2.0 turbo to return in 2016?
2.0 turbo to return in 2016?
http://wot.motortrend.com/1311_honda...ic_type_r.html
I'm just speculating but does anyone else on here hope to see honda's new 2.0 Turbo with "at least" 280hp become an engine option in the RDX for the mid-cycle refresh?
Quote from article:
"The turbo 2.0-liter I-4 will make more than 280 hp, Honda says, which could make it a good fit for a 2015 Honda Accord V-6 replacement or even a 2015 or 2016 Acura TLX. At first, the engine will be put to use in a European-market Honda Civic Type R, pictured here. A high-performance cooling system is also part of the engine package, which could even work in a future Acura RDX."
We currently own a 2010 TSX and I've been waiting for something more exciting in the RDX whether it be hybrid/diesel/or now even a turbo. I'd be one of the first in line if they offered a high performance 2.0 turbo with more torque then the current V6 and if it could get 30mpg highway that match my TSX. I'd imagine buyers would pay a $2-3k premium.
Thoughts?
I'm just speculating but does anyone else on here hope to see honda's new 2.0 Turbo with "at least" 280hp become an engine option in the RDX for the mid-cycle refresh?
Quote from article:
"The turbo 2.0-liter I-4 will make more than 280 hp, Honda says, which could make it a good fit for a 2015 Honda Accord V-6 replacement or even a 2015 or 2016 Acura TLX. At first, the engine will be put to use in a European-market Honda Civic Type R, pictured here. A high-performance cooling system is also part of the engine package, which could even work in a future Acura RDX."
We currently own a 2010 TSX and I've been waiting for something more exciting in the RDX whether it be hybrid/diesel/or now even a turbo. I'd be one of the first in line if they offered a high performance 2.0 turbo with more torque then the current V6 and if it could get 30mpg highway that match my TSX. I'd imagine buyers would pay a $2-3k premium.
Thoughts?
Its possible that Acura would consider bringing back the turbo on the RDX but my git feeling tells me they will keep this V6 for the remainder of the 2G and likely the 3G as well. They just removed the turbo out of the RDX and would make them look like they are flip flopping if they did.
My git feeling is that the TLX and the ILX will be the first to see the turbo.....likely as the FMC for the ILX and maybe the MMC for the TLX. This is purely speculation though.
My git feeling is that the TLX and the ILX will be the first to see the turbo.....likely as the FMC for the ILX and maybe the MMC for the TLX. This is purely speculation though.
there are quite a few unhappy first gen owners for the turbo RDX needing to do major (Read quoted $7K+ repairs around 100K miles) not to mention crap gas mileage due to tiny motor pulling one very large mass...
or spend the effort in a J pipe and other measures to free up HP, Blowers are not cheap
or spend the effort in a J pipe and other measures to free up HP, Blowers are not cheap
I never understood using it for the first gen RDX. Obviously I was not the only one who did not see any advantage over a smooth V-6.
Turbos can be fun, but the RDX is a premium vehicle with the powerful and efficient V6 as is.
Acura is late in the game.
like always.
look at ford and their amazing ecoboost.
yet, they still have the muscle.
even the new 328i's with the 2.0 turbo are solid machines..
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I have both RDX's and the V6 is such an improvement in all ways (power, smoothness, and gas mileage), why would anyone want the turbo again. The new V6 is simply Fantastic. BTW, I heard the turbos have been bulletproof and I was not aware of engine issues.
I understand all the comments on the previous generation's 2.3 liter turbo engine and it's lack of smoothness and worse mpg.
Maybe I"m in the small minority that thinks Honda may have learned alot from that engine and greatly improved upon it. I do think the V6 is a big improvement on the old turbo. But is it possible that since 2006 and the 8 years that have passed from when this engine will hit production that they have made significant engineering/efficiently imporovements? I don't think Honda will miss the mark with this new 2.0 turbo and according to the articles on it, turbos and DI are the way this company is heading.
I think they have come close to maxing out the J-series engine in terms of both fuel economy and power with VCM and DI.
