I have an 03 CLS 6MT. I am installing a Wilwood BBK in a few weeks. I am running stock wheels and tire size and from what I understand I will need wheel spacers to fit the BBK under my stock 17s.

What is the smallest mm wheel spacer I can run to clear the BBK? I dont want to pull the wheels out too far!!!

 

I believe I heard a 15mm spacer is needed. I could be wrong though.

 

Thats what I am wondering. Can I get away with a 10mm or if I need at least a 15mm... hmmm

Big brake people please help!!!

 

Im running the RL BBK and I heard that caliper is bigger then the wilwood and I need +10mm ona +50 wheel so that means +15mm. So you might be able to get away with something smaller but I doubt you need anything bigger then 15mm and maybe less

 

awesome thanks!

 

What is the part number on the wilwood kit your going to be using?

 

I dont know the wilwood kit #. I know it is black calipers if that helps. It should be delivered on monday so ill know more then

 

I was told 15mm needed for wilwood and 5mm needed for rotora. That would be for 1 piece packages. i think 2 piece rotors require a lil more space.

I was actually researching bbk's other day. It is one of the only mods I am not sure what I want to get yet, plus Ill prob stick with the legend calipers for awhile.

 

Where did you get them from and did you get the fronts and rears. How much did u pay if you don't mind, u can PM me.

Thanks

 

http://store.excelerateperformance.c...s/c-10075.aspx

 

Hey-

I just put a Wilwood BBK on my car and went through a world of trouble with the fitment. I originally had Ron Jon Servos that had the +50 offset. I was in a bind with my car ended up purchasing two Servos with the +42 offset and putting on an 8mm spacer. Additionally, i ended up changing tires from 235/40/18 to 225/40/18.

Hope that helps. If you have any questions, dont hesitate to message me.

 

Thanks for the info Stype. Im actually looking at some wheels right now as well so I am going to see how things fit then go from there!

 

What part number wilwood kit's are you guys using?

 

use the link i posted, enter ur car info and it will show you.

Btw is there any part on the car you arent replacing.

 

I already did that. I spoke with someone from excelerate performance and those aren't true wilwood kits they are fast brakes kits pieced together with wilwood calibers only. I'm looking for a actual wilwood part number that someone else has already bought and installed on there car. I wouldn't mind going with the 02-06 rsx kit part number 140-7014-DR if I know it fits for sure. I already called wilwood also and the tech wasn't much help at all because he said it's only for the rsx but may fit other applications.

As for replacing every part on my car that's a no lol. I still own a black on black 02 cl-p auto for about 5 years and always wanted a black on black 03 CLS6 once I started to get to know more about the cl's. Well I looked for a clean one for over a year and finally came across one in FL about 3 weeks ago so I bought it and got it shipped here to VA. I bought it just in time because my trans finally went completely out in my 02. I always had a itch to mod my the 02 but I knew the trans was shit so never really did. Now that I finally bought the car I want I have a plan and I will mod it the way I always wanted too. It's not going to be some never ending project because I already have one of those my 92 mustang lol. So now you know ha.

 

I doubt anyone has the rsx wilwood kit on a cl. If I was gonna go thru figuring out if and what is needed to get rsx to fit I would just get the spoon kit myself.

For me personally I was looking at the rotora 2 piece kit(cheapest I saw was 1600) or the brembo gt kit(2400). I decided it is just to much to pay especially since I recently upgraded brakes and put on legend calipers.

In the future I will either upgrade to a bbk or 2 piece rotors. For 2 piece rotors there are the racing brake ones at 579.99 a pair or the dba 5000 for 692 a pair. They are somewhat pricey at first but when you need to replace you keep the aluminum hat and only replace disk so its cheaper to replace.

 

That sucks, another reason why i am hesitant to get a bbk. I wanted my wheels to be 18x8.5 with a +50 or higher offset so that I could run 245 or 255 tires without worrying about rubbing etc for performance reasons. If I bought a bbk i would not want to run a spacer, so if the bbk dsnt fit behind the wheel then you either have to sell the bbk or the wheels.

 

I figured that, but then what wilwood kit are people using then? I'm pretty sure the rsx kit would fit and I would be able to have a two piece rotor at the same time. I get a discount at jegs.com and they carry the wilwood kit so I can get it for a great price. There is no way in hell I'm spending $1,500-2,400 on just front brakes that's ridiculous and overkill for what I need/want. My main goal is to solve the easily warped rotor problem and have a little better braking. I still have to get a good set of rotors and pads for the rear. I guess I'll just use the stock rear calibers.

 

Sounds like you should just upgrade rotors, pads, lines, and legend calipers or go for the cheaper rl setup? You can get a wilwood 2 piece bbk for well under 1500? I wonder how good quality is then since good 2 piece rotors alone are 580 plus a pair.

Btw a bbkis overkill no matter what you spend on it, and is done for looks.

I find it amusing that ppl will spend 2 grand on wheels just to show off a brand name, but they cheap out and buy $150 chinese headers and cheap out on brakes.

 

I disagree with that statement. If it were done strictly for looks everyone would have those ebay "bbk" covers. There is a huge difference in stopping power between the 4 piston RL calipers and the stock single piston calipers, not to mention the larger pad area and rotor provide much more bite.

 

Definitely agree, the stock brake setup on our car is under engineered based on the weight of the car it's unreal. BBK is a better permanent solution to better stopping AND not having to buy stock replacement rotors every 6 months. Better looks are just a bonus (having to buy new wheels or 3g wheels that clear is not) I shouldn't need to be self conscious of how hard i'm braking because I don't want my rotors warping..They shouldn't warp in the first place

 

I will admit, I want to do it for looks also but mainly to be worry free of the warped rotor problem. I decided not to do the legend or rl setup because I don't feel like piecing everything together. I just want to buy a kit and be done with it. Trust me I won't cheap out on anything I will do it right the first time that's why I ask a lot of questions and do research. As for wheels don't even get me started lol. I can't make up my mind and the ones I really want cost around $2,500 new. I need to figure out what I'm going to do soon.

Maybe you haven't looked up the part number I said for the wilwood kit yet. Here it is at jegs.com cross drilled and slotted with the more expensive red calibers, that price is before my discount...

http://www.jegs.com/i/Wilwood/950/140-7014-DR/10002/-1

Exactly!

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Well I bolted the Wilwood kit up the other day and I ended up going with the ichiba 20mm v2 spacers. Keep in mind Im running stock wheels right now. I think the smallest spacer you can get away with on stock wheels would be 18mm. It fills the wheel nicely! I plan on wheels next summer but adding the Comptech SC and all the other power adders I wanted to know my stopping capabilities would be increased as well!

Now my big concern is upgrading the rear brakes! They are due as is so I would like to do something larger for them as well.

 

Cant upgrade the rears since the parking brake is integrated into the rotor. There's not aftermarket option for them.

 

Is this true doesn't Rotora make a rear kit for the CL.

 

So you installed the RSX Willwood kit on your CL. Any problems with fitment.

 

Your welcome to look on their website. I never looked personally.