DYNO RESULTS--2003 CLS-6 with APEXI NEO-- Great #'s
11-08-2007, 12:14 PM
#41
Its not so much the tune as teh hard wiring install, I would probably suggest you guys get a boomslang harness so you don't have to worry about messing anything up.
IMRC stands for Intake Manifold Resonance Control, just refering to the bypass valve in the intake manifold that opens up at 3800rpm to allow more air to come in and bolster the powerband in its midrnage and highend.
Some people including myself have experienced problems where after install the valve didn't open up, its hard to say whether or not this was a coincidence after my swap was done of an install mistake but my moneys on the install since I remember the IMRC valve working before in my car.
IMRC stands for Intake Manifold Resonance Control, just refering to the bypass valve in the intake manifold that opens up at 3800rpm to allow more air to come in and bolster the powerband in its midrnage and highend.
Some people including myself have experienced problems where after install the valve didn't open up, its hard to say whether or not this was a coincidence after my swap was done of an install mistake but my moneys on the install since I remember the IMRC valve working before in my car.
11-08-2007, 01:10 PM
#42
Caffenine Addict
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Maryland
Age: 36
Posts: 210
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by Accord_V6_400m
Its not so much the tune as teh hard wiring install, I would probably suggest you guys get a boomslang harness so you don't have to worry about messing anything up.
IMRC stands for Intake Manifold Resonance Control, just refering to the bypass valve in the intake manifold that opens up at 3800rpm to allow more air to come in and bolster the powerband in its midrnage and highend.
Some people including myself have experienced problems where after install the valve didn't open up, its hard to say whether or not this was a coincidence after my swap was done of an install mistake but my moneys on the install since I remember the IMRC valve working before in my car.
IMRC stands for Intake Manifold Resonance Control, just refering to the bypass valve in the intake manifold that opens up at 3800rpm to allow more air to come in and bolster the powerband in its midrnage and highend.
Some people including myself have experienced problems where after install the valve didn't open up, its hard to say whether or not this was a coincidence after my swap was done of an install mistake but my moneys on the install since I remember the IMRC valve working before in my car.
Im guessing a boomslang harness is somewhat plug in play harness. Is a tune necassary? Im guessing it would be benfitical t oallow it to be fine tuned to my modifications.
11-08-2007, 02:13 PM
#43
Originally Posted by Tweek
Gotcha. Basically the IMRC is similar to a dual intake runner that allows the intake to open up at a certain rpm band?
Im guessing a boomslang harness is somewhat plug in play harness. Is a tune necassary? Im guessing it would be benfitical t oallow it to be fine tuned to my modifications.
Im guessing a boomslang harness is somewhat plug in play harness. Is a tune necassary? Im guessing it would be benfitical t oallow it to be fine tuned to my modifications.
11-08-2007, 03:29 PM
#44
Caffenine Addict
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Maryland
Age: 36
Posts: 210
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by Accord_V6_400m
Its exactly that a PnP harness. A tune is a must :p its only a tool used for tuning without it is nothing. It doesn't do a self tune if thats what you were thinking. The Greddy Emanage Ultimate piggy back system has the ability to set up a conservative tune but in the end you'll need someone who knows what they are doing and good at it to as you said fine tune your ride.
11-08-2007, 05:54 PM
#45
You guys need better tuners. I don't see how you guys are only getting an average of 5whp from tuning. With mods, you can and should easily get 10whp out of it. Especially at this time of year with the weather cooled down.
<----- got 11whp and 13 lbs of torque from a tuned 3.0 with a vafc2.
How much time are you guys asking for on the dyno? I can understand if you're only paying for 1 hour and only get 5whp. I paid for 3 hours of tuning.
<----- got 11whp and 13 lbs of torque from a tuned 3.0 with a vafc2.
How much time are you guys asking for on the dyno? I can understand if you're only paying for 1 hour and only get 5whp. I paid for 3 hours of tuning.
