Good news for the auto trannys: Extended 100k Warranty!
Suzuka Master
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From: Santa Clarita, CA
Originally posted by Scrib
The USA Today article clearly states that it will be a 7yr/100K warrany on the tranny only.
If this is in fact what happens, then having your own extended warranty still sounds like a good idea.
The USA Today article clearly states that it will be a 7yr/100K warrany on the tranny only.
If this is in fact what happens, then having your own extended warranty still sounds like a good idea.
They wouldn't smear the customers who already purchased
a $1000 7yr./100k extended warranty.
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Its not b.s. Stoner. I'm betting that if you want the full extended warranty, then you'd have to shell out the full amount.
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From: Santa Clarita, CA
Originally posted by jimcol711
guys, just to send us the letters about the tranny, its going to cost Honda about 384,000 bucks!!! hahahahah (1.2 million letters times 32 cents a peice for postage....not to mention the cost of the paper and printing the letters....hahahahah) this letter alone will likely cost them over 400,000 bucks!! let alone the trannys they have to replace now
guys, just to send us the letters about the tranny, its going to cost Honda about 384,000 bucks!!! hahahahah (1.2 million letters times 32 cents a peice for postage....not to mention the cost of the paper and printing the letters....hahahahah) this letter alone will likely cost them over 400,000 bucks!! let alone the trannys they have to replace now
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From: The grande.. Riverdale NJ.. Hopefully moving to skyline village in Lincoln park NJ..yes dirty jersey
Originally posted by KavexTrax
Yea, I'm thinking the same too.
They wouldn't smear the customers who already purchased
a $1000 7yr./100k extended warranty.
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Its not b.s. Stoner. I'm betting that if you want the full extended warranty, then you'd have to shell out the full amount.
Yea, I'm thinking the same too.
They wouldn't smear the customers who already purchased
a $1000 7yr./100k extended warranty.
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Its not b.s. Stoner. I'm betting that if you want the full extended warranty, then you'd have to shell out the full amount.
I wonder how much stupid things like the power seats cost to fix if it broke..
Or how much $$ for a broken actulater?
Anyone know?
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From: Northwest IN
Originally posted by StonedCL
So you dont think they will even lower the price on a FULL extended warrenty?
I wonder how much stupid things like the power seats cost to fix if it broke..
Or how much $$ for a broken actulater?
Anyone know?
So you dont think they will even lower the price on a FULL extended warrenty?
I wonder how much stupid things like the power seats cost to fix if it broke..
Or how much $$ for a broken actulater?
Anyone know?
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From: Anna,OH(home of the honda/acura motors)
to jimcol and everyone: DON'T PUT IN THE OLD STYLE TRANNY!!
a couple reasons #1 the old design will keep on blowing trannys because the design sucks
(if you look at my post before i explained why the old style trannys lock up) #2 they might have (i haven't even talked acura dealer about this cause this is so new) changed gears or something so you guys might get better launches or better mileage
:P
a couple reasons #1 the old design will keep on blowing trannys because the design sucks
(if you look at my post before i explained why the old style trannys lock up) #2 they might have (i haven't even talked acura dealer about this cause this is so new) changed gears or something so you guys might get better launches or better mileage :P
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From: Gainesville, Fl for college, Palm Beach Gardens, Fl at Home
Lets say in 3 years my tranny brakes. How am I going to prove to my dealer that my 03 AT Cl-S has a 7 year 100,000 mile tranny extended warranty. Am I supposed to expect a letter or something from Honda. Also, if I do not receive one if i am supposed to, then how should I follow up on that. Also, can someone explain what the actuator is, and how I would know if it broke?
Originally posted by Renegade
Lets say in 3 years my tranny brakes. How am I going to prove to my dealer that my 03 AT Cl-S has a 7 year 100,000 mile tranny extended warranty. Am I supposed to expect a letter or something from Honda. Also, if I do not receive one if i am supposed to, then how should I follow up on that. Also, can someone explain what the actuator is, and how I would know if it broke?
Lets say in 3 years my tranny brakes. How am I going to prove to my dealer that my 03 AT Cl-S has a 7 year 100,000 mile tranny extended warranty. Am I supposed to expect a letter or something from Honda. Also, if I do not receive one if i am supposed to, then how should I follow up on that. Also, can someone explain what the actuator is, and how I would know if it broke?
If you do not receive one and you feel you should have you would call Acura Customer Service and they will let you know by you VIN number.
