Smitty's Dyno day
06-19-2005, 03:43 PM
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Smitty's Dyno day
Temp: 72 degrees
Humidity 51%
Mustang Dynamometer:
1. Could not find a good ground
2. ABS light came on
3. They claim with the ABS on the rev limiter is decreased.
base Intercooler/e-manage map.
Dump was opened up on the 2nd pull.
Humidity 51%
Mustang Dynamometer:
1. Could not find a good ground
2. ABS light came on
3. They claim with the ABS on the rev limiter is decreased.
base Intercooler/e-manage map.
Dump was opened up on the 2nd pull.
06-19-2005, 04:05 PM
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2nd pull with the dump open was my best pull..
I do believe their was a 10-12% co-factor..
325Max HP at 6400 RPM
... should be 7100 RPM
278 torque
So all in all, with the co-factors the car is sitting at 350+ WHP right now...
In all honesty.. I did not get a fair/clean reading... I will go back after I take the grounding kit off and pull the ABS fuse when I get there... maybe next weekend. but I want to tune the e-manage first.
I do believe their was a 10-12% co-factor..
325Max HP at 6400 RPM
... should be 7100 RPM278 torque
So all in all, with the co-factors the car is sitting at 350+ WHP right now...
In all honesty.. I did not get a fair/clean reading... I will go back after I take the grounding kit off and pull the ABS fuse when I get there... maybe next weekend. but I want to tune the e-manage first.
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06-19-2005, 09:34 PM
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I thought mustang dynos were usually 10% under?
Is the chart already corrected?
Still pretty impressive none the less. I'm sure with a little colder weather, and no problems you could come close to 370.
Is the chart already corrected?
Still pretty impressive none the less. I'm sure with a little colder weather, and no problems you could come close to 370.
06-19-2005, 09:54 PM
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Nice numbers... 
I can't see the dyno charts, but what was the difference between routing exhaust through the mufflers vs. the cutout?
What boost were these pulls? Also what were your AFR throughout the pull?
I can't see the dyno charts, but what was the difference between routing exhaust through the mufflers vs. the cutout? What boost were these pulls? Also what were your AFR throughout the pull?
06-19-2005, 10:02 PM
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I have read that Mustang Dynos suck, not that I know anything about them, but thats just what I read.
Did Scalbert ever dyno ? I want to say yes, but not certain.
If not, would have been a good "reference" point for those with the CT SC/ Hope system IC. I know the difference in his would have been the P&P TB.
The Humidity did suck on your run though. I would have expected >350 with your setup also with the SSR's.
Didn't have any detonation right ?
Did Scalbert ever dyno ? I want to say yes, but not certain.
If not, would have been a good "reference" point for those with the CT SC/ Hope system IC. I know the difference in his would have been the P&P TB.
The Humidity did suck on your run though. I would have expected >350 with your setup also with the SSR's.
Didn't have any detonation right ?
06-19-2005, 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by mclarenf3387
I thought mustang dynos were usually 10% under?
Is the chart already corrected?
Still pretty impressive none the less. I'm sure with a little colder weather, and no problems you could come close to 370.
Is the chart already corrected?
Still pretty impressive none the less. I'm sure with a little colder weather, and no problems you could come close to 370.
It all depends on the calibration. 10% under what? A dynojet? Maybe. These numbers really aren't valid due to all the problems that came up during the dyno.
325 is what I would expect to see a non-IC'ed S/C'ed 6MT CL-S put down with just the Comptech HBP.
06-19-2005, 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by allmotor_2000
Nice numbers... I can't see the dyno charts, but what was the difference between routing exhaust through the mufflers vs. the cutout?
What boost were these pulls? Also what were your AFR throughout the pull?
I can't see the dyno charts, but what was the difference between routing exhaust through the mufflers vs. the cutout? What boost were these pulls? Also what were your AFR throughout the pull?
On his first pull (mufflers) he put down 303. With the cutout open he made 325. However, with all the other issues he was having (6800 rpm rev limiter, etc) take those numbers with a grain of salt.
Boost should be 8-9psi and he said AFR was at 11.2 @ peak HP. So he's still got plenty of room to lean things out a bit,
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Originally Posted by Chopper
I have read that Mustang Dynos suck, not that I know anything about them, but thats just what I read.
Did Scalbert ever dyno ? I want to say yes, but not certain.
If not, would have been a good "reference" point for those with the CT SC/ Hope system IC. I know the difference in his would have been the P&P TB.
The Humidity did suck on your run though. I would have expected >350 with your setup also with the SSR's.
Didn't have any detonation right ?
Did Scalbert ever dyno ? I want to say yes, but not certain.
If not, would have been a good "reference" point for those with the CT SC/ Hope system IC. I know the difference in his would have been the P&P TB.
