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Old 04-24-2009 | 02:07 PM
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04 TL apsec wheels on a CL?

My sister just got a tsx with aspec wheels on it and I was wondering if I should get the aspec wheels put on my cl or not? ill get pics of them on my cl later
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TSX A-spec wheels are essentially the same size as a CLS stock rim so you wouldn't have any fitment issues but you'd still be riding on 17's.

REAL TL A-spec rims are 18x8.5, they also make a sparkle silver rim that looks similar to a A-spec rim but it's 18x8.

Here's a pic of my whip with real 18x8.5 A-specs so you can get a feel for what it will look like.


And just for fun, here's a pic of a TSX sitting on some milk crates that recently had its A-spec wheels stolen
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yeah those are the ones on the tsx she got do you have any problems with scraping?
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yeah those are the ones on the tsx she got do you have any problems with scraping?
Which ones are the ones? If they are TSX A-specs than definitely not, no issues whatsoever.

If they are the 18x8.5 than maybe. I run a 235 and I would fender rub in the rear if I went any lower (dropped on Tein SS-P). As the car sits in the picture above I have no rubbing issues. Nightpoison (another member) has the same rims as me but is on Comptech lowering springs. The previous owner of his car tried to run a 235 but the fender rubbed in the rear frequently so he has to run a 225 tire.

Once you have the rims off the car the rim specs can be seen on the inside of the spokes. I'm not sure if the 18x8's would change anything, I think you would still rub if you go to low with a drop unless you went with a 225 width tire. The rims are Enkei's FWIW.
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here are the ones on my car now they are the 04 tl wheels and I do get very minimal rubbing on certain slopes

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heres the wheels on the tsx my sister got I think they are the aspecs for the TL's



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Judging by the wheel gap, I'm pretty sure those are TSX A-specs. I can't quite make out the tire size from the pics but if there 17" then they are TSX A-specs, if they are 18" they are from a TL.
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Judging by the wheel gap, I'm pretty sure those are TSX A-specs. I can't quite make out the tire size from the pics but if there 17" then they are TSX A-specs, if they are 18" they are from a TL.
they are 18" rims that are 8.5" wide. are there any fitment issues when dropped?
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they are 18" rims that are 8.5" wide. are there any fitment issues when dropped?
Now it gets tricky.

If you run a 225 tire you should be pretty safe unless you want to slam the car to the ground.

I run a 235 tire on the same rim and I am limited to the drop in the pic. If I go any lower I rub in the rear.

I knew this going in as I have a buddy with the same car (year/color/transmission/rims) who is a little lower than me. I made the decision to go with more rubber on the road and a more New England frost heaven road friendly ride height.

If you want to be safe, start looking into the fine art of fender rolling.
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Originally Posted by black label
Now it gets tricky.

If you run a 225 tire you should be pretty safe unless you want to slam the car to the ground.

I run a 235 tire on the same rim and I am limited to the drop in the pic. If I go any lower I rub in the rear.

I knew this going in as I have a buddy with the same car (year/color/transmission/rims) who is a little lower than me. I made the decision to go with more rubber on the road and a more New England frost heaven road friendly ride height.

If you want to be safe, start looking into the fine art of fender rolling.
So if I go with 225 I would be safe?
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I would say yes you're safe unless you really want to slam it (like 1-2" off the ground) then you may have an issue.
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Originally Posted by black label
I would say yes you're safe unless you really want to slam it (like 1-2" off the ground) then you may have an issue.
I only got a 1.6" drop is that fine?
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I am at the minimum drop with tein ss-p coilovers and I'm OK. I think you're right on the edge.
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Originally Posted by black label

I am at the minimum drop with tein ss-p coilovers and I'm OK. I think you're right on the edge.
do you know what drop that is?
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According to their website 1.97" front and 1.5" rear is the minimum drop on a 2nd gen CL with the SS-P.
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Originally Posted by black label
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According to their website 1.97" front and 1.5" rear is the minimum drop on a 2nd gen CL with the SS-P.
So I should be good or are you not just rubbing because your coil overs are a lot stiffer? I scrape at times with my TL wheels and they are 8" wide
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They are 16 way adjustable, I have never had them softer than 7 (1 being the softest). IMO 7 is a softer ride than the stock suspension.

No promises being made, but I think your safe. Just keep the radio off for the first day you have them on and listen carefully when you hit a bump if you rub, you'll hear it.
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Originally Posted by black label
They are 16 way adjustable, I have never had them softer than 7 (1 being the softest). IMO 7 is a softer ride than the stock suspension.