Information on the actuator can be found on our FAQ, or you can just click the link below.....
http://www.geocities.com/gamesmgr/chod/acura/#Driving6
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From: Jersey
WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I AIN'T READING THIS WHOLE THREAD....... THIS IS PHUCKING BULLSH!T....... YOU MUTHASUCKA'S SHOULDA BOUGHT THE EXTENDED WARRANTY LIKE I DID WHEN I FIRST PURCHASED THE CAR..... NOW YOU GUYS ARE COVERED FOR FREEE....... BULLSH!T I TELL YOU.......
j/p......:P :P Glad to see Acura coming to their senses..... I guess I can keep away from the Audi's a little bit longer......
j/p......:P :P
Glad to see Acura coming to their senses..... I guess I can keep away from the Audi's a little bit longer......
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From: Houston, TX
Originally posted by ThoroDredCLS
Danny25 and Rod - I am using Rondog's issue as a point for that. He was went to the dealership to get his car worked on and his transmission. The dealer gave him a load of BS because of his CAI. Now if I were to mod my car and they said this was a part of the problem BS! Honda had a problem with the trannys b4 modding. So, if i were to come into the dealership and my tranny went, there should be no discussion on me having to pay for the next one because i modded my car. Reread the post by rondog about his tranny and modds. I am not worried about HONDAs engines because for the most part they are bullet proof. I was worried about the tranny and dealers not servicing them because of modds. The mong(don't know the spelling) MOSS ACT or whatever you call it still applies here.
Danny25 and Rod - I am using Rondog's issue as a point for that. He was went to the dealership to get his car worked on and his transmission. The dealer gave him a load of BS because of his CAI. Now if I were to mod my car and they said this was a part of the problem BS! Honda had a problem with the trannys b4 modding. So, if i were to come into the dealership and my tranny went, there should be no discussion on me having to pay for the next one because i modded my car. Reread the post by rondog about his tranny and modds. I am not worried about HONDAs engines because for the most part they are bullet proof. I was worried about the tranny and dealers not servicing them because of modds. The mong(don't know the spelling) MOSS ACT or whatever you call it still applies here.
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After seven pages, I'm just getting into the reading so it's probably a big unfair to be judgmental but I do see that this is good news for everyone (even me although I have an extended warranty). Yes, there are a few greedy people here who always want something for nothing but that's to be expected.
Like I said earlier, Honda/Acura knew all about the problem all along, they read on this board all the time, I don't think it was the pressure from this board that brought results, the type of pressure that would result from a full press that could be found on ACL would have resulted in more than an extended tranny warranty. Honda/Acura just did what they were suppose to do and I think their timing was only slightly off. You gotta remember this problem started out slow, we know on the Internet and lived with it a lot longer than the [regular] public, and it was a stumper so I guess the only issue is what about if your's fail and inconvenience you and/or the safety factor? So far, no recall.....
Also I think it's funny how a few have changed their tune overnight. I still think Honda/Acura is a great company and they make great products, but mind you I don't work for them, I just buy their cars.
Like I said earlier, Honda/Acura knew all about the problem all along, they read on this board all the time, I don't think it was the pressure from this board that brought results, the type of pressure that would result from a full press that could be found on ACL would have resulted in more than an extended tranny warranty. Honda/Acura just did what they were suppose to do and I think their timing was only slightly off. You gotta remember this problem started out slow, we know on the Internet and lived with it a lot longer than the [regular] public, and it was a stumper so I guess the only issue is what about if your's fail and inconvenience you and/or the safety factor? So far, no recall.....
Also I think it's funny how a few have changed their tune overnight. I still think Honda/Acura is a great company and they make great products, but mind you I don't work for them, I just buy their cars.
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From: NJ
Originally posted by kensteele
After seven pages, I'm just getting into the reading so it's probably a big unfair to be judgmental but I do see that this is good news for everyone (even me although I have an extended warranty). Yes, there are a few greedy people here who always want something for nothing but that's to be expected.
Like I said earlier, Honda/Acura knew all about the problem all along, they read on this board all the time, I don't think it was the pressure from this board that brought results, the type of pressure that would result from a full press that could be found on ACL would have resulted in more than an extended tranny warranty. Honda/Acura just did what they were suppose to do and I think their timing was only slightly off. You gotta remember this problem started out slow, we know on the Internet and lived with it a lot longer than the [regular] public, and it was a stumper so I guess the only issue is what about if your's fail and inconvenience you and/or the safety factor? So far, no recall.....
Also I think it's funny how a few have changed their tune overnight. I still think Honda/Acura is a great company and they make great products, but mind you I don't work for them, I just buy their cars.
