Brand New RL $39.8K
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Originally Posted by freddy202022
I just got a e-mail from Daryl Walters At Downey Acura saying RL's this week are priced at $39.8K, is that possible ?
OUCH...Hate to see that..that means soneone wanting to trade their 05 RL will probable get no more than 35 to 36 K, Pretty big hit for a one year old car that many people paid list for.
I guess when times are tough and demand is low so goes the prices.
I would suggest to wait for the 06 is you really want an RL.
I would anticipate the 06 price will be negotiable (probably in the 43K to 44K range and you won't be taking the beating of a years worth od depreciation.
I paid list -$1000 for my RL in Nov 2004. That was the last time I will ever buy the first year model of any car.
I remember buying my 2000RL in Nov 0f 1999 for $ 500 over Dealers Invoice.
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I think Acura is hurting themselves here. There are not enough changes/enhancements in the '06 to justify the old MSRP of $49+ If an '05 can be gotten now for ~$40 (or even $41) WHY should anyone pay more than around $45 (or maybe $46 max) for a nearly identical '06? Also I shudder to think of the trade-in/resale values of an '05 in a couple of months (it will have to be less than these current sale prices).
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Originally Posted by msu79gt82
I think Acura is hurting themselves here. There are not enough changes/enhancements in the '06 to justify the old MSRP of $49+ If an '05 can be gotten now for ~$40 (or even $41) WHY should anyone pay more than around $45 (or maybe $46 max) for a nearly identical '06? Also I shudder to think of the trade-in/resale values of an '05 in a couple of months (it will have to be less than these current sale prices).
looks like I will prolly be driving my 05 RL into the ground instead of trading it in within a couple years.
Shame humans are this stupid to not buy a car as all around good as this one is....just backs up my belief that people are idiots and will do stuff that makes no sense. Another example of this is the fct that every gas station in my city right now has 20+ car lineups for gas simply because some radio reports slapped some panic in people to go buy gas RIGHT NOW.
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Originally Posted by Rob L
....just backs up my belief that people are idiots and will do stuff that makes no sense. Another example of this is the fct that every gas station in my city right now has 20+ car lineups for gas simply because some radio reports slapped some panic in people to go buy gas RIGHT NOW. ![Why Me](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/whyme.gif)
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BTW: Hurricane Rita has caused ALL oil and gas activity to cease in the western Gulf and it WILL cause damage to platforms and pipelines. Damage from Katrina in the central Gulf has NOT yet been repaired. Prices WILL go up! Here in Houston there is virtually no gas left and tankers are being diverted here to aid in the evacuation.
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If I was you, I would buy 10 of them for $39.8 and sell them for $44 or so, you make 40k (so yours will be for free).
Let's be realistic here, no one will sell this car for $39.8, unless there are hidden problem with the car. Maybe the car was after accident, has 3500K miles etc. Dealer invoice is $43.5, so about $4K below the invoice is unrealistic. Maybe he quoted you a price for TL-A spec?
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Let's be realistic here, no one will sell this car for $39.8, unless there are hidden problem with the car. Maybe the car was after accident, has 3500K miles etc. Dealer invoice is $43.5, so about $4K below the invoice is unrealistic. Maybe he quoted you a price for TL-A spec?
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If you can buy it at 39.9 it probably isn't a terrible idea. Resale is going to hurt, but at that price I don't think it really matters.
The 06 has very few enhancements - the tech pacakge. There may be a couple more things, but I doubt it will be anything big.
The 06 has very few enhancements - the tech pacakge. There may be a couple more things, but I doubt it will be anything big.
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I just fly down from the bay area and got one for $39,998, now the problem is I have to drive back home, but at least i saved $4K from Bay Area prices.
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Get 2?
At this price I just may have to get another one to use on the weekends. Bought my RL almost a year ago at full msrp and like it so much, why not get another one. Have lakeshore silver/taupe now so maybe a black/black would be a good weekend color combo.
Seriously, if they are selling them at this price, if anyone now buys an infiniti, 530, A6 or whatever, they might have to have their head examined. :-)
Seriously, if they are selling them at this price, if anyone now buys an infiniti, 530, A6 or whatever, they might have to have their head examined. :-)
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Damn, expensive Acuras just are always failures. At 39k, the RL is a FANTASTIC machine.
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Yes, that is quite a fantastic price. Undoubtedly, the resale values are going to hurt severely with these low prices (similar to GM Employee Pricing), so this is really a win-win situation for those people who plan on keeping their car for a long time.
Its sad that Acura has to discount the RL this much in order for it to sell.
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Its sad that Acura has to discount the RL this much in order for it to sell.
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Originally Posted by AcuraGT-3
LMAO at this cars image and future resale value. It tanked 10k in a year. I expect this from GM, not Acura.
Damn, expensive Acuras just are always failures. At 39k, the RL is a FANTASTIC machine.
Damn, expensive Acuras just are always failures. At 39k, the RL is a FANTASTIC machine.
The RL is a fantastic machine even at MSRP. Consider the fact that the RL offers more technology and equipment than a fully loaded M35 with AWD and GS300 with AWD, more power, better build quality and materials, all at a cheaper price, it only makes the other two look overpriced. If Acura sold a stripped down base version of the RL like Lexus and Infiniti do, I'm more than positive the car would have attracted MUCH more buyers. Honda is starting to do this with the Pilot, hopefully Acura will soon follow.
