DYNO'ed (finally) BlueCLS6's Turbo CLS
08-03-2005, 03:06 PM
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DYNO'ed (finally) BlueCLS6's Turbo CLS
Well I finally took my car to get it dynoed (and tuned). Today it made 374whp/345wTQ in full street trim (91 octane (yuk) / full exhaust including cat). This was at 7psi. I am satisfied with the results. I will post graphs when I get home from work today. The A/F ratio was smoothed out and some pinging eliminated; the car runs great now. I thought I would just get a good tune on it and leave it alone, but now I want MORE! Among my thoughts are:
- electric cut-out in front of cat (good for as much as 30whp alone!)
- water injection (allow for more timing)
- some sort of intercooler mister (we had to keep spraying the IC to keep the temps low)
- turbo heat sheild (need lower intake temps!)
- Comptech Clutch/Flywheel (had some clutch slippage on the dyno)
I don't know, you always want more! Anyway those are my results... discuss!
- electric cut-out in front of cat (good for as much as 30whp alone!)
- water injection (allow for more timing)
- some sort of intercooler mister (we had to keep spraying the IC to keep the temps low)
- turbo heat sheild (need lower intake temps!)
- Comptech Clutch/Flywheel (had some clutch slippage on the dyno)
I don't know, you always want more! Anyway those are my results... discuss!
08-03-2005, 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueCLS6
Well I finally took my car to get it dynoed (and tuned). Today it made 374whp/345wTQ in full street trim (91 octane (yuk) / full exhaust including cat). This was at 7psi. I am satisfied with the results. I will post graphs when I get home from work today. The A/F ratio was smoothed out and some pinging eliminated; the car runs great now. I thought I would just get a good tune on it and leave it alone, but now I want MORE! Among my thoughts are:
- electric cut-out in front of cat (good for as much as 30whp alone!)
- water injection (allow for more timing)
- some sort of intercooler mister (we had to keep spraying the IC to keep the temps low)
- turbo heat sheild (need lower intake temps!)
- Comptech Clutch/Flywheel (had some clutch slippage on the dyno)
I don't know, you always want more! Anyway those are my results... discuss!
- electric cut-out in front of cat (good for as much as 30whp alone!)
- water injection (allow for more timing)
- some sort of intercooler mister (we had to keep spraying the IC to keep the temps low)
- turbo heat sheild (need lower intake temps!)
- Comptech Clutch/Flywheel (had some clutch slippage on the dyno)
I don't know, you always want more! Anyway those are my results... discuss!
Very sweet, and wow your in so. cal i kinda wanna see the cl rip some m3 ass... lol
good job once again
08-03-2005, 03:18 PM
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was it a dynojet?
08-03-2005, 03:25 PM
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time and money. everything takes up time and money. the question is just whether or not waht your doing is worth it. this looks very much worth it. now, i have to have a look-see of it myself. going to the meet, mang?!
08-03-2005, 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by mattg
was it a dynojet?
08-03-2005, 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Sun Diego CL-S
time and money. everything takes up time and money. the question is just whether or not waht your doing is worth it. this looks very much worth it. now, i have to have a look-see of it myself. going to the meet, mang?!
We'll see... this definitely generated some projects for me to work on! PLUS once the car is paid off (~2 months) I'll have extra income for them...
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08-03-2005, 05:29 PM
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awesome #'s blue. I stil have the vid where you're driving by and can hear the freaking turbo spool. Awesome.
I wonder what mountainbiker is putting down on the dyno...
I wonder what mountainbiker is putting down on the dyno...
08-03-2005, 10:36 PM
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Here ya go:
I hope that's big enough. That stupid huge dip after 3800 is due to the IMRC switching over. Not sure how to eliminate or correct that phenomenon... possibly putting in an RPM switch and play with when that thing switches over.
I hope that's big enough. That stupid huge dip after 3800 is due to the IMRC switching over. Not sure how to eliminate or correct that phenomenon... possibly putting in an RPM switch and play with when that thing switches over.
08-03-2005, 11:47 PM
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Nice!! Finally you made it... over a year later!!!!!!!
How'd you get 7psi though?!? Did you change the spring...? I had a tad over 6psi on my pass. Also, what were the AFR's?
Finally you made it... over a year later!!!!!!!How'd you get 7psi though?!? Did you change the spring...? I had a tad over 6psi on my pass. Also, what were the AFR's?