After seven pages, I'm just getting into the reading so it's probably a big unfair to be judgmental but I do see that this is good news for everyone (even me although I have an extended warranty). Yes, there are a few greedy people here who always want something for nothing but that's to be expected.
Like I said earlier, Honda/Acura knew all about the problem all along, they read on this board all the time, I don't think it was the pressure from this board that brought results, the type of pressure that would result from a full press that could be found on ACL would have resulted in more than an extended tranny warranty. Honda/Acura just did what they were suppose to do and I think their timing was only slightly off. You gotta remember this problem started out slow, we know on the Internet and lived with it a lot longer than the [regular] public, and it was a stumper so I guess the only issue is what about if your's fail and inconvenience you and/or the safety factor? So far, no recall.....
Also I think it's funny how a few have changed their tune overnight. I still think Honda/Acura is a great company and they make great products, but mind you I don't work for them, I just buy their cars.
I am not greedy, I just think that specifc design flaw should be covered lifetime. To be fare, they can open a transmission and determine the source of the problem... if the source of the problem is the design flaw there were talking about... it must be covered for lifetime!!!
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Originally posted by russianDude
I want them to do more than 7yr/100K, they should cover your transmission for life time if it fails because of the freaken design flaw.... What if your 3rg gear bearing problem only surfaces after 100K miles? So far there is no clear indication at what milage this problem happens... some have at 10K some have at 60K...
I am not greedy, I just think that specifc design flaw should be covered lifetime. To be fare, they can open a transmission and determine the source of the problem... if the source of the problem is the design flaw there were talking about... it must be covered for lifetime!!!
I want them to do more than 7yr/100K, they should cover your transmission for life time if it fails because of the freaken design flaw.... What if your 3rg gear bearing problem only surfaces after 100K miles? So far there is no clear indication at what milage this problem happens... some have at 10K some have at 60K...
I am not greedy, I just think that specifc design flaw should be covered lifetime. To be fare, they can open a transmission and determine the source of the problem... if the source of the problem is the design flaw there were talking about... it must be covered for lifetime!!!
most failures are either a design flaw or limits of materials, thats how most products are updated with new designs
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From: DUMB ISLAND
Hey, Whatsup guys
I have a friend who is a Honda Tech and he told me Honda did indeed correct the issues that was wrong w/the 3rd clutch pack bearing....instead of just replacing the blown tranny w/another defective one
I'll ask him 4 for specifics/details later but he told me that the tranny was redesigned...He told me that the new generation of 5spd trannies (03 Accord and prob 03 MDX) should not be plagued by this problem anymore and all 5spd's w/v6s should be fine by model year 2004...He said Corporate Honda of Japan was supposedly very pissed at American Honda and was beginning to think that this would become a black eye to the company and thus ordered meetings and re-evaluations of the tranny...
I do not understand why Corporate honda of Japan would be pissed since the trannies are built in Japan
My friend did mention that the North America is Honda's largest market and they can't afford to lose share here due to their own stupidity (i.e. under-designed trannies)....plus they didn't want it 2 blow up in their face like firestone and ford
I have a friend who is a Honda Tech and he told me Honda did indeed correct the issues that was wrong w/the 3rd clutch pack bearing....instead of just replacing the blown tranny w/another defective one
I'll ask him 4 for specifics/details later but he told me that the tranny was redesigned...He told me that the new generation of 5spd trannies (03 Accord and prob 03 MDX) should not be plagued by this problem anymore and all 5spd's w/v6s should be fine by model year 2004...He said Corporate Honda of Japan was supposedly very pissed at American Honda and was beginning to think that this would become a black eye to the company and thus ordered meetings and re-evaluations of the tranny...I do not understand why Corporate honda of Japan would be pissed since the trannies are built in Japan
My friend did mention that the North America is Honda's largest market and they can't afford to lose share here due to their own stupidity (i.e. under-designed trannies)....plus they didn't want it 2 blow up in their face like firestone and ford
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how's this for timing...
my tranny blow today - 9/20/2002 - with 52026 miles.
I was a little more than pissed! I over it now, but it caused the rest of my day to be hell, and I'm not just talking about waiting the the Florida sun while AAA took their sweet time coming to get me.
I hope that when the dealership looks at the car on monday, they have and open mind and know about the extended warranty. I've already printed this information and I sure they'll take care of me.
Now I can only hope for a nice loaner.
