2.0 turbo to return in 2016?

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Dec 27, 2013 | 07:44 AM
  #1  
http://wot.motortrend.com/1311_honda...ic_type_r.html

I'm just speculating but does anyone else on here hope to see honda's new 2.0 Turbo with "at least" 280hp become an engine option in the RDX for the mid-cycle refresh?

Quote from article:
"The turbo 2.0-liter I-4 will make more than 280 hp, Honda says, which could make it a good fit for a 2015 Honda Accord V-6 replacement or even a 2015 or 2016 Acura TLX. At first, the engine will be put to use in a European-market Honda Civic Type R, pictured here. A high-performance cooling system is also part of the engine package, which could even work in a future Acura RDX."

We currently own a 2010 TSX and I've been waiting for something more exciting in the RDX whether it be hybrid/diesel/or now even a turbo. I'd be one of the first in line if they offered a high performance 2.0 turbo with more torque then the current V6 and if it could get 30mpg highway that match my TSX. I'd imagine buyers would pay a $2-3k premium.

Thoughts?
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Dec 27, 2013 | 03:50 PM
  #2  
Its possible that Acura would consider bringing back the turbo on the RDX but my git feeling tells me they will keep this V6 for the remainder of the 2G and likely the 3G as well. They just removed the turbo out of the RDX and would make them look like they are flip flopping if they did.

My git feeling is that the TLX and the ILX will be the first to see the turbo.....likely as the FMC for the ILX and maybe the MMC for the TLX. This is purely speculation though.
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Dec 27, 2013 | 05:42 PM
  #3  
I'd rather see them supercharge the V6.
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Dec 27, 2013 | 07:56 PM
  #4  
there are quite a few unhappy first gen owners for the turbo RDX needing to do major (Read quoted $7K+ repairs around 100K miles) not to mention crap gas mileage due to tiny motor pulling one very large mass...

Quote: I'd rather see them supercharge the V6.
or spend the effort in a J pipe and other measures to free up HP, Blowers are not cheap
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Dec 27, 2013 | 09:32 PM
  #5  
Quote: I'm just speculating but does anyone else on here hope to see honda's new 2.0 Turbo with "at least" 280hp become an engine option in the RDX for the mid-cycle refresh?
Not me. I have no desire for a turbo 4 in an SUV.

I never understood using it for the first gen RDX. Obviously I was not the only one who did not see any advantage over a smooth V-6.
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Dec 28, 2013 | 06:43 PM
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Quote: Not me. I have no desire for a turbo 4 in an SUV.

I never understood using it for the first gen RDX. Obviously I was not the only one who did not see any advantage over a smooth V-6.
Very true, and "boy racer" as it was with the surging turbo, the 3.5L V6 in newer RDX's is incredibly smoother, more potent, gets much higher mileage, and is stronger throughout the rev band start to finish.

Turbos can be fun, but the RDX is a premium vehicle with the powerful and efficient V6 as is.
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Dec 28, 2013 | 06:52 PM
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Turbos can be fun, but the RDX is a premium vehicle with the powerful and efficient V6 as is.
and thats why all the Tier 1 brands still have their v8's and are going forced induced??


Acura is late in the game.
like always.


look at ford and their amazing ecoboost.
yet, they still have the muscle.


even the new 328i's with the 2.0 turbo are solid machines..
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Dec 28, 2013 | 09:32 PM
  #8  
Quote: and thats why all the Tier 1 brands still have their v8's and are going forced induced??


Acura is late in the game.
like always.


look at ford and their amazing ecoboost.
yet, they still have the muscle.


even the new 328i's with the 2.0 turbo are solid machines..
Late to the game and kicking ass in the fuel economy department with a V6. I'll take the V6 thank you.
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Dec 29, 2013 | 01:36 PM
  #9  
Quote: Late to the game and kicking ass in the fuel economy department with a V6. I'll take the V6 thank you.
Agreed, my 2.0T in my ford escape is a blast to drive, but the MPG's around town suck 13-18 mpg, but I can get close to 30 mpg n the hwy.
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Dec 29, 2013 | 05:56 PM
  #10  
I have both RDX's and the V6 is such an improvement in all ways (power, smoothness, and gas mileage), why would anyone want the turbo again. The new V6 is simply Fantastic. BTW, I heard the turbos have been bulletproof and I was not aware of engine issues.
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Dec 30, 2013 | 08:05 AM
  #11  
I understand all the comments on the previous generation's 2.3 liter turbo engine and it's lack of smoothness and worse mpg.

Maybe I"m in the small minority that thinks Honda may have learned alot from that engine and greatly improved upon it. I do think the V6 is a big improvement on the old turbo. But is it possible that since 2006 and the 8 years that have passed from when this engine will hit production that they have made significant engineering/efficiently imporovements? I don't think Honda will miss the mark with this new 2.0 turbo and according to the articles on it, turbos and DI are the way this company is heading.