08-03-2005, 11:49 PM
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Keep in mind that on a turbocharged and FMIC'd car... actualy air movement at 70mph is like an additional 2%-4% whp - so I am sure on a moving vehicle you are at or over 400whp. Hmm... now makes me want to go raise the bar a bit; all you guys are so damn close 
08-04-2005, 10:22 AM
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Congrats on the dyno results. With 305/262 WHP/TQ on my CLS 6sp and sticky tires, I get a lot of torque-steer. I can't imagine what your must be like. 
I don't remember reading if you ever fixed your slipping clutch problem or not?
With 305/262 WHP/TQ on my CLS 6sp and sticky tires, I get a lot of torque-steer. I can't imagine what your must be like. I don't remember reading if you ever fixed your slipping clutch problem or not?
08-04-2005, 11:16 AM
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Unfortunateley at these power levels the stock clutch will slip... mine does too at times - just need to go easy on it. In any case a slipping clutch is better than a busted tranny 
08-04-2005, 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by NSX-Tuner
Congrats on the dyno results. With 305/262 WHP/TQ on my CLS 6sp and sticky tires, I get a lot of torque-steer. I can't imagine what your must be like. I don't remember reading if you ever fixed your slipping clutch problem or not?
With 305/262 WHP/TQ on my CLS 6sp and sticky tires, I get a lot of torque-steer. I can't imagine what your must be like. I don't remember reading if you ever fixed your slipping clutch problem or not?. It doesn't pull the wheel out of you hand necessarily (like a Saab Viggen) but becomes very stiff and difficult to steer. I have not fixed the clutch slip yet. This time it did it fully engaged on a dyno run (4th gear) so I better take it easy between shifts. My intent is to have the Comptech clutch/flywheel unit installed by Acura when I remove the turbo kit early next year to have it smogged. I don't feel like doing that install myself! Or maybe I should... how much is the install??
08-04-2005, 08:22 PM
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Nice numbers Blue 
Interesting about what you say about the IMRC, I figured you Turbo guys disconnected it like the S/C guys do ?
Interesting about what you say about the IMRC, I figured you Turbo guys disconnected it like the S/C guys do ?
08-05-2005, 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by allmotor_2000
Nice!! Finally you made it... over a year later!!!!!!!
How'd you get 7psi though?!? Did you change the spring...? I had a tad over 6psi on my pass. Also, what were the AFR's?
Finally you made it... over a year later!!!!!!!How'd you get 7psi though?!? Did you change the spring...? I had a tad over 6psi on my pass. Also, what were the AFR's?
The very first run showed 6.8psi... the very last run was up around 7.0-7.1psi. I'll post that graph... AFR's were 11.8-12.0 I believe from 5ooorpm+.
08-05-2005, 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Chopper
Nice numbers Blue
Interesting about what you say about the IMRC, I figured you Turbo guys disconnected it like the S/C guys do ?
Interesting about what you say about the IMRC, I figured you Turbo guys disconnected it like the S/C guys do ?
08-05-2005, 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by mrsteve
Steve if you'd like the videos hosted email them to me.
08-06-2005, 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by allmotor_2000
Nice!! Finally you made it... over a year later!!!!!!!
How'd you get 7psi though?!? Did you change the spring...? I had a tad over 6psi on my pass. Also, what were the AFR's?
Finally you made it... over a year later!!!!!!!How'd you get 7psi though?!? Did you change the spring...? I had a tad over 6psi on my pass. Also, what were the AFR's?
AFR's ramp down to 11.8-12.0.
08-06-2005, 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by All Mine
Have any pictures of car and/or turbo setup?
08-06-2005, 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by mrsteve
Yes, I could once I downloaded it.
08-09-2005, 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by bryanz3.0cl
damn the spool time on that thing is crazy. what turbo? specs?
Basically the same kit that Ram is running except he has a 2.5 inch downpipe, no additional injector, no electronic cutout(i think thats the only differences)....and the turbo is a Garrett GT35R.
08-09-2005, 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by bryanz3.0cl
i mean what are the turbo's specs. a/r?
Its a dual Ball bearing turbo with a 4inch inlet and 2.50 outlet for the compressor housing
Turbine
-Wheel: 68mm w/ 84 trim
-Housing: .82 ar
Compressor
-Wheel: 82mm w/ 56 trim
-Housing: .70 ar
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what's the deal with the huge dip in between 3900 and 4900 rpms? THat seems to show up on almost all CLS dyno's, and even on some J30 w/ CLS cam dyno's. Something to do with cam profile?
nive numbers btw. No need to pout. Allmotor's 419 whp was w/ exhasut cutout, and you are on stock exhasut, so no chance you'll make that much. :P
nive numbers btw. No need to pout. Allmotor's 419 whp was w/ exhasut cutout, and you are on stock exhasut, so no chance you'll make that much. :P