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Old Jun 13, 2012 | 01:12 AM
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Brake Pad - Break-in Period

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Is there a break-in period for the brake pad? The reason that I asked is because I feel my brake is not as good as the one that I test drove at the dealership. Also, I will hear a sound when I release the brake pad. The sound is like when you fully stop a car in a uphill or downhill and release the brake.
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Old Jun 13, 2012 | 07:28 AM
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not really a break in period perse


but there is a bed in process. which likely, the car manufacture or dealer has already performed.

bedding in procedure:
do a couple of 60-10 stops, without coming to a complete stop each time.
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Old Jun 13, 2012 | 10:58 AM
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Im about 1300kms in and getting brake squeak at slow speed / light touch. Been very gentle with them too.

Seems early to have calipre / pad vibrations. Going to wait a another 1000 kms or so to see if it goes away.
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Old Jun 13, 2012 | 12:33 PM
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I'm getting occasional squeak at low speed as well - at less than 1500 miles. It hasn't seemed to actually have a negative effect on stopping power but it definitely is an unpleasant sound for a brand new vehicle.
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Old Jun 13, 2012 | 12:35 PM
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needs lube if squeaks
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Old Jun 13, 2012 | 06:10 PM
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Honda took alot of grief (and a class action lawsuit) from owners of 2008+ accords and tsx's over early (inner) rear pad wear. Some of it was assembly line error involving the caliper pin but the design also had a problem involving rear bias to minimize the nose diving on hard stops. They put out a retrofit with a simple spring to keep pressure off the pads and went to a different pad material on the rear. I would think they have learned their lesson on new models. Yoyc - I would have the noise checked by the dealer as that is atypical. Low speed squeaking may be more common and related to the pad material.
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Old Jun 13, 2012 | 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Dorsey
Honda took alot of grief (and a class action lawsuit) from owners of 2008+ accords and tsx's over early (inner) rear pad wear. Some of it was assembly line error involving the caliper pin but the design also had a problem involving rear bias to minimize the nose diving on hard stops. They put out a retrofit with a simple spring to keep pressure off the pads and went to a different pad material on the rear. I would think they have learned their lesson on new models. Yoyc - I would have the noise checked by the dealer as that is atypical. Low speed squeaking may be more common and related to the pad material.
Im going to give it another 1000 or so KMs before going in for the brake squeak. Typically I know it's due to pad vibration and requires lube to secure it against the calipre better... Definitely LAME for a new car, especially an acura.
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Old Jun 13, 2012 | 08:20 PM
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Just curious...does this occur when you apply light pressure? My TSX was like that and turns out they had a recall on the pads (and rotors) because the material used to make the pads were to blame....
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Old Jun 13, 2012 | 11:14 PM
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Just curious...does this occur when you apply light pressure? My TSX was like that and turns out they had a recall on the pads (and rotors) because the material used to make the pads were to blame....
Yes, only at slow speeds (like 20km/hr) and under light pressure.

Anyone experiencing this?

So far only heard of 2 ppl
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Old Jun 14, 2012 | 02:40 AM
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I don't have any squeak noise so far for my brake. Actually my problem is not pressing the brake and is more releasing the brake. For example, I was holding the brake when my car is fully stop at a red light, then release the brake and started to accelerate. This is where the noise occur. I guess I am the only one have this problem so far.
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Old Jun 14, 2012 | 07:38 AM
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Have it checked as it is not normal. It could be a number of things other than the brakes including something rolling around under seats/in back or a bad drive axle or suspension bushing.
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Old Jun 14, 2012 | 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Cablerat
Yes, only at slow speeds (like 20km/hr) and under light pressure.

Anyone experiencing this?

So far only heard of 2 ppl
It will be interesting to see if this is an isolted event or more RDX will get that problem...could be the same thing that led the TSX to have a TSB issued. Time will tell....

yojcboy...that is not normal from how you describe...I would stop by the dealer and it checked.
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Old Jun 14, 2012 | 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by weather
It will be interesting to see if this is an isolted event or more RDX will get that problem...could be the same thing that led the TSX to have a TSB issued. Time will tell....

yojcboy...that is not normal from how you describe...I would stop by the dealer and it checked.
Thanks weather. I may just drive another 1000 km before I bring the car to the dealership.
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Old Jun 20, 2012 | 09:10 AM
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I brought the RDX in to my dealer this morning (1900 miles) because I'm getting occasional squeak from what appears to be right-front brake after driving for a while and breaking at low speeds while turning. The tech couldn't duplicate the problem so I drove to work without incident until I was literally pulling into my parking spot and it happened again.