No promises being made, but I think your safe. Just keep the radio off for the first day you have them on and listen carefully when you hit a bump if you rub, you'll hear it.
Is rubbing every now and then bad for anything?
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Originally Posted by 2Fast4you
Is rubbing every now and then bad for anything?
Just your tires. If you do rub, you'll see a ring on the tire where the rubber buzzed the fender. I never had any bad rubs, but I have seen tires with solid cuts in them from bad rubs.
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It could mess up your fenders if you hit it hard enough. I destroyed a fender on my old Civic coming into my driveway, which is pretty steep. Had the wheel cut all the way to the right and started coming in, didnt hear anything unusual then an odd pulling, scraping sound. Tire grabbed the fender lip and pulled it out. I was furious.

I have had the rear rub on the CL when someone was in the backseatL, but no damage was done.
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Originally Posted by black label
Just your tires. If you do rub, you'll see a ring on the tire where the rubber buzzed the fender. I never had any bad rubs, but I have seen tires with solid cuts in them from bad rubs.
So let me get this straight if im rubbing with 235\45\17 that are 8" wide with a 1.6" drop now but only on very big bumps I should be okay with 225\45\18 that are 8.5" wide?
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those look real nice I would be curious to how they would look on a 03 anthracite CL
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Yes to aspecs


What drop are you running how far is the drop?
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Originally Posted by 2Fast4you
So let me get this straight if im rubbing with 235\45\17 that are 8" wide with a 1.6" drop now but only on very big bumps I should be okay with 225\45\18 that are 8.5" wide?
I think you'd be safe.
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Originally Posted by 2Fast4you
What drop are you running how far is the drop?

comptech springs
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Originally Posted by black label
I think you'd be safe.
so what is the best tire to run with to prevent rubbing? Is it the 225? what is a good model with good grip?
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Yeah, the 225. I'm running Kuhmo Ecsta STP and I'm happy with them. I'm sure you can find about 50 differing opinions on Azine about what is the best tire. Better grip is usually obtained by sacrificing longevity so you need to figure out how much grip you want and how frequently you are willing to replace tires.
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Originally Posted by black label
Yeah, the 225. I'm running Kuhmo Ecsta STP and I'm happy with them. I'm sure you can find about 50 differing opinions on Azine about what is the best tire. Better grip is usually obtained by sacrificing longevity so you need to figure out how much grip you want and how frequently you are willing to replace tires.
honestly I just want some good all around tires that wont cost me alot. I would like a set of tires that has good grip though I like the falken 452 I have they have good grip and were pretty fairly priced
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Exactly why I bought the Kuhmos. They had a decent combination of treadwear/temp/traction ratings at a reasonable price. About 130 a pop.

Tirerack.com is your friend.
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Exactly why I bought the Kuhmos. They had a decent combination of treadwear/temp/traction ratings at a reasonable price. About 130 a pop.

Tirerack.com is your friend.
how much is it to get all 4 tires installed?
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Originally Posted by 2Fast4you
how much is it to get all 4 tires installed?
I got mad hook ups from working at an Acura dealer for 4 years. All of the techs are my friends so the prices I pay for this stuff is useless to you (unless you want to feel like your paying too much)

Heres a link to pics of Nightpoisons CLS with 18x8.5 A-specs wrapped in 225's with the comptech lowering springs.

https://acurazine.com/forums/showpos...91&postcount=6
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Originally Posted by black label
I got mad hook ups from working at an Acura dealer for 4 years. All of the techs are my friends so the prices I pay for this stuff is useless to you (unless you want to feel like your paying too much)

Heres a link to pics of Nightpoisons CLS with 18x8.5 A-specs wrapped in 225's with the comptech lowering springs.

https://acurazine.com/forums/showpos...91&postcount=6
is he rubbing at all?
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Last I knew he had no issues.
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The shop I go to to mount my tires does them for $12 a tire.

Whatever shop you go to, make sure they use a Hunter balancer. Its the best balancer on the market.
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got the rims put on to see what they look like


CL:

Before



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what do you guys think?
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Much better. Keep 'em.
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Looks good
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They look sweet. The A-specs I have would look friggin incredible on your car in a sleeper kind of way. They were badly curbed so I had them refinished to a darker tint. I told the guy to make then as close to anthracite as possible.

IMO definitely better than the stock TL wheels you had.


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