully. I'll let everyone know if it works in a few weeks.

 

Surprise, surprise! My clock was OK on Saturday and has rolled backward an hour by today. I didn't notice it this AM on the way to work. I did notice it when I was out at lunch.
I guess the DST setting issue isn't fixed yet.

I just reset it manually and will wait to see what happens next spring.

 

I would assume it won't work in the spring either. Something is wrong and I'd look into it. My clock did not change this weekend and still is in sync with Daylight Savings Time.

Some obvious questions;
1) Are you sure you successfully installed the new 4.62 software in your car? You can check by going to SETUP and then selecting System Info at the bottom of the list. It should say 4.62 now after you did the upgrade

2) If the upgrade was successful, make sure your DST setting is on MAR-NOV. I think it gets set by default but from the same SETUP screen select DST Options and be sure.

 

I agree with SpicyMikey, 4.62 so far appears to be working correctly. My clock hasn't yet changed and it's set for auto DST adjustment. We'll know more next week if it automatically changes on Sunday.

 

At my recent J D Power event for the Acura Nav system, we were asked what we'd think about automatic updating of map data through Bluetooth or a similar system. Obviously a leading question, since who would object to that?

As for these DVD's costing so much, I have my own thoughts. Because of the high cost, many people just don't bother, or maybe just update if they keep the car for several years and things become too outdated. Therefore, the small percentage who DO buy the disc have to pay that much more.

If every Nav system just cost, say, $50 more, the expense would be absorbed, and they could send everyone an updated DVD every year. Alternatively, make it a subscription thing, like XM. For $3 or 4 a month, or whatever, you would be guaranteed updates.

Either way, they're shooting themselves in the foot the way they're handling it now. I'd LOVE to see automatic updates every time maps are updated, and I don't mean once a year. I say update the map and POI data constantly and upload it to the cars continuously, and I'd gladly pay a few more bucks for it.

This is the Data Age, and it's absurd that we're working with 2 year-old map data.

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Overall it seems that there is so much more that could be done with are Nav units, Acuralink and HFL. Why couldn't we download updates of software thru acuralink like you said for a montly fee. I would n't hesitate paying a reasonable monthly fee of 7-10 for maps updates, wx radar overlays, and HFl changes (adding more voice commands etc.)

Does anyone know if our 2006 RL's are 2.0 bluetooth compatible? Or are 2.0 bluetooth devices backward compatible?

 

Bluetooth 2.1, the latest standard, just like, 2.0 and 1.2, is *supposed* to be backwards compatible with the initial 1.1 standard

 

Exactly...I have yet to update the NAV on my '04 MDX and it has still never steered me wrong. I also don't have any immediate plans to update the NAV on my RL, especially to fix the daylight savings issue. In a few days my clock will be right again.

LL

 

Just to report, 4.62 changed the time as it should have.

 

Reviving this thread.

I took my RL in today to have the other door handle replaced, and I asked the dealer about the software update to correct the DST change.

The SM said that they have never heard of such a thing.

I looked through the TSBs and couldn't find anything.

Has anyone had it done, and if so, can you refer me to any thing that I can show the dealership?

 

It has nothing to do with the dealer service dept. That's why he was probably clueless.

Go to this following website and order the updated DVD from Alpine

https://store.alpine-usa.com/Acuradv.../naviorder.php

 

I went to that link, and in the FAQS, I found this.

My 2007 or earlier vehicle's navi is not switching Daylight Savings Time correctly anymore (in March/November), or the navi is still switching the time using the old April/October daylight savings schedule. What's wrong?

A new software version will be available soon that can be loaded by your dealer to change the navi's old Daylight Savings Time schedule to the new March/November schedule

That's why I assumed the dealer would be in the know.

I ended up calling ACS and they informed me that the patch is not yet available.

 

Interesting. You're right. I just went to the website also and saw that it said (in RED letters) that the DVD was only available for dealers right now. Something has changed since I ordered mine back in October.

