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Old 03-10-2009, 08:29 PM
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2009 M35x vs. 2008/2009 Acura RL

Hello Gents, Ladies,

Excuse me if this is a repeated post. However, I've been toying with the idea to flea to Infiniti for the M35x model. AS Acura's 09' Model just isn't up to par IMHO. Just don't like the looks nearly as much as the 08' RL.

Well, please chime in and offer advantages, disadvantages of either model vs. the other. Not in the market for a change. I'm just starting to peak around a little and have an itch that needs to be scratched or put to rest.

Thanks to all opinions in advance.
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They are very similar cars feature wise, comparable power as well.

The main deal braker for me was the lack of an all wheel drive system that changes power side to side.

As far as looks, give me a month and I will show you something to drool about.
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the newer design M35 is IMO.

It looks to squarish
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If you already have a 2008 and have money to throw away, why not get a 535xi?

At least it will be fast. I think the 09 RL will spank 09 M35x...
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Originally Posted by 037
As far as looks, give me a month and I will show you something to drool about.
LOL..... What do you have up your sleeve? Pics Pics... I need something encouraging to keep me here.
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something may happen this Sunday...never know.
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Originally Posted by 037
They are very similar cars feature wise, comparable power as well.

The main deal braker for me was the lack of an all wheel drive system that changes power side to side.

As far as looks, give me a month and I will show you something to drool about.
You must be gonna trade it in, because the power plenum & hood that does not line up is beyond help.
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Arrow Consumer Reports Rating

CR rates the M35 as the best but I have never driven one...
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I always liked the Acura "angry" headlights instead of the infinity "Oh my God" headlights (Prol just camera angle here though).
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I'm thinking that the M35 has a heavier ride to it. Maybe more european appeal............??? I am only going off of what one of my best friends who owns one is telling me. He has had both and says that the M35 is a better car as for the ride and interior.

I have no idea. Thats why I am asking. I still think that the RL has more body appeal than the M35. Something about the body of the M just doesn't strike me the same as the RL. ??????????????
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If your best friends already owns one, why don't you just compare it to your 2008 with your own butt?
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Originally Posted by 037
If your best friends already owns one, why don't you just compare it to your 2008 with your own butt?
I would if he were anywhere close to me............LOL. He's too far away! So, before I go into a dealer and test drive one (and make either a good or bad decision) I figured I'd ask some people here on the board what their impressions of both cars are. I wish I could drive his car.
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There was a video on a car magazine where they were comparing the M35X, GS 300AWD, and RL. The RL kicked their @sses. I can't seem to find the link though.
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Originally Posted by triniexr
There was a video on a car magazine where they were comparing the M35X, GS 300AWD, and RL. The RL kicked their @sses. I can't seem to find the link though.

This was a while ago.

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...cleId=106555#2
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Originally Posted by GoHawks
oh ok, thats the site. I found the one with just the lexus gs 300 AWD, infiniti M35X, and the acura rl.

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ura/model=RL#3
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I watched the bottom video, never realized LS430 is that slow! Gotta find me one of those and smoke it. As far as Infiniti, M45 is listed at 335hp for 2006, WEAK! 2009 is at 325hp...oh well. Maybe Sport is worth another 5hp?
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Actually just coming from an Infiniti i dunno bout that switch, this is of course off my own personal experience but its not uncommon in the cars so it seems. I myself had an Infiniti G35 Coupe and my cousin a FX45 SUV, i know without a shadow of a doubt that door lock acuators and window regulators are a real PITA. Get familiar with having to deal with this issue. When i purchased my G both regulators and motors for my windows were just changed as the seller of the car provided me with a receipt. Within 5 months of the life on these NEW motors my passenger went out AGAIN. And my door lock acuators especially the passenger side door loved to stop working from time to time. My cousin had the same issue door actuator that needed to be replaced within 6 months of owning the car and 1 of the 4 windows needed a new motor as well. Looking at the forums for the cars its one of the most common issues with the car. I know if you buy a new one you will have warranty and ladida.. but who wants to continually take their care in for the hassle.
I dropped the G and got myself into a 2005 RL and so far so good but we will see. I dont think ill ever go back to Infiniti after that experience as even friends with 350Z's have the same issues as well.

Good luck in your buy either way but im not a fan of lame problems like the one i mentioned above so at least somebody told you before you bought.
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Every make and model has issues, we all know that the amount of gadgets and technologies in these cars is almost at ridiculous levels. That said, the Infiniti and Acura are both leaders in quality, but once again there will be problems with each and every model. Remember the older TLs with trannys? You say Infiniti's have problems with lock actuators and window regulators. I have a BMW thats been through window regulators. Thats the way things go.

I agree, its a pain in the butt....but my point is that every make and model is not perfect. Lexus gets it close....but the Acura and Infiniti do some cool things the Lexus can't.

That said, and this might sound stupid, but I'm not a big fan of the flat-finished wood in the M35. It looks cheap. I'd really like to see Infiniti put some gloss on that trim to make it look nice.

Just my
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The more i look at the updated RL the more I am loving it, it makes the M pictured above look dated.
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I guess you like HD, here's one more.