11-08-2007, 06:38 PM
#47
EVERYTHING IS FOR SALE!
Thread Starter
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Denver
Age: 37
Posts: 293
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Well Im also 1 mile above sea level. There is no air up here. So to get more HP then someone at sea level I am fine with that. I tuned 248whp and 218tq without the neo installed. Then installed gained only midrange and less peak. But I dont think my wiring and tuning was properly done.
Accord_V6- - Did your neo reset itself ever?
Accord_V6- - Did your neo reset itself ever?
11-09-2007, 05:37 AM
#48
Originally Posted by NEVERSUMMER
Well Im also 1 mile above sea level. There is no air up here. So to get more HP then someone at sea level I am fine with that. I tuned 248whp and 218tq without the neo installed. Then installed gained only midrange and less peak. But I dont think my wiring and tuning was properly done.
Accord_V6- - Did your neo reset itself ever?
Accord_V6- - Did your neo reset itself ever?
11-09-2007, 02:36 PM
#49
Uses turn signals in my
Originally Posted by Cocoa
You guys need better tuners. I don't see how you guys are only getting an average of 5whp from tuning. With mods, you can and should easily get 10whp out of it. Especially at this time of year with the weather cooled down.
<----- got 11whp and 13 lbs of torque from a tuned 3.0 with a vafc2.
How much time are you guys asking for on the dyno? I can understand if you're only paying for 1 hour and only get 5whp. I paid for 3 hours of tuning.
<----- got 11whp and 13 lbs of torque from a tuned 3.0 with a vafc2.
How much time are you guys asking for on the dyno? I can understand if you're only paying for 1 hour and only get 5whp. I paid for 3 hours of tuning.
11-20-2007, 05:13 AM
#51
Originally Posted by Accord_V6_400m
Replied to your pm, don't think it ever reset on me before and i've had it for over a year now.
11-21-2007, 10:09 PM
#52
Originally Posted by gc86
They are a little low, you dyno'ed only 7 more whp than me and we have the same mods but you have spacers. I want to see your dyno sheet with the AFR on it also.
I have an auto.
I have an auto.
I am assuming the new trannys will nt put as much power to the wheels
.. intresting to know.... so lets have it ?
11-22-2007, 09:31 AM
#53
Senior Moderator
Originally Posted by poisx7
hEY GC86, JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY I WONDER, has ur transmission been replaced with yhe less aggressive or reflashed tranny or are u still on the old one (i.e) no reflash . Bcos i believe most auto are reflashed after a tranny replacemnt, the fuel pump is also changed , i think to a smaller one.
I am assuming the new trannys will nt put as much power to the wheels
.. intresting to know.... so lets have it ?
I am assuming the new trannys will nt put as much power to the wheels
.. intresting to know.... so lets have it ?
11-22-2007, 05:24 PM
#54
SOLD
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Lakehood, CO
Age: 40
Posts: 1,210
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Even though the dealership states otherwise, I believe if you have gotten the complete replacement like I have (replaced PCM, ECU, fuel pump, and rebuilt tranny), the wheel horsepower is negatively effected. I think the fuel pump change is more dependant on VIN than tranny. On a rolling dyno I got 200whp stock, only 213whp with header on a hub dyno. This was done in second gear though as the tech (an experienced honda guy) stated it couldn't be dynoed in third. Obviously I don't go to him anymore. I have yet to dyno after header on a rolling dyno.
BTW I had a VAFC and I know it resets when the battery is disonnected at least. Also before the VAFC during the stock dyno, the ECU lowered HP/TQ by around 20 each after one run unless the engine and power were turned off, even with cool down time. Back to back runs with the engine and power turned off produced identical and normal results. No idea why that happens.
BTW I had a VAFC and I know it resets when the battery is disonnected at least. Also before the VAFC during the stock dyno, the ECU lowered HP/TQ by around 20 each after one run unless the engine and power were turned off, even with cool down time. Back to back runs with the engine and power turned off produced identical and normal results. No idea why that happens.
