Steve C

Well.....
That's the latest! I was stalled at 45k for a new 05 RL.....dealer called & offered it at 43,035.

Acura is giving the customer a $2500 dollar incentive on the RL!
Dealer says in my case, he can only drop the car to his invoice...since we stalled at the 45k price he is holding out on.

To give me the car for the full $2.5k incentive would drop the car 500 below invoice, so 43k it is!

spacklebucket

If there is a $2500 incentive for purchase, I think many dealers who have the car in stock will go lower. Since most dealers will go $500 over invoice on a lot of deals without any incentive, I would think that $2500 would allow them to go $2000 under invoice and still make $500 + the holdback.

gleek

I heard that the $2500 incentive is only for AHFC leased RL's.

spacklebucket

I was able to take advantage of that $2500 incentive on a lease. I thought I saw somewhere that it ended 9/6/05. I assumed the original post was referring to a different incentive on purchases....if its true, its the first I've heard of it.

vp911

My dealer confirmed today that there is a 2500 incentive on all purchases as well as leases.

spacklebucket

Thanks for that info.....makes me think they are not doing well with this car in the US.

vp911

It needs more goodies for it to be worth 50 grand. Cooled seats, backup cam, more power/torque. 8 way adjust on pass. seat. 18" wheels with the pilot sport a/s. Then it will be worth closer to 50k.

Karl_in_Chicago

It's mid-September and there's a new '06 model coming out (albeit with relatively minor changes). It's standard for any manufacturer to offer incentives to clear last year's models out.

medrxman

Confirmation of $2500 dealer incentive at Edmunds:

Edmunds Link

Steve C

The Edmunds link states it is "Cashback to Dealer".
That seems to imply to me that it is $2500 in addition to their holdback.

In theory, if dealer invoice is $43.5k (not sure what it is, just pulling a number),
and a dealer is willing to sell at that price before this incentive was being offered,
he should now be able to reduce that price by $2.5k (reflecting the incentive).
Does this sound correct? If this is "Cashback to Dealer" as stated, this means the dealer gets the $2.5k, even if he sells an RL to a buyer at full retail...correct?

spacklebucket

That is correct in theory, Steve C. Whether or not you can get a particular dealer to agree to that is another story.

Also - I understand that its the end of the model year and all that, but I don't see Infiniti offering $2500 incentives on the Ms.

msu79gt82

According to Edmunds Dealer Invoice is $43,714 (which is higher than it was when I began looking back in April) w/ a Destination Charge of $570 for a total of $44,284.

A quick look at the RL owner sign in Sticky shows sevaral recent sales at or below $42,500 - therefore I would not buy an '05 for less than $41,500 in light of this new incentive. Of course this may be regional, but RLs are stacked on the lot here in Houston.

Rob L

I disagree. It needs the letters BMW or MB on its trunk for people to feel it is worth 50 grand.

The only car in this class that is a better deal than the RL is the new M.

I guarantee you that if any car from more of the prestigious brands offered a car the exact same as the RL and listed it at the original 49K price that everyone would say it was a steal.

msu79gt82

I agree that BMW and MB is reaping the benefits of buyers looking for "prestige" However that may change in the future if BMW and MB keep cranking out problematic cars and Acura & Infiniti keep cranking out improved vehicles. I for one could car less about prestige and am concerned about reliability - I never even considered an MB or a BMW. But I did go to a recent BWM VIP event - free food

vp911

No doubt that if the car had the BMW or MB or even lexus name on the trunk it would be considered a steal. But personally I couldnt justify 50 grand over the 35k TL for the features. I literally made a list of all the additional features and price I would pay on the RL (everything from the awd to the nicer interior and build quality) and I came up with a price close to 45k. I prefer acura because of the quality and bargain price over BMW and MB. While of course I think everybody would love to have the big name (bmw mb) on their car, I believe many of us who bought the RL bought it because of the quality.