It seems to be when I'm cutting the wheel substantially and after car is hot.

Anyone else run into anything like this?
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Old Jun 20, 2012 | 09:59 AM
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Nothing on my end so far.....But I'll keep an ear out (not literally of course)
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Old Jul 25, 2012 | 11:05 AM
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My old problem hasn't been resolved yet and now I have another problem regarding the brake. I get a high pinch sound from my brake every morning when I first drive my car as well as after I park my car for a couple of hours.

Is this the same problem as other people mentioned above?
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Old Jul 25, 2012 | 11:39 AM
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I have my RDX at the dealer right now because of the squeal coming from the front brakes. Initially they couldn't duplicate but they finally heard it and are replacing the front pads under warranty. My issue appears to be when the car is hot (after driving for 15+ minutes and especially in any sort of stop and go type conditions).

If the problem you're having is when the vehicle is cold it might be small rust deposits building up but that shouldn't happen on a regular basis.
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Old Jul 25, 2012 | 11:56 AM
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I have two issues regarding my brake right now. The first one is like when the car is fully stop, then the noise will come out when I release the brake, is more like you fully stop your car on a downhill and release the brake. The second issue is the high pinch sound when I drive the car in the morning....Anyway, I will bring my car to the dealer this week and hoping they can fix the problem.
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Old Jul 25, 2012 | 01:06 PM
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It takes about 100 miles to fully seat new brake pads and rotors. Stomping on the brakes early will not help the process. Of course, in an emergency stop it could not be helped.
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Old Jul 25, 2012 | 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by fleuger99
It takes about 100 miles to fully seat new brake pads and rotors. Stomping on the brakes early will not help the process. Of course, in an emergency stop it could not be helped.
And Acura recommends to go easy on the brakes for the first 200 miles.
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Old Jul 25, 2012 | 06:05 PM
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I drive like an old man and go very easy on the brake. I have 2200 km on the mileage right now, the first issue of the sound didn't go away and the second issue of the sound just started few days ago. I think this is not right.
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Old Jul 27, 2012 | 06:43 PM
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Hey guys,

I just want to post an upate regarding my brake issue. I finally got my car into the dealerhsip today. The stupid technician test drove my car and told me the noise is normal. I told him this is definitely not normal to me and it happend to my 04 TSX in the past. Then he took the car in to service the brake and machine all 4 rotors including both front & rear. For my understanding, the rotor can only mahcine once and need to replace it if it happens again. I am not very happy about machine my rotor on a new car with 2000 km. I rather would like them to replace a new rotor instead.

Any thoughts?
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Old Jul 27, 2012 | 08:42 PM
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yojcboy....Ohhh, I am not sure I would have liked to have my rotors turned so early in the ownership either. To me, if they say it was normal, then why need to machine the rotors so early on? Not sure what you can do now that its done. Did the problem get resolved by machining them though?
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Old Jul 27, 2012 | 09:24 PM
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Had this happen on my previous car, which likely sat on the dealer lot for two months, with the rotors rusting. They also machined them, easy fix for them, but you did lose out since the next time the brakes require service, you need to buy rotors. I'd try and talk to the dealer, or Acura directly, see if there is any recourse.
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Old Jul 28, 2012 | 07:48 AM
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If they needed to machine them, they should've been replaced under warranty.
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Old Jul 28, 2012 | 12:14 PM
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Mine still has brake squeak when slowing down at slow speeds, but only when i havent driven the car for several hours. Ie morning start, leaving work.
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Old Jul 28, 2012 | 01:06 PM
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yojcboy....Ohhh, I am not sure I would have liked to have my rotors turned so early in the ownership either. To me, if they say it was normal, then why need to machine the rotors so early on? Not sure what you can do now that its done. Did the problem get resolved by machining them though?
Hi weather,

I picked up the car after work today and the sound is still there. I test drove with the technician again and he said the same shit to me again "this is normal". I told them if this is normal why you machined all 4 rotors without fixing the problem. I told them I need to replace all 4 new rotors & pads otherwise I will esculate this to Acura Canada.