The Humidity did suck on your run though. I would have expected >350 with your setup also with the SSR's.
Didn't have any detonation right ?
Scalbert did dyno, made 373 I believe.
06-19-2005, 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by mrsteve
It all depends on the calibration. 10% under what? A dynojet? Maybe. These numbers really aren't valid due to all the problems that came up during the dyno.
06-20-2005, 10:18 AM
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Nice pulls, although I agree with you and expected to see in the 370whp range for your setup. I did a Mustang dyno pull about 9 months ago and it read 240whp max. This last Saturday's pull showed 283 on a dynojet.
I've never heard that the ABS lowers the rev limiter??
I've never heard that the ABS lowers the rev limiter??
06-20-2005, 02:49 PM
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I've heard of the ABS sensor coming on (not in our cars though) but I haven't heard of it lowering the rev limiter.
The temperature and humidity are fine for a dyno day. It was 80+ degrees with 60+% humidity when I made 295whp.
The temperature and humidity are fine for a dyno day. It was 80+ degrees with 60+% humidity when I made 295whp.
06-20-2005, 03:18 PM
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Scalbert says
Hey Smitty,
>
> I'm not sure what the difference was between the runs but only the 3rd
> run looks close. Are you running the base map I sent without any
> changes? If so then you are about right where I would expect it.
That
> 3rd run would have made close to 340 WHP had you made it to 7000 RPM.
> And this is on a Mustang dyno which will read lower than a Dynojet
(like
> what I used).
>
> If you were to add back in some timing, lean it out a little and be
able
> to pull to redline you might have seen 360 WHP. That could be close
to
> 380 WHP on a Dynojet.
>
> Take Care,
> Steve
>
> I'm not sure what the difference was between the runs but only the 3rd
> run looks close. Are you running the base map I sent without any
> changes? If so then you are about right where I would expect it.
That
> 3rd run would have made close to 340 WHP had you made it to 7000 RPM.
> And this is on a Mustang dyno which will read lower than a Dynojet
(like
> what I used).
>
> If you were to add back in some timing, lean it out a little and be
able
> to pull to redline you might have seen 360 WHP. That could be close
to
> 380 WHP on a Dynojet.
>
> Take Care,
> Steve
06-20-2005, 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by allmotor_2000
What boost were these pulls? Also what were your AFR throughout the pull?
the A/F I seen on all 3 pulls was 11.2
06-20-2005, 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by mclarenf3387
Is the chart already corrected?
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I
... I need to find a dynoJet... yesterday just made me sick with all the problems that occurred...
06-20-2005, 04:00 PM
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Here ya go - http://www.dynojet.com/dyno_centers/...tive/index.php
Choose location close by.
Choose location close by.
06-20-2005, 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by 02AV6
Here ya go - http://www.dynojet.com/dyno_centers/...tive/index.php
Choose location close by.
Choose location close by.
We tired that. There isn't a DynoJet in the Pittsburgh Area. Just Mustang Dynos.
06-20-2005, 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Smitty
I just posted it.
11.2
11.2
So it stayed constant at 11.2 throughout the pull? If so you've got plenty of room to trim some fuel and pick up more power.
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it starts at 14.7 at idle.... it jumps as you shift and goes lean then rich.... 14-13-12 would be rich... 15's would be Lean...
the lowest number I seen while on the dyno was 11.2 rich at the upper RPM but i never got to 7200 RPM while on the POS dyno.
I do have room to trim fuel, but how?.. ignition timing.. I already lowered the Fuel pressure to 25 psi at idle.
the lowest number I seen while on the dyno was 11.2 rich at the upper RPM but i never got to 7200 RPM while on the POS dyno.
I do have room to trim fuel, but how?.. ignition timing.. I already lowered the Fuel pressure to 25 psi at idle.
15s is lean and 11s would be rich.
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06-20-2005, 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by mrsteve
We tired that. There isn't a DynoJet in the Pittsburgh Area. Just Mustang Dynos.
http://www.stropespeedshop.com/dynojet_chassis_dyno.htm
going to make the drive.
06-21-2005, 03:12 PM
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Steve get your ass up here soon so we can go make some pulls and tune...
Serge, send me that map your running..
Smitty@acurazine.com
Serge, send me that map your running..
Smitty@acurazine.com
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ewwww.... i am off this weekend.. not next... let me get back to you on that one.. I will see if I can slide out of here for that Saturday...
I will call the dyno shoppe and see when their dyno day is being held..
I will call the dyno shoppe and see when their dyno day is being held..
06-22-2005, 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Jonesi
Let me know when you guys are going.. I'm helping my sister move in DC July 4th weekend.. I'm available any time before or after that..
Come drink some beers. BBQ on Saturday