Acura may wait a few years to put the latest and greatest feature in their cars - compared to other mfgrs (and this is not always true..sometimes they are the first) but when they do it, they get the job done right the first time.

to acura.

dadcat1

The M35/M45s are all 2006 model year, since they were introducted in March(?) 2005, so there is no need for Infiniti to offer incentives until next year.

spacklebucket

I'm not sure it makes much difference if its an MY 05 or MY 06. The point is that when cars sell well, (like the M is right now) there is no need to offer an incentive. They can get top dollar for them. Companies rarely lower the price of any service or product which is in great demand.

Rob L

Yep, I bought the RL for the overall package and couldnt care less about the brand name and some lame prestige shit that only wannabe wealthy people or snobby rich only seem to care about.

I will say one thing though about comparing higher priced models to those lower in the same brand...it never works where the added cost can be justified as the law of diminishing return steps in.

vp911

That is true. I used it as an example of how I came to the value I did - although it is far from being a real useful value.

spacklebucket

Completely agree. The total package that the RL offers was a big factor. The $2500 incentive was actually what put me over the edge when deciding between the RL and TL......and the diminishing return is really evident when looking at leasing.

TxDriver

This is a multi part post...any info is appreciated...

Test drove an RL last night. Have an '02 MB C320 that I love but it's going out of warrenty and has a pretty hefty payment. Was considering leasing an RL. They were advertising a 36 mos. least at $599.00. Found out that was with almost 5k down. Now the $599.00 saves me just over a hundred bucks a month and I get a sweet new car out of it, however, with 5k down, I don't actually break even until 2 years after I have returned the car.

They said they might be able to do something with the down payment, but they weren't sure. Never having leased before, I don't know how screwy they get with the numbers. Seems like there is a LOT to play with on that type of transaction.

I also get the idea that maybe the RL's aren't running off the lot, given the number they had here in Dallas on the lot.

And finally, owe 23k on the MB, and trade in appears to be right at 21.5 or 22k.

Is it feasable to trade in the MB and walk away with the keys to an RL with nothing out of pocket? Just got done paying two mortgages for a year and a significant down payment isn't realistic.

Any leasing info, price examples etc. would be appreciated.

vp911

Well - You can deff get a lower payment. The lease deal they are advertising has been going on for a while. There is an additional $2500 acura to dealer incentive. You can buy the car at roughly 43k. Since I really don't play the leasing game, I will let somebody else chime in to as how the price would work out. But, I will say this - I leased my car in June (and bought it out last month) for $544/month with 4k down. The base selling price was $45k. I think he told me that (a ROUGH estimate) for every 1 thousand you put down it saves you 27/month on the lease. I imagine you could get a lease at around 599 with 1k down. Maybe less - depends on the residuals also.

genemish1

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I am not trading anything in, but here's an example of the lease that I got..

RL + Backup Sensors + Mud Flaps + Wheel Locks + Cargo Tray + Cargo Net

36 months

15,000 miles

$585/mo (tax included)..

Total out of pocket $2,500 at signing (first month included)

So, if you take a plain RL with 36mo /12k miles, you should be ~$535/mo + downpayment.

lsbuffs

I just put in to Carsdirect for an RL in zip code 90210 (knowing stock is huge in So Cal)...came back with a price of $41,129.

For grins I put in my zip in the Denver area. Came back at $47,215, which is the MSRP less the $2500 I figure. I have to laugh when I think of my local dealer trying to get MSRP less the incentive when I could go to Texas or So Cal and save $6000 for just a little bit of hassle. Heck, I can think of worse things than a nice road trip through the desert and mountains in a brand new RL.

vp911

I often regret not going to cali to get my RL - I paid 45 here and I could have gotten it at 42,500 at the time. Sure I would have put a lot of miles on it coming home - but it would have been a great trip!

vtecracer

Acura of Downey, CA is sending out e-mails for internet pricing of $39,988 for an '05 RL.

msu79gt82

Since there are hardly any changes to the '06 why would anyone pay more than $43ish for an '06?? Seems to me Acura has set the market value for all future RLs considerably lower than the '05 MSRP.

SpringsAcura

IsBuffs-

If you are truly in the market, we are dealing on 05 RLs. Per Acura Rules and this board's rules, i cannot publish a sale price, but you can email me at estoneinco@yahoo.com and let me know what you are looking for!

Erik