11-22-2007, 11:23 PM
#57
Uses turn signals in my
When I got a transmission with the PCM change, it felt just the same powerwise, just rougher and more quick 1st_>2nd shift. I did not have the fuel pump replaced. I have the service bullitin for Acura (which I found in the trans section) and only certain Vin #s have to have the fuel pump replaced. I got my car dynoed last friday and got pretty good #s for an A/T (dyno is in this sub-section)
What is all this talk about Neo resets?
. I just got mine installed on friday and it hasn't reset or anything thus far. Are you guys using the boomslang harnesses?
What is all this talk about Neo resets?
. I just got mine installed on friday and it hasn't reset or anything thus far. Are you guys using the boomslang harnesses?
11-23-2007, 12:47 AM
#58
Originally Posted by TCM 01 CL-S
When I got a transmission with the PCM change, it felt just the same powerwise, just rougher and more quick 1st_>2nd shift. I did not have the fuel pump replaced. I have the service bullitin for Acura (which I found in the trans section) and only certain Vin #s have to have the fuel pump replaced. I got my car dynoed last friday and got pretty good #s for an A/T (dyno is in this sub-section)
What is all this talk about Neo resets? . I just got mine installed on friday and it hasn't reset or anything thus far. Are you guys using the boomslang harnesses?
What is all this talk about Neo resets?
. I just got mine installed on friday and it hasn't reset or anything thus far. Are you guys using the boomslang harnesses?Just remembered that at one point I did blow my 100A battery fuse and it wasn't in the car for about a whole day, I suppose that might be a good reason for it.
11-23-2007, 08:29 PM
#59
SOLD
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Lakehood, CO
Age: 40
Posts: 1,210
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by poisx7
wierd. thats not too good.
b4 the tranny swap i beleieve stock should be smthing like 212 whp.
So the tranny swap is not good for WHP seems it seems it is not as effecient as the old setup.
213 whp with headers after reflash = not too good
b4 the tranny swap i beleieve stock should be smthing like 212 whp.
So the tranny swap is not good for WHP seems it seems it is not as effecient as the old setup.
213 whp with headers after reflash = not too good
12-09-2007, 06:08 PM
#63
SOLD
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Lakehood, CO
Age: 40
Posts: 1,210
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Have you dyno'd again since replacing the IMRC? I'm interested to see the results...Also, I don't know why I never correlated the two before and assumed it was ecu, but that 20/20 dip may have been due jacked up IMRC. Haven't gotten enough dyno runs in to research that more. I am about to sell it though, no use putting more money into it.
01-08-2008, 09:37 AM
#64
Advanced
Join Date: Sep 2005
Age: 37
Posts: 83
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I just got my car dynoed with i/h/e/p/s and tuned with apexi neo. My car is making good power at 257 whp and 222 wtq but i was wondering why my a/f ratio at lower rpms wanted to be a little lean. When i am at WOT and around 4.5k and up it goes to a nice 13.6-13.8. I dont have the dyno sheets but i have a nice consistent slope on the hp curve and the torque is flat as hell. When i added more fuel i lost hp, and the hp curve and torque looked like shit. is this because of fuel pump or injectors?
01-08-2008, 10:01 PM
#65
Originally Posted by joeman892
I just got my car dynoed with i/h/e/p/s and tuned with apexi neo. My car is making good power at 257 whp and 222 wtq but i was wondering why my a/f ratio at lower rpms wanted to be a little lean. When i am at WOT and around 4.5k and up it goes to a nice 13.6-13.8. I dont have the dyno sheets but i have a nice consistent slope on the hp curve and the torque is flat as hell. When i added more fuel i lost hp, and the hp curve and torque looked like shit. is this because of fuel pump or injectors?
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Pham Alvan
2G TL (1999-2003)
38
03-16-2016 09:17 AM