J
I was a little more than pissed! I over it now, but it caused the rest of my day to be hell, and I'm not just talking about waiting the the Florida sun while AAA took their sweet time coming to get me.
I hope that when the dealership looks at the car on monday, they have and open mind and know about the extended warranty. I've already printed this information and I sure they'll take care of me.
Now I can only hope for a nice loaner.
J
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From: Costa Mesa, CA, USA
Wrong!
Originally posted by Nashua_Night_Hawk
great.. now at 41Kmiles I have fears about my tranny starting to shake when shifting or lifting up on gas....
I already have a FREE Acura 6/years 100,000 miles Extended Power train warrenty. Acura is making it a better deal for 7-years/100kmiles on the tranny only. now if I hit 90 kmiles and the tranny dies... The newer tranny should hold up for an extra 100,000 kmiles.
I am all set now.
great.. now at 41Kmiles I have fears about my tranny starting to shake when shifting or lifting up on gas....
I already have a FREE Acura 6/years 100,000 miles Extended Power train warrenty. Acura is making it a better deal for 7-years/100kmiles on the tranny only. now if I hit 90 kmiles and the tranny dies... The newer tranny should hold up for an extra 100,000 kmiles.
I am all set now.
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From: Nashua, NH, USA
sure it is only 100,000 kmiles... I meant to say if the tranny held up to 90kmiles and went south you would expect the new one that was replaced under the extended warrenty to serve you an extra 100,000 miles... 
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From: Anna,OH(home of the honda/acura motors)
unsure:the tranny's are built about 5 or 6 miles from my house near indian lake,ohio. (it was like a stone throw from my high school).so they are built in the good old USA.
now about the tranny replacements. believe it or not there's 2 generation trannys from 01 to 03 CLs and TLs
the gen 1 trannys were put in the 01 and 02 cars(these as you other guys can tell you are garbage)
the gen 2 trannys are good trannys these are are on the 03 CLs and TLs
now what the acura will do if you blow a tranny they will unbolt your 01 or 02 tranny and bolt in a 03 tranny. your saying why is the 03 different. They redid the design of that bearing in the tranny for the 03. so it's very likely for a 01 or 02 car have a 03 tranny:P
now about the tranny replacements. believe it or not there's 2 generation trannys from 01 to 03 CLs and TLs
the gen 1 trannys were put in the 01 and 02 cars(these as you other guys can tell you are garbage)
the gen 2 trannys are good trannys these are are on the 03 CLs and TLs
now what the acura will do if you blow a tranny they will unbolt your 01 or 02 tranny and bolt in a 03 tranny. your saying why is the 03 different. They redid the design of that bearing in the tranny for the 03. so it's very likely for a 01 or 02 car have a 03 tranny:P
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From: SAC, CA
Originally posted by russianDude
I want them to do more than 7yr/100K, they should cover your transmission for life time if it fails because of the freaken design flaw.... What if your 3rg gear bearing problem only surfaces after 100K miles? ... it must be covered for lifetime!!!
I want them to do more than 7yr/100K, they should cover your transmission for life time if it fails because of the freaken design flaw.... What if your 3rg gear bearing problem only surfaces after 100K miles? ... it must be covered for lifetime!!!
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From: NJ
Originally posted by acura_service
Russiandude, there are limits to everything, there will always be isolated cases of what if's, but they probably figured on some statistic about how long the average owner keeps a car
most failures are either a design flaw or limits of materials, thats how most products are updated with new designs
Russiandude, there are limits to everything, there will always be isolated cases of what if's, but they probably figured on some statistic about how long the average owner keeps a car
most failures are either a design flaw or limits of materials, thats how most products are updated with new designs
So to make things clear, does it mean if I can go more than 100K miles on the original transmission, it means my 3rd gear bearing is fine, or it can go any moment ?
In your oppinion, is it reasonable to expect ORIGINAL transmission to work until 200K miles like on many good old Toyota Camrys ??? what is the chance your original transmission will ever hold until 200K miles, 3% chance??
Anyway, that's fine with me... if I am confident that the replacement transmission is free of issues, I would not be to pissed to replace it after warranty with my own money ( ofcourse if I still have this car by that time ). Cause it seems that our engines are very good, and car should last till 200K miles.
