Closest vehicle to RDX specs that is not luxury (no it's not the CRV)
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Most likely because Toyota is not getting a high profit margin on the Venza (thus the value proposition of the Venza). It's unfortunate if they discontinue it because now people will be stuck with choosing a Rav4 (very cheaply built car, got one as a rental before) and an expensive Toyota Highlander (top trim more expensive than RDX Elite!)
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Probably had nothing to do with profit margin. The Venza is an odd / unique vehicle as it isn't a sedan, (but is built on the Camry chassis) and it isn't an SUV. It never really caught on with the buying public which I believe killed it.
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The Venza is a crossover, it's slightly bigger than the RDX. Great vehicle with a 268 horsepower V6 and 20 inch wheels
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C'mon let's be serious here. Rocky wouldn't drive or own a Toyota because they take too long to service - according to him.
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For a non-luxury vehicle, the Venza accelerates very fast, drives much better than a minivan. It has 268 horsepower and available 20 inch tires, much more than many competitors who offer only 4 cylinder engines. Yeah, the Subaru Outback and Forester are other decent non-luxury vehicles.
#22
no one cross shops high end Merc's with the RDX, no one cross shops the Venza, ESPECIALLY when it's being discontinued.
plus, you have the elite, where you can pull mad fine hunniez. better fill up with costco gas and get some costco slacks!
plus, you have the elite, where you can pull mad fine hunniez. better fill up with costco gas and get some costco slacks!
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Another one is the Hyundai Tuscon. Yes, it is a 4 banger, but option wise the Ultimate level meets, or beats the RDX even at the Advance level. One of the only standard CUV's out there with available ventilated seats
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I owned a 6 cyl venza and currently own a '16 RDX advance. The interior of the venza gave new meaning to cheap. I do not think toyota could have founder cheaper, harder plastics to use in the car if they wanted to (i.e. classic toyota interior). It was larger than the RDX and roomier. The ride was a little smoother even with the standard 20 inch rims. Like the RDX, it was a 2 ton soccer mom vehicle with electronic steering - not a formula one machine. There was a big difference in drivetrain:
RDX:
6 cyl
timing belt (requiring changes)
SOHC with VVT - power kicks in about 5000 rpm I'm told (haven't pushed mine that far)
6 speed tranny requiring first flush at 25k miles then additional flushes
recommended fuel - 91 octane
Added: the venza was also a
Venza:
6 cyl
timing chain
DOHC - excellent power throughout entire rpm range not just once VVT kicks in
6 speed tranny with permanent tranny fluid (doesn't need to be changed)
recommended fuel - 87 octane
IMHO (just mine, no need to trash me) the venza was overall a better car with a cheaper interior. My wife wanted an RDX for her birthday thus we got rid of the venza.
Added: the venza was also a FAR quieter car while the RDX (like the typical honda product) has some road noise and a lot of wind noise.
RDX:
6 cyl
timing belt (requiring changes)
SOHC with VVT - power kicks in about 5000 rpm I'm told (haven't pushed mine that far)
6 speed tranny requiring first flush at 25k miles then additional flushes
recommended fuel - 91 octane
Added: the venza was also a
Venza:
6 cyl
timing chain
DOHC - excellent power throughout entire rpm range not just once VVT kicks in
6 speed tranny with permanent tranny fluid (doesn't need to be changed)
recommended fuel - 87 octane
IMHO (just mine, no need to trash me) the venza was overall a better car with a cheaper interior. My wife wanted an RDX for her birthday thus we got rid of the venza.
Added: the venza was also a FAR quieter car while the RDX (like the typical honda product) has some road noise and a lot of wind noise.
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This is all you needed to say........... Happy Wife = Happy Life. However, do appreciate your comments on your ownership experience with your Venza.
My wife wanted an RDX as well and so we have a 2016 in the garage. She actually came from a Lexus ES350, which I believe had the same 3.5L V6 as the Venza. In terms of timing belts and other maintenance items, I take care of all that (some DIY, some @ independent Honda mechanic I found). She loves her RDX
My wife wanted an RDX as well and so we have a 2016 in the garage. She actually came from a Lexus ES350, which I believe had the same 3.5L V6 as the Venza. In terms of timing belts and other maintenance items, I take care of all that (some DIY, some @ independent Honda mechanic I found). She loves her RDX
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When I was replacing my 2008 Lexus RX-350, I did not like the styling (grill) of the new RX-350. I looked at the Venza and the materials & fit/finish were as nice as the Lexus. Same reliable engine and transmission, and both easy to work on for required maintenance. I did not go for the Venza because to get the V-6 you have to take 20" tires and wheels. I was not going to sacrifice ride quality for minimal handling benefit. The 2013 Acura RDX had the V-6 and 18" wheels and tires that gave the ride I was looking for. Both cars will deliver on quality and reliability. The KIA Sorrento is another vehicle that has quality, ride comfort, and a great V-6. Get by the stigma of owning a KIA, and it is a nice car. All my friends that own one are happy with them. They ride as good as the Lexus RX-350.