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That's a tough choice.

They're both terrific, and similar in so many ways.

You have to expect a certain amount of Infiniti-trashing on an Acura board. Personally, I think the M is gorgeous, inside and out. It also has considerably more room than the RL, front and back.

If I were looking at an RL, it would be an '08 -- for exactly that reason. I can't stand looking at the '09, despite its functional improvements (degraded gas mileage being not one of them).

For me, the one potential deal-breaker with the M35 is the ridiculous gearing on the AWD "x" version. The RWD car has a 7-speed now, but the M35x still revs at nearly 3000 RPM when cruising at 70. Combined with the tire rumble and boy-racer exhaust, that's what I consider an intolerable amount of intrusion for a luxury car.
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Regardless OP you will receive alot of biased responses.
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my guess is that the mileage went down because of a more agressive SH-AWD tuning. As far as speed, 90mph can be had at 2600rpm, thouroughly tested over 1k miles.
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Originally Posted by 037
my guess is that the mileage went down because of a more agressive SH-AWD tuning. As far as speed, 90mph can be had at 2600rpm, thouroughly tested over 1k miles.
Making the SH-AWD more aggressive (read: RWD biased) isn't going to affect gas mileage. It's still driving four wheels.

Increasing displacement (3.5L -> 3.7L) will.
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just noticed there is a tongue in the beak on the rl

well i dun ave experience on both cars, but i guess generally acura/honda is more reliable than infiniti/nissan, i had a g35 coupe the power window motor had been fixed 2 times, and my 350z coupe, replaced driver side window motor once becoz when i press auto up, the window closed and reopened itself 4 inches, then i had a 350z convertible, that time the power window motor, again, blown, and the convertible opened fully with 3+ tries every time.

happy with my tsx now
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Originally Posted by GoHawks
Making the SH-AWD more aggressive (read: RWD biased) isn't going to affect gas mileage. It's still driving four wheels.

Increasing displacement (3.5L -> 3.7L) will.
Maybe it's the AWD, or maybe it's the displacement, but other companies have no problems getting better mileage out of their much bigger V8's.

I blame the SH-AWD for the mileage.
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You can also blame the 5 speed transmission when every one else has 6 0r 7 speeds.
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With the snappy acceleration...I think I'm content.
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You can also blame the 5 speed transmission when every one else has 6 0r 7 speeds.
That would be the case as well. Forgot to mention that.
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Get the facts right

The M 35 still uses a 5 speed tranny
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Originally Posted by MIKEYDRED
The M 35 still uses a 5 speed tranny
According to Infiniti's web site the M35 uses a 7-speed tranny.

M35x/M45/M45x all still use a 5 speed.


Fuel Economy

M35 17/25
M35x 16/22
M45 16/21
M45x 14/20


According to the Acura website the RL's fuel economy is 16/22, identical to the M35x. So the RL (with a larger engine) gets the same mileage as the M35.
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Originally Posted by GoHawks
According to Infiniti's web site the M35 uses a 7-speed tranny.

M35x/M45/M45x all still use a 5 speed.


Fuel Economy

M35 17/25
M35x 16/22
M45 16/21
M45x 14/20


According to the Acura website the RL's fuel economy is 16/22, identical to the M35x. So the RL (with a larger engine) gets the same mileage as the M35.
point taken even with a 7 spped tranny their gas milage is no better and for people who disagree yes I like HD since i have an HD tv in every room and the RL does look better than the M
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both are great cars, but for some reason the interior of the M isnt cool as the RL.
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Yeah, I agree. The interior on the M is next to the RLs interior.. That Infiniti is pretty boring in my opinion and I would get sick and tired of the interior after a few weeks. I'd be like...

"Shit. I hate getting into this interior.. and I hate looking at the inside of my car, especially during the day. And I also hate using my NAV display and the buttons are angled so stupid. I hate my car. The only thing that's cool are my tail lights, dammit".
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fixed. I have to admit the exterior is mesmerizing.

Originally Posted by afjock21
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Yeah, I agree. The interior on the M is next to the RLs interior.. That Infiniti is pretty boring in my opinion and I would get sick and tired of the interior after a few weeks. I'd be like...

"People think it's the shit from the outside until they sit inside for awhile".
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"Old" regulars here will recall that I heavily cross-shopped the M35x (I still prefer to call it the Fuga, it's JDM designation) and the RL. I like the exteriors for both, and felt the buttons on the console of the M were a bit of a reach. Ultimately, though, what decided me in favor of the RL was the deal. 2 1/2 years later, I'm not in the least sorry about my choice.
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Originally Posted by neuronbob
"Old" regulars here will recall that I heavily cross-shopped the M35x (I still prefer to call it the Fuga, it's JDM designation) and the RL. I like the exteriors for both, and felt the buttons on the console of the M were a bit of a reach. Ultimately, though, what decided me in favor of the RL was the deal. 2 1/2 years later, I'm not in the least sorry about my choice.
Thanks. I have heard that the M35 has more of a european ride compared to the RL. Whatever that mean..........
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European in that context would mean more sporty, which in American speak is more rough/bumpy.


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