I remember there were some people having issues loading the new 4.62 dvd after they bought it. I didn't have any issues and mine worked fine. Maybe this change of policy is all related to these upgrade issues. Maybe they want the dealer to install the new version so they can address issues when/if they happen.

I suppose that means your dealer IS an idiot I guess you need to force this issue with them. Good luck with that GoHawks.

 

The note in red letters refers to the new navigation DVD. I don't believe it irefers to just the patch.

I'm beginning to wonder if Acura is not going to go through the effort of creating a seperate patch, and they'll just hope that people will buy the new DVD which has the correct dates.

 

There was no such thing as a "patch" in the fall. The DST logic was on the nav disk. When you updated the disk it just included the new rules for DST.

Again, if there is some "patch" that is free to acura owners then that's all new. However, I don't see any reference to a DST patch on the website. Where did you read that?

 

Maybe I'm just interpreting the following wrong...

My 2007 or earlier vehicle's navi is not switching Daylight Savings Time correctly anymore (in March/November), or the navi is still switching the time using the old April/October daylight savings schedule. What's wrong?

A new software version will be available soon that can be loaded by your dealer to change the navi's old Daylight Savings Time schedule to the new March/November schedule



It doesn't imply that I have to buy the new disk in order to get the new update. The second paragraph seems to imply that the version is specific to addres the time change.

The ACS rep also referred to it as a "patch" not a new software version that I needed to buy.

 

That FAQ is kind of vague but you could be right. What I told you about the past is true, but, maybe they got a lot of kickback from owners having to pay for the upgrade. Maybe they created a separate software upgrade just for the DST and will have the dealer do it for free if the car is still under warranty.

For me it was worth the new DVD because I live in a growing area and there were lots of new streets on the DVD. Also, I got an upgraded Zagat database. I love being able to set destinations by phone number

I agree, if people don't want/need those things it would be stupid to pay $185 to just have the car automatically change your clock twice a year. After all, until nav systems came available in cars, we always had to change the clock manually. I guess I could keep doing it a little longer.

 

Time to resurrect this old topic. Besides, I love to watch the frenzy of the noobs.

I read recently that a forum member got a software update by his dealer tech to patch the DST adjustment feature of the RL's NAVI. Indeed, my tech has told me for a few months that Acura was readying a patch independent of a NAVI DVD update. I was expecting it to be a NAVI memory flash to be installed by a tech during a service call.

I got a message from my tech today that he understands Acura will be sending an update directly to RL owners. I got the messge via a 3rd party, so I was unable to ask / qualify the response. But I would assume this is a DVD update we would install in our NAVI drives, and likely the same software that is part of the recent 4.63 DVD update minus the map updates and changes.

Again, I was unable to speak to him directly today to qualify this. I am flattered my tech often shares 'inside' info even though often he, himself does not know for certain.

Perhaps there is a tech on the board (anonymous) who can qualify this info? And for those who are not the original owners, will there be a registration to aquire the update?

 

I know it is dreaming, but it would be great if they could do it through AcuraLink.

Maybe in the 5G RL

 

I agree Chas. It would nice and transparent.

But the reality of how many recipients is just way too small. How many RL owners even understand AcuraLink? And of those who utilize it, how many have a paired phone with a data modem? That would be a very small sample of RL owners getting the DST update.

I think they may also be the reason to send out an update DST DVD to RL owners. Likley not enough sampling would bring their RLs into an Acura dealer for service, nevermind the DST update.

Hopefully someone here can qualify the situation.

 

I just spoke with Acura Customer Service, they confirmed there is a DST only patch for the older RL Nav systems. However, an Acura dealer has to install it. It is not being mailed to RL owners of record for do-it-yourself installation. The Service Bulletin for this patch is 07-22. The patch has been available since the first week in October 2008.

 

I don't think this issue impacts the 08 models. Mine has been spot on with no manual intervention.

 

Simple question...If I go with a newer disk and it has issues, will there be any problem just putting the original disk back it?

LL

 

No. Just put the original disc back in and reinstall the old software. It's easy as pie.

 

I have an active XM account and my clock updated itself this past Sunday.