I think they have come close to maxing out the J-series engine in terms of both fuel economy and power with VCM and DI.

I would welcome the redtop 2.0 turbo with 280+hp and 8-speed DCT in my next vehicle (RDX, TLX, ect.). I'd imagine we'd be talking about a faster RDX that got 30mpg highway as well if it gets this engine. Time will tell, maybe they will just keep this future engine as the top choice in the Civic type R, TLX or ILX.
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Dec 30, 2013 | 08:33 AM
  #12  
Yes, I would love to see the 2.0T in both the new TLX and in the RDX along with the Advanced trim.....I would buy it tomorrow!

Come on Acura, listen to your faithful customers or you may lose them to the competition. I have spent a lot of time this past year checking out the competition, more so than any previous years as Acura has not delivered a product I want at this point. A four cylinder turbo option in the TLX and RDX (with Advance trim) would have my immediate attention!
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Dec 30, 2013 | 07:08 PM
  #13  
Just a quick thought. My friend had the 13 Q5 2.0 turbo and that engine is not nearly as quiet or smooth as my RDX V6. The V6 is simply a nice engine and I would not want the turbo again.
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Dec 31, 2013 | 10:17 PM
  #14  
Personally I very much doubt that Acura will make a switch mid stream from a V6 to a 4cyl Turbo. MAYBE they switch to the ED V6, but until the next FMC, which is years away, I doubt this will happen.
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Jan 1, 2014 | 08:46 AM
  #15  
I am with what ^^ said although I don't have an issue with bringing the turbo to some vehicles. I am not sure the RDX would be the vehicle I would see though. I oculd see a turbo on the ILX and the TLX and possibly if they slided a sub CUV compact below the RDX down the road.
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Jan 1, 2014 | 08:50 AM
  #16  
Yes, based upon Acura's past record, I would say that s most likely. The question I really want the answer to is what is Honda doing in the ED engines to prevent carbon build up which is a problem in most DI engines?
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Jan 1, 2014 | 06:40 PM
  #17  
Quote: I am with what ^^ said although I don't have an issue with bringing the turbo to some vehicles. I am not sure the RDX would be the vehicle I would see though. I oculd see a turbo on the ILX and the TLX and possibly if they slided a sub CUV compact below the RDX down the road.
They are already testing the 1.5L Turbo in an ILX and that might be a compelling enough combo to see that at an MMC. If they build an Acura version of the Vezel it would not surprise me to see that with a turbo. And I hope the base TLX will get the 2.0L T, but if there are options I want that I can only get with the V6 I'm happy to go there too. How great will it be to have options.

Quote: Yes, based upon Acura's past record, I would say that s most likely. The question I really want the answer to is what is Honda doing in the ED engines to prevent carbon build up which is a problem in most DI engines?
I think we all want to know this. But we somehow seem to have some unfounded trust that they have figured it out. Not sure if that is wise or not. But I'd buy one.
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Jan 1, 2014 | 06:59 PM
  #18  
Quote: I think we all want to know this. But we somehow seem to have some unfounded trust that they have figured it out. Not sure if that is wise or not. But I'd buy one.
Exactly. Seeing how they went DI on the Accord and civic, the two volume models for the masses, you would think the worlds best and biggest engine company has this figured out
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Jan 12, 2014 | 02:49 PM
  #19  
I recall reading that Honda will offer a 2.0L turbo for the yet-to-be-released US version of the Vezel (Urban SUV concept). I really hope so, as it would make for a great little AWD to replace my old Subaru Impreza Outback Sport.
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Jan 12, 2014 | 06:58 PM
  #20  
the solution to DI is intake cleaning every x miles
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Jan 12, 2014 | 07:04 PM
  #21  
Quote: the solution to DI is intake cleaning every x miles
For "some" manufacturers, but not all. GM, Ford, some lexus do not seem to have this problem.

So what are you saying, that any DI motor will have this issue and we should stay away?

I know it has been a real problem for Audi and BMW and some lexus/Toyota.

I cannot believe that Honda would put out a product that requires fairly major servicing every xx miles....ain't gonna happen.
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Jan 12, 2014 | 08:55 PM
  #22  
Quote: the solution to DI is intake cleaning every x miles
Apparently adding an oil catch can is a big help, and using a quality gas with detergents like Shell.

We probably won't see any issues with carbon build up on these engines for a year or so. If Honda has the same issues that Audi (for example) had it could be bad for them. So I assume they have addressed this in the engineering. Still taking precautions may be a good investment for owners of new DI engines.
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