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From: Chicago Burbs
This is still a poor excuse on acura part. I mean ok now you got the warrenty... and IF your tranny does go out, its free.. well thats good news.. but how about how most have to wait almost A MONTH for it? So basicly you are without a car for a month or so. Still doesnt tickle my pee pee
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Does anyone care about the safety issue with these bad transmissions and why a mandatory recall was not called for by the NHTSA instead? The LA times article about that guy's tranny slamming into 2nd gear while going 80mph scared the s!@# out of me. Yes, I agree Acura is headed in the right direction by extending the warranty and that's great, but think about it, if I'm dead the extended warranty is worthless. Call me crazy, but I value my life and don't feel safe anymore in my beloved Type-S anymore.
http://www.latimes.com/classified/au...tos%2Dhighway1
http://www.latimes.com/classified/au...tos%2Dhighway1
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would anyone else be upset knowing that after seven years of ownership we'll then finally realize what a really bad decision this was... so instead, we should all sell our cars now! let's leave the agony and pain of owning a CL to the next group of losers...
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From: NJ
Originally posted by SilverBulletCLS
would anyone else be upset knowing that after seven years of ownership we'll then finally realize what a really bad decision this was... so instead, we should all sell our cars now! let's leave the agony and pain of owning a CL to the next group of losers...
would anyone else be upset knowing that after seven years of ownership we'll then finally realize what a really bad decision this was... so instead, we should all sell our cars now! let's leave the agony and pain of owning a CL to the next group of losers...
That's why I said its better if they can cover this design flaw for life-time. Not just ANY transmission failure, only the one related to 3rd gear bearing!
On the other hand, lets say your tranny fails at 100K miles... but you are really crazzy about this car and want to have it for another 100K miles, it might be worse it to pay $5,000 to have new transmission ( provided that the problem is fixed )
Well, I really hope that if your tranny is doomed to fail it will do so before 100K miles.
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From: Nashua, NH, USA
asking tranny to work hard for 200,000 kmiles at 15 kmiles/year that is 14-15 years.... Sorry I don't need to drive the same car for that long... CL is not a collectible.... 
I will buy a new car!!
I will buy a new car!!
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From: Long Island, NY
Originally posted by Water-S
the gen 1 trannys were put in the 01 and 02 cars(these as you other guys can tell you are garbage)
the gen 2 trannys are good trannys these are are on the 03 CLs and TLs
the gen 1 trannys were put in the 01 and 02 cars(these as you other guys can tell you are garbage)
the gen 2 trannys are good trannys these are are on the 03 CLs and TLs
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From: NJ
Originally posted by Nashua_Night_Hawk
asking tranny to work hard for 200,000 kmiles at 15 kmiles/year that is 14-15 years.... Sorry I don't need to drive the same car for that long... CL is not a collectible....
I will buy a new car!!
asking tranny to work hard for 200,000 kmiles at 15 kmiles/year that is 14-15 years.... Sorry I don't need to drive the same car for that long... CL is not a collectible....
I will buy a new car!!
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From: Bellevue, WA
Ugh. This board depresses me. Even good news is bad news. Ya know, shit happens. Try to be happy until it does. This isn't a perfect car but it's still a DAMN nice car. I know, I know - 'just wait until YOUR tranny blows.' Well, when it occurs, it'll be covered. I'm not gonna baby my car just because there is a 1.5% chance of the tranny going. I mean, think about it. Condoms are 1.5% ineffective. Does that mean you stop having sex???
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ya i saw this on the news at 11 in LA, PT woo hoo, it didnt come out this morning, FRIDAY BABY!!
WOO HOO but if my tranny goes, ill prob still end up selling my parts and selling the car stock.... Made some evaluations and prob go //M3
Nick out
WOO HOO but if my tranny goes, ill prob still end up selling my parts and selling the car stock.... Made some evaluations and prob go //M3
Nick out
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Originally posted by nvpscore
ya i saw this on the news at 11 in LA, PT woo hoo, it didnt come out this morning, FRIDAY BABY!!
WOO HOO but if my tranny goes, ill prob still end up selling my parts and selling the car stock.... Made some evaluations and prob go //M3
Nick out
ya i saw this on the news at 11 in LA, PT woo hoo, it didnt come out this morning, FRIDAY BABY!!
WOO HOO but if my tranny goes, ill prob still end up selling my parts and selling the car stock.... Made some evaluations and prob go //M3
Nick out
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From: Santa Clarita, CA
Originally posted by Acura3.0CLP
So you are get rid of your CL when your tranny dies and buy an M3??? So what are u going to buy when your M3's engine blows.
So you are get rid of your CL when your tranny dies and buy an M3??? So what are u going to buy when your M3's engine blows.
The engine problem should be fixed, hopefully....
If not, prob s2200
and save the money for mods, SC for sureNick out