I would welcome the redtop 2.0 turbo with 280+hp and 8-speed DCT in my next vehicle (RDX, TLX, ect.). I'd imagine we'd be talking about a faster RDX that got 30mpg highway as well if it gets this engine. Time will tell, maybe they will just keep this future engine as the top choice in the Civic type R, TLX or ILX.
Maybe I"m in the small minority that thinks Honda may have learned alot from that engine and greatly improved upon it. I do think the V6 is a big improvement on the old turbo. But is it possible that since 2006 and the 8 years that have passed from when this engine will hit production that they have made significant engineering/efficiently imporovements? I don't think Honda will miss the mark with this new 2.0 turbo and according to the articles on it, turbos and DI are the way this company is heading.
I think they have come close to maxing out the J-series engine in terms of both fuel economy and power with VCM and DI.
I would welcome the redtop 2.0 turbo with 280+hp and 8-speed DCT in my next vehicle (RDX, TLX, ect.). I'd imagine we'd be talking about a faster RDX that got 30mpg highway as well if it gets this engine. Time will tell, maybe they will just keep this future engine as the top choice in the Civic type R, TLX or ILX.
Yes, I would love to see the 2.0T in both the new TLX and in the RDX along with the Advanced trim.....I would buy it tomorrow!
Come on Acura, listen to your faithful customers or you may lose them to the competition. I have spent a lot of time this past year checking out the competition, more so than any previous years as Acura has not delivered a product I want at this point. A four cylinder turbo option in the TLX and RDX (with Advance trim) would have my immediate attention!
Come on Acura, listen to your faithful customers or you may lose them to the competition. I have spent a lot of time this past year checking out the competition, more so than any previous years as Acura has not delivered a product I want at this point. A four cylinder turbo option in the TLX and RDX (with Advance trim) would have my immediate attention!
Personally I very much doubt that Acura will make a switch mid stream from a V6 to a 4cyl Turbo. MAYBE they switch to the ED V6, but until the next FMC, which is years away, I doubt this will happen.
I am with what ^^ said although I don't have an issue with bringing the turbo to some vehicles. I am not sure the RDX would be the vehicle I would see though. I oculd see a turbo on the ILX and the TLX and possibly if they slided a sub CUV compact below the RDX down the road.
Yes, based upon Acura's past record, I would say that s most likely. The question I really want the answer to is what is Honda doing in the ED engines to prevent carbon build up which is a problem in most DI engines?
I am with what ^^ said although I don't have an issue with bringing the turbo to some vehicles. I am not sure the RDX would be the vehicle I would see though. I oculd see a turbo on the ILX and the TLX and possibly if they slided a sub CUV compact below the RDX down the road.
I think we all want to know this. But we somehow seem to have some unfounded trust that they have figured it out. Not sure if that is wise or not. But I'd buy one.
I recall reading that Honda will offer a 2.0L turbo for the yet-to-be-released US version of the Vezel (Urban SUV concept). I really hope so, as it would make for a great little AWD to replace my old Subaru Impreza Outback Sport.
For "some" manufacturers, but not all. GM, Ford, some lexus do not seem to have this problem.
So what are you saying, that any DI motor will have this issue and we should stay away?
I know it has been a real problem for Audi and BMW and some lexus/Toyota.
I cannot believe that Honda would put out a product that requires fairly major servicing every xx miles....ain't gonna happen.
So what are you saying, that any DI motor will have this issue and we should stay away?
I know it has been a real problem for Audi and BMW and some lexus/Toyota.
I cannot believe that Honda would put out a product that requires fairly major servicing every xx miles....ain't gonna happen.
Last edited by Gen4MDX; Jan 12, 2014 at 07:07 PM.
Apparently adding an oil catch can is a big help, and using a quality gas with detergents like Shell.
We probably won't see any issues with carbon build up on these engines for a year or so. If Honda has the same issues that Audi (for example) had it could be bad for them. So I assume they have addressed this in the engineering. Still taking precautions may be a good investment for owners of new DI engines.
We probably won't see any issues with carbon build up on these engines for a year or so. If Honda has the same issues that Audi (for example) had it could be bad for them. So I assume they have addressed this in the engineering. Still taking precautions may be a good investment for owners of new DI engines.
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