6peedSleepR

SO.. what exactly are "pillowball mounts and what do they do exactly?? maybe you guys with Tein's can help me out here...

Titand19

some have camber plates

6peedSleepR

oh so you can somewhat adjust your camber without a camber kit?

Excelerate

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http://tein.com/pumnt.html

MrHeeltoe

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Pillow upper mounts are the top hats you see on some coilover systems. They replace the top hats that come stock on the car. The idea behind replacing them is simple. They give the shock a more rigid mount to the body of the car, making the damper movement more linear and direct.


See, the stock top hats have rubber bushings in them, and when the suspension moves up and down the rubber bushings squish around, numbing the fine movements between the shock and the body. This makes the car ride smoother and dampens out small road imperfections.

Companies like Tein and Cusco offer "pillow-ball" upper mounts, which is a fancy way of saying they use a spherical bearing in place of the rubber bushings. This gives the shock a rigid mount to the body and very direct movement.

The advantage behind getting pillow mounts is that you can feel the road much better and steering feel is somewhat enhanced (more on Macpherson strut cars than on our wishbone Honda sus). The disadvantage to this is while you feel the road more, you really feel the road more. In the steering wheel and in you butt, you feel all the bumps you encounter. It is a lot like the effect of putting on low-profile tires. There is some cush that goes away and you get a little more jarring ride.

We offer an alternative in the form of metal-reinforced bushings. You can replace the rubber bushings in your stock top hats with these firmer units to gain better road feel without a fully rigid upper mount.


Now a lot of people notice right away that camber adjustment is available on some pillow mounts. Well, they are, but only on cars that have a Macherson-style suspension. Cars like M3s, WRXs, RSXs, etc have camber adjustment. Double-wishbone cars are deigned differently and camber is not adjusted this way. That's why us CL, TL, and TSXers need to buy camber kits to adjust camber.



Hope that answers the question.


Marcus

CL Platano

Thanks..interesting..so if we get this replacement can we get the EDFC to work without having the Tein pillow mounts?

mclarenf3387

The TL doesn't need the pillowmounts for the EDFC to work.

Only the CL does because of clearance issues with the motors.

And I believe Tein does not sell the pillow mounts seperate for our set-up.

brianlin87

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That is correct. They don't.

CL Platano

Cool..thanks Brett ..I might go out and find one then

6peedSleepR

damn so I couldnt just get the tein ss coilovers and throw on the edfc on my cl-s?!

little brad

my omnipower coilovers came with upper pillowball mounts


not camber plates, though

6peedSleepR

hey brad how's the ryde on those.. being as low as you are

little brad

stiff and confident. some people say 'bouncy' because they don't know the difference between the two.

i couldn't be happier with my purchase. i paid $630 shipped for the full coilover with the upper mounts. i do wish they were damper adjustable, but im happy with them the way they are. the car feels sportier and just 'tighter' overall. stock suspension feels sluggish and sloppy.

Excelerate

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You can use the EDFC with the SS coilovers, but the motors collide with the hood on the CL-S. However, TEIN just released new, more compact EDFC motors and maybe these ones might clear the hood.

6peedSleepR

dAMN.. i REALLY WANTED TO GET BOTH.. anyway you can find 4 sure?

MrHeeltoe

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Sure, get the SS and the new EDFC and try it

All I mean is, we are not going to know until Tein publishes something, or some brave soul tries it out.

Marcus

6peedSleepR

DAMN now i'm tempted to do it

SkillOBskilled

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So has it been verified whether the new Tein EDFC motors clear the hood on the CL when using the non-pillow ball Tien SS mounts?