Will resetting the oil indicator also change the maintenance reminders?

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Old Oct 28, 2014 | 10:09 AM
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Will resetting the oil indicator also change the maintenance reminders?

I just bought a 2015 RDX. Since previous cars, I've always done oil changes more frequently and use synthetic.

I just did an oil change at 4000 miles and reset the oil life indicator in the dashboard, and then read that the indicator is also tied to the maintenance minder. When oil life hits 15%, the maintenance lights turn on.

Now, because the car is under warranty, I'd like to get all the warranty that is provided, naturally.

Does this mean that I've also reset the maintenance indicators now and they won't light until later? What do I do here?
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Old Oct 28, 2014 | 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by pozix604
I just bought a 2015 RDX. Since previous cars, I've always done oil changes more frequently and use synthetic.

I just did an oil change at 4000 miles and reset the oil life indicator in the dashboard, and then read that the indicator is also tied to the maintenance minder. When oil life hits 15%, the maintenance lights turn on.

Now, because the car is under warranty, I'd like to get all the warranty that is provided, naturally.

Does this mean that I've also reset the maintenance indicators now and they won't light until later? What do I do here?
Yes, it has been reset. Don't reset it in the future, or better yet, just do maintenance as required. Anything additional is money flushed down the toilet.
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Old Oct 28, 2014 | 11:53 AM
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Agreed - why are you changing out the oil early?
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Old Oct 28, 2014 | 01:48 PM
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While I didn't address it initially, the OP's comment about "Now, because the car is under warranty, I'd like to get all the warranty that is provided..." really needs addressing.

Ton enjoy the benefits of your warranty, you need to show that required maintenance was completed. Acura makes that easy with the maintenance minder.

Under normal conditions, your services will be about 7k miles apart, bith the first one being an A1 (oil change and tire rotation) and the second being the B1 (oil change, a handful of checks [cabin filter? - I don't have the schedule handy] and a tire rotation.

You reset the system at 4k miles, so the next service (B1)will pop up at about 11k miles but it really isn't due until about 13 or 14k miles.

You have a couple of simple choices:

Do an oil change at 7k miles and keep a record (with receipts for oils and filters) for your warranty purposes. Don't reset anything. Delay the B1 service until about 13k miles (you'll be looking at the light for 2k miles), keep a record as above detailing your checks and purchases and reset the system.

You'll be on-track thereafter.

The other choice is to get the B1 done when the system asks for it at 11k miles and do every subsequent service those 3 to 4k miles early.

In the future (for the OP and others), if you really feel like wasting money then do an out of sequence oil change but resist the temptation to reset the system.
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Old Oct 28, 2014 | 01:56 PM
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dude just probably fucked up his car.



you know there's a special additive in break in-oil?


also, with today's advancement in oils, most conventional oil is classified as GRP III oils, which are blends of oils.

modern conventional oil can last longer than 4000 miles, as its a blend of a synthesized oil and conventional.
this is why most off the shelf oils are marketed as "synthetic"

so,is fucking up the MID rotation intervals and wasting $$ worth changing the oil early????


HELL TO THE NO!
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Old Oct 28, 2014 | 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by justnspace
dude just probably fucked up his car.



you know there's a special additive in break in-oil?


also, with today's advancement in oils, most conventional oil is classified as GRP III oils, which are blends of oils.

modern conventional oil can last longer than 4000 miles, as its a blend of a synthesized oil and conventional.
this is why most off the shelf oils are marketed as "synthetic"

so,is fucking up the MID rotation intervals and wasting $$ worth changing the oil early????


HELL TO THE NO!
Don't scare the poor fellow - his car will be fine.

But you do bring up a good point that many people overlook - modern oils will easily last 25k miles without serious issues.

Most owners kept their cars 3 years or about 30k miles in 2003. That peaked in 2011 at a hair under 6 years and has been going back down again since then.

The truth is that if you did an oil change every 25k miles or so, you'd probably do 2 or three oil changes while you owned the car but we've been conditioned by Iffy Lube that we need to change the oil every 3k miles. That's what your dad's Oldsmobile needed in the 40's but hasn't been true since the first bottle of synthetic rolled off the line.

Doing more frequent oil changes will NOT help your car. It will only deplete natural resources and the contents of your wallet.
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Old Oct 28, 2014 | 03:00 PM
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I was a bit dramatic, only to make a point.


i hope the point is clear. lol
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Old Oct 28, 2014 | 04:54 PM
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OP here.

While I enjoy polarized, no-holds-barred, mash-your-face opinions just as much as the next guy, I thought the commentary on this thread was a bit too over the top to take verbatim.

I laughed especially hard at justnspace's comment that basically says I fucked up my car because I changed the oil a bit early.

So I called the dealer, and confirmed that 1) oil changes are not covered under warranty, and so I did not waste money on the oil change, and that 2) although I reset the indicator, it doesn't matter and I can just go in at 4500-5000 miles and the service is covered under warranty.