Does anyone know what is the process like? Are they supposed to inform the customer before they fix anything? In the past, the service advisor will investigate the problem and call me before they go ahead to do anything.
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Old Jul 28, 2012 | 01:13 PM
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yojcboy.....That would annoy me even more! The fact that they machine ALL 4 ROTORS and the problem is still there and says the noise that you were hearing before and after being machined is normal! OH BOY.....I'd be swearing up and down in French!

I would push to have them give you new rotors...I think its only fair as they have "thinned" them out for no valid reason. I could see if they were pulsating or vibrating but to not solve any problem, I'd be pissed.

As I stated earlier, my TSX (2009) had a similar "squealing" issue under light brake pressure and turns out the pads were eventually recalled and all pads and rotors were replaced under warranty. They said the pad supplier used material that made them prone to squealing and this could be a similar situation.....

Good luck and keep us posted.

Cablerat....I would be cautious about trying to get yours done given what they did to yojcboy's RDX. I'd put up with the noise until we see if a recall is issued
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Old Jul 29, 2012 | 10:31 PM
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Use your phone or something and record it and bring it to the dealer.. i had to do that to my tsx brakes, it makes random sound and never at the dealer
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I too am experiencing squeaking brakes at light pressure. Seems like every time I get annoyed to the point of calling the dealer, the noise stops for a day or two, then starts up again. Will call the dealer this week and see what they say.
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Use your phone or something and record it and bring it to the dealer.. i had to do that to my tsx brakes, it makes random sound and never at the dealer
I did just that - I ended up having to leave the RDX at the dealer for 3 days and the service manager only heard the squeel on the 2nd day. They replaced front brake pads under warranty and I had a loaner the whole time. Though I did bring it in for this very issue a month before and they didnt see/hear anything, but I was in and out within 45 minutes the first time.
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Old Aug 1, 2012 | 02:04 PM
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The dealer told me that they have passed this issue to the Acura Canada tech line and they were told that this is normal. I am complaining about the service adivsor should inform me before they machine the rotors. She told me that this is under warranty, so they dont need to tell customer before they do it. This is really pissed me off now!
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If the rotors are broken why machine them? That isn't a warranty procedure as far as I'm aware.
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Old Aug 1, 2012 | 02:53 PM
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yojcboy....I agree with QN52. If there was nothing wrong with your rotors (as they claim its normal) then why have them machined? I would ask your service adviser if Acura encourages the dealers to do unnecessary warranty work? After all, Acura Acura is paying the dealership for the service they did on your RDX even though they claim there was nothing wrong with them.....see where I am going with this
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Old Aug 1, 2012 | 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by weather
yojcboy....I agree with QN52. If there was nothing wrong with your rotors (as they claim its normal) then why have them machined? I would ask your service adviser if Acura encourages the dealers to do unnecessary warranty work? After all, Acura Acura is paying the dealership for the service they did on your RDX even though they claim there was nothing wrong with them.....see where I am going with this
Yes, I know what you are saying. I am very upset with the dealer because I noticed there is a new noise appear on my driver rear wheel now. The noise is like something hitting the brake disc or wheel. I am not sure what kind of noise but is like a metal noise. I am trying to esculate this issue to Acura Canada now but I dont see any email contact on the Acura Canada.
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http://acura.ca/contact_us

Can always contact better business bureau also
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Old Aug 1, 2012 | 04:11 PM
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I have just called and the lady who answered the phone told me they have to support what the mechanic said....WTF!!!
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I have just called and the lady who answered the phone told me they have to support what the mechanic said....WTF!!!
I would call again and ask to speak to a supervisor.

Good luck, Jim
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Hmm..either the squeals are gone or people are waiting to get to their dealers but I just posted the same complaint on my new RDX FWD..early morning braking causing squeal/ squeak which goes away during the day..dealer said its normal - really?
Only thing I can think of is I washed the car after a long road trip and its been noticable since..not sure if soap residue could be to blame .. but should have got worn out in few days?
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I will occasionally notice squeaks coming from the brakes on my TL Type S in the mornings. The stock Brembo brake pads are notorious for brake dust. I think the pad cools down and the dust settles in overnight and causes squeaks in the morning. If I start to notice a squeak, I will clean them with high pressure wash to stop the squeaking.

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