I have just traded the RDX for a Porsche Macan base model with the 4 cylinder turbo used on the Audi's and VW's. Not all the bells and whistles as the Acura, but I do love the Apple CarPlay on the Porsche. No need for factory navigation. It has 18" wheels and tires, so the ride is smooth, yet will still out handle the RDX. Stickered at $55K and bought for $51K. A little more than an RDX ($10K) but I'm spending it before the kids get it.
I have just traded the RDX for a Porsche Macan base model with the 4 cylinder turbo used on the Audi's and VW's. Not all the bells and whistles as the Acura, but I do love the Apple CarPlay on the Porsche. No need for factory navigation. It has 18" wheels and tires, so the ride is smooth, yet will still out handle the RDX. Stickered at $55K and bought for $51K. A little more than an RDX ($10K) but I'm spending it before the kids get it.
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#34
Ha, ha. Yes, I joined two of them just to see what other owners have done for maintenance and mods. They are a different breed...........kind of like "know-it-alls" if you ask a question that has already been addressed in another thread. In the end, we are all "car people". Notice how I didn't say "car guys"? I am becoming very PC now.
#35
Yes, it has a similar dash and console (center stack) as their other models. Seats are leather and alcantara. I just couldn't go with a 2017 RDX. It looked to similar, inside and out, to my 2013. It would be like dating my wife's twin sister. How exciting would that be???
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When I was replacing my 2008 Lexus RX-350, I did not like the styling (grill) of the new RX-350. I looked at the Venza and the materials & fit/finish were as nice as the Lexus. Same reliable engine and transmission, and both easy to work on for required maintenance. I did not go for the Venza because to get the V-6 you have to take 20" tires and wheels. I was not going to sacrifice ride quality for minimal handling benefit. The 2013 Acura RDX had the V-6 and 18" wheels and tires that gave the ride I was looking for. Both cars will deliver on quality and reliability. The KIA Sorrento is another vehicle that has quality, ride comfort, and a great V-6. Get by the stigma of owning a KIA, and it is a nice car. All my friends that own one are happy with them. They ride as good as the Lexus RX-350.
I have just traded the RDX for a Porsche Macan base model with the 4 cylinder turbo used on the Audi's and VW's. Not all the bells and whistles as the Acura, but I do love the Apple CarPlay on the Porsche. No need for factory navigation. It has 18" wheels and tires, so the ride is smooth, yet will still out handle the RDX. Stickered at $55K and bought for $51K. A little more than an RDX ($10K) but I'm spending it before the kids get it.
I have just traded the RDX for a Porsche Macan base model with the 4 cylinder turbo used on the Audi's and VW's. Not all the bells and whistles as the Acura, but I do love the Apple CarPlay on the Porsche. No need for factory navigation. It has 18" wheels and tires, so the ride is smooth, yet will still out handle the RDX. Stickered at $55K and bought for $51K. A little more than an RDX ($10K) but I'm spending it before the kids get it.
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I owned a 6 cyl venza and currently own a '16 RDX advance. The interior of the venza gave new meaning to cheap. I do not think toyota could have founder cheaper, harder plastics to use in the car if they wanted to (i.e. classic toyota interior). It was larger than the RDX and roomier. The ride was a little smoother even with the standard 20 inch rims. Like the RDX, it was a 2 ton soccer mom vehicle with electronic steering - not a formula one machine. There was a big difference in drivetrain:
R
6 cyl
timing belt (requiring changes)
SOHC with VVT - power kicks in about 5000 rpm I'm told (haven't pushed mine that far)
6 speed tranny requiring first flush at 25k miles then additional flushes
recommended fuel - 91 octane
Added: the venza was also a
Venza:
6 cyl
timing chain
DOHC - excellent power throughout entire rpm range not just once VVT kicks in
6 speed tranny with permanent tranny fluid (doesn't need to be changed)
recommended fuel - 87 octane
IMHO (just mine, no need to trash me) the venza was overall a better car with a cheaper interior. My wife wanted an RDX for her birthday thus we got rid of the venza.
Added: the venza was also a FAR quieter car while the RDX (like the typical honda product) has some road noise and a lot of wind noise.
R
6 cyl
timing belt (requiring changes)
SOHC with VVT - power kicks in about 5000 rpm I'm told (haven't pushed mine that far)
6 speed tranny requiring first flush at 25k miles then additional flushes
recommended fuel - 91 octane
Added: the venza was also a
Venza:
6 cyl
timing chain
DOHC - excellent power throughout entire rpm range not just once VVT kicks in
6 speed tranny with permanent tranny fluid (doesn't need to be changed)
recommended fuel - 87 octane
IMHO (just mine, no need to trash me) the venza was overall a better car with a cheaper interior. My wife wanted an RDX for her birthday thus we got rid of the venza.
Added: the venza was also a FAR quieter car while the RDX (like the typical honda product) has some road noise and a lot of wind noise.