So, all is well.
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Old Oct 28, 2014 | 05:01 PM
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Old Oct 28, 2014 | 05:13 PM
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Clean oil is essential to the engine running healthy for a long time, nothing wrong with changing the oil every 5,000 miles, even if the oil can still protect the engine it will get dirty anyway. For those saying keep the oil in there for 25k, you must be looking to screwing up you car, or you're just plain cheap and stupid.
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Old Oct 28, 2014 | 05:18 PM
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<-------7000 mile interval here according to the MID on my 2006 TL
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Old Oct 28, 2014 | 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by ceb
Don't scare the poor fellow - his car will be fine.

But you do bring up a good point that many people overlook - modern oils will easily last 25k miles without serious issues.

Most owners kept their cars 3 years or about 30k miles in 2003. That peaked in 2011 at a hair under 6 years and has been going back down again since then.

The truth is that if you did an oil change every 25k miles or so, you'd probably do 2 or three oil changes while you owned the car but we've been conditioned by Iffy Lube that we need to change the oil every 3k miles. That's what your dad's Oldsmobile needed in the 40's but hasn't been true since the first bottle of synthetic rolled off the line.

Doing more frequent oil changes will NOT help your car. It will only deplete natural resources and the contents of your wallet.
There are what, maybe two oils out there that say they go 25,000 miles, and I don't believe either claim. You act like just about every oil you buy can go that long, when it is something very rare.

A good synthetic can typically go 10-15,000 miles, but this should really be confirmed by a UOA, before pushing an oil that far.
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Old Oct 28, 2014 | 07:02 PM
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even UOA's are not acurate!

Oxidation shows up as wear metals in the test. So if the oil cleans well, such as Mobil 1 0w-40, you will see higher wear metals, specifically iron.
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Old Oct 28, 2014 | 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by pozix604
OP here.

While I enjoy polarized, no-holds-barred, mash-your-face opinions just as much as the next guy, I thought the commentary on this thread was a bit too over the top to take verbatim.

I laughed especially hard at justnspace's comment that basically says I fucked up my car because I changed the oil a bit early.

So I called the dealer, and confirmed that 1) oil changes are not covered under warranty, and so I did not waste money on the oil change, and that 2) although I reset the indicator, it doesn't matter and I can just go in at 4500-5000 miles and the service is covered under warranty.

So, all is well.
Services are NOT paid for by warranty. I am totally confused by your last statement that " I can just go in at 4500-5000 miles and the service is covered under warranty."
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Old Oct 28, 2014 | 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by justnspace
even UOA's are not acurate!

Oxidation shows up as wear metals in the test. So if the oil cleans well, such as Mobil 1 0w-40, you will see higher wear metals, specifically iron.
A UOA will at least tell you if you have fuel dilution and how quickly your TBN will drop based on how you drive. You really should do 2-3 of them before blindly going 15,000 miles on your oil.

I have never heard of oxidation showing up as wear metals in a UOA, however, oxidation does show up as an increase in TAN and a drop in TBN. You can also tell how quickly your oil shears and is breaking down, with a UOA. If your oil is shearing and oxidizing, the TBN drops and the TAN rises, decreasing the ability of your oil to protect the metal parts in your engine, therefore metal wear increases and the amount of metal in your UOA increases.

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Old Oct 28, 2014 | 07:17 PM
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There are what, maybe two oils out there that say they go 25,000 miles, and I don't believe either claim. You act like just about every oil you buy can go that long, when it is something very rare.

A good synthetic can typically go 10-15,000 miles, but this should really be confirmed by a UOA, before pushing an oil that far.
I never advocated going 25k miles between oil changes. What I said was that you could go 25k miles without serious issues and that you won't run into lubrication related issues while you own the car for the 3 or 4 years that you'll own it.

I always advocate following the manufacturer's recommendations far as services are concerned.
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Old Oct 28, 2014 | 07:32 PM
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I never advocated going 25k miles between oil changes. What I said was that you could go 25k miles without serious issues and that you won't run into lubrication related issues while you own the car for the 3 or 4 years that you'll own it.

I always advocate following the manufacturer's recommendations far as services are concerned.
I doubt you "could" go 25,000 miles between oil changes without serious issues. You "could" easily be running 1-2 quarts low and have sludge build up well before then (most likely). Also, you "could" have some serious problems and just not know it yet.
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Old Oct 28, 2014 | 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by hondu

I have never heard of oxidation showing up as wear metals in a UOA, however, oxidation does show up as an increase in TAN and a drop in TBN. You can also tell how quickly your oil shears and is breaking down, with a UOA. If your oil is shearing and oxidizing, the TBN drops and the TAN rises, decreasing the ability of your oil to protect the metal parts in your engine, therefore metal wear increases and the amount of metal in your UOA increases.
If oxidation shows up as an increase in TAN and a decrease in TBN, then your shear test is invalid.

As Mobil 1 0w-40 cleans well.
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Old Oct 28, 2014 | 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by justnspace
If oxidation shows up as an increase in TAN and a decrease in TBN, then your shear test is invalid.
Huh? Uh, no, it is not. I'm not talking about a shear test, I'm saying that your oil shears as it ages/oxidizes and the viscosity goes down. It is a viscosity test.

You are posting a lot of random non-sense.

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