And to say expensive Acura's are always failures is just plain stupid. The MSRP on the MDX ranges from $37,000 for the base model to $44,000 for the top-model Touring Package. I don't need to remind you how well the MDX sells. In addition, have you heard of the Acura Legend? The BASE model Legend had a higher MSRP than a base model BMW 5-Series. Do you need to be reminded of how well the Legend sold also? Do some research before you speak from your a**. Acura was able to competitively sell a car that had a base MSRP higher than the Germans, something Lexus or Infiniti has NEVER been able to do.
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The RL is a fantastic machine even at MSRP. Consider the fact that the RL offers more technology and equipment than a fully loaded M35 with AWD
And to say expensive Acura's are always failures is just plain stupid. The MSRP on the MDX ranges from $37,000 for the base model to $44,000 for the top-model Touring Package. I don't need to remind you how well the MDX sells.
And to say expensive Acura's are always failures is just plain stupid. The MSRP on the MDX ranges from $37,000 for the base model to $44,000 for the top-model Touring Package. I don't need to remind you how well the MDX sells.
Disagree: A fully loaded M35 has more technology and equipment than an RL (e.g. Laser Cruise, Lane Departure Warning, Brake Preview, Backup Camera, etc).
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Agree: I own the excellent fully loaded MDX
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Originally Posted by msu79gt82
Disagree and agree.
Disagree: A fully loaded M35 has more technology and equipment than an RL (e.g. Laser Cruise, Lane Departure Warning, Brake Preview, Backup Camera, etc).
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Disagree: A fully loaded M35 has more technology and equipment than an RL (e.g. Laser Cruise, Lane Departure Warning, Brake Preview, Backup Camera, etc).
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Originally Posted by vp911
But from what I have read the lane departure system is crappy and an annoyance to many people. THe backup cam is a big plus IMO. laser cruise - well i hated it on my fx35 - it would slow down when going around a curve if there was a truck there. teh brake preview would set off the laser alert on my V1. I much prefer navtraffic over those. But yes, the M does seem to have more tech. I guess it is just a matter of what peoples preferences are.
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Originally Posted by msu79gt82
Disagree and agree.
Disagree: A fully loaded M35 has more technology and equipment than an RL (e.g. Laser Cruise, Lane Departure Warning, Brake Preview, Backup Camera, etc).
Agree: I own the excellent fully loaded MDX![Too Cool](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/toocool.gif)
Disagree: A fully loaded M35 has more technology and equipment than an RL (e.g. Laser Cruise, Lane Departure Warning, Brake Preview, Backup Camera, etc).
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Originally Posted by vp911
But from what I have read the lane departure system is crappy and an annoyance to many people. THe backup cam is a big plus IMO. laser cruise - well i hated it on my fx35 - it would slow down when going around a curve if there was a truck there. teh brake preview would set off the laser alert on my V1. I much prefer navtraffic over those. But yes, the M does seem to have more tech. I guess it is just a matter of what peoples preferences are.
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The $39,800 is a great price for the RL, but I think will hurt Acura in the long run. One reason I have owned Acuras and Hondas is the historically high resale value. This will definitely hurt the resale value. People who paid list price will really be hurt.
I remember in 1980 I wanted to buy a Honda Accord. The supply was very limited and dealers would not deal. I ended up buying a Datsun. I bought my first Acura in 2000, a TL, and supply then was limited. Things have changed now. Seems like Acura and Honda dealers, along with most other dealers, have an over supply of cars, and really have to reduce prices to get rid of them.
BTW, what can you buy an 05TL for now?
I remember in 1980 I wanted to buy a Honda Accord. The supply was very limited and dealers would not deal. I ended up buying a Datsun. I bought my first Acura in 2000, a TL, and supply then was limited. Things have changed now. Seems like Acura and Honda dealers, along with most other dealers, have an over supply of cars, and really have to reduce prices to get rid of them.
BTW, what can you buy an 05TL for now?
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Originally Posted by vp911
No - I have heard that it will beep even if you are not changing lanes...
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A bit of a note on the other LPS out there. Lexus is also discounting on their new GS300/430. They can be had for about $800-1000 over invoice. Also with the M35x, which is about $700-1000 over invoice. I believe all 3 car makers (Infiniti, Acura, Lexus) have huge differences between Invoice and MSRP. In any event, its a great time to buy. I was on the fence on getting an RL. I am going this weekend to hopefully buy an RL !
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I remember in 1980 I wanted to buy a Honda Accord. The supply was very limited and dealers would not deal. I ended up buying a Datsun.
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I got an email from a NYC Metro Area Dealer citing $43k for a 2005 RL that includes destination. Haven't seen any $39K prices in NY/NJ yet. Has anyone? Looks like Cali is getting the great deals.
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Originally Posted by msu79gt82
Ditto, sort of. In 1980 I bought a Nissan 200SX because Honda refused to deal on the Prelude.
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Originally Posted by vp911
No - I have heard that it will beep even if you are not changing lanes...
However I've seen many times comments like "I don't need the car telling me I'm switching lanes"... Scary. If peoplewant to change lanes, theyshould signal it and the thing won't beep...
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Re: Lane Departure Warning Systems
A recent article in USAToday stated that the Feds are thinking about giving buyers tax breaks on future safety devices. Infiniti's LDW was specifically pointed out as an example. I for one see it as a desirable safety feature for highway trips more so than around town.
A recent article in USAToday stated that the Feds are thinking about giving buyers tax breaks on future safety devices. Infiniti's LDW was specifically pointed out as an example. I for one see it as a desirable safety feature for highway trips more so than around town.
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However I've seen many times comments like "I don't need the car telling me I'm switching lanes"... Scary. If peoplewant to change lanes, theyshould signal it and the thing won't beep...