CLS '03 6MT - 230 hp - 198 torque
08-09-2002, 10:33 PM
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6-Speed DYNO test today – Results & Pics
Went for a DYNO test today.
I was going to PASS because it was so damn HOT out, but decided to go anyway.
Performance enhancements on the car are a Xephyr Cold Air Intake and Comptech Headers.
Mods that may reduce my performance a bit are my 18” Chrome Blingers and wider rubber.
The car has 4,400 miles on it.
It was 87 Degrees out but humidity was relatively low.
There were FIVE runs total done in either 3rd or 4th gear.
Highest reading was 230.2 in 3rd and the lowest was 226.6 in 4th.
Here YA go.
Expert opinions welcome.
Shawn S
I was going to PASS because it was so damn HOT out, but decided to go anyway.
Performance enhancements on the car are a Xephyr Cold Air Intake and Comptech Headers.
Mods that may reduce my performance a bit are my 18” Chrome Blingers and wider rubber.
The car has 4,400 miles on it.
It was 87 Degrees out but humidity was relatively low.
There were FIVE runs total done in either 3rd or 4th gear.
Highest reading was 230.2 in 3rd and the lowest was 226.6 in 4th.
Here YA go.
Expert opinions welcome.
Shawn S
08-09-2002, 10:44 PM
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You just love showing off them wheels huh? lol Hmmm does anyone know what 230whp= to at the crank? 
Also, its possible the intake detracted from your performance since it was so hot outside. Can someone confirm or correct this
Also, its possible the intake detracted from your performance since it was so hot outside. Can someone confirm or correct this
08-09-2002, 10:47 PM
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why in the world would you waste your money on dyno'ing your car with your heavy wheels on, i bet you lost a good amount of hp. 275 at the crank would be around 230 at the wheels for a manual..........but he should be pushing 240-245 in normal conditions with stock rims.
08-09-2002, 10:56 PM
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Originally posted by 3.2cl-s
why in the world would you waste your money on dyno'ing your car with your heavy wheels on.....
why in the world would you waste your money on dyno'ing your car with your heavy wheels on.....
Why put stock wheels on if I don’t run with them ???
The slight loss of HP for the KICK ASS LOOK is a trade-off I’m willing to make.
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08-09-2002, 10:59 PM
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By the way, my wheels/tires are EXACTLY the same weight as the stock 17’s.
I measured both when I was doing the swap.
48 pounds with tires mounted I think.
I know the overall rotating mass is larger though, so THAT hurts.
Shawn S
I measured both when I was doing the swap.
48 pounds with tires mounted I think.
I know the overall rotating mass is larger though, so THAT hurts.
Shawn S
08-09-2002, 11:01 PM
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You know, i did notice when i took off my rim one time, that they are very heavy for stock rims...........but you are right the difference in rotation mass will hurt you.
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08-09-2002, 11:44 PM
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Originally posted by Shawn S
By the way, my wheels/tires are EXACTLY the same weight as the stock 17’s.
I measured both when I was doing the swap.
48 pounds with tires mounted I think.
By the way, my wheels/tires are EXACTLY the same weight as the stock 17’s.
I measured both when I was doing the swap.
48 pounds with tires mounted I think.
The weather does hurt as timing will be affected and no SAE compensation will account for that. IMO, that doesn't look bad, again, with all things considered.
08-10-2002, 12:10 AM
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Yes, temperature makes a HUGE difference, especially with a turbo.
This place (KD Rotary) specializes in RX-7’s.
Last week we had a major heat wave in eastern PA.
Temps were in the upper 90’s all week.
They had a Gen III Mazda RX-7 there with MAJOR MODS and aftermarket twin turbos.
In the afternoon it tested at just over 300 HP.
The owner was disappointed so he paid everyone to come back at midnight.
With the cooler temps they got the sucker to produce over 340 HP !!!!!
Shawn S
This place (KD Rotary) specializes in RX-7’s.
Last week we had a major heat wave in eastern PA.
Temps were in the upper 90’s all week.
They had a Gen III Mazda RX-7 there with MAJOR MODS and aftermarket twin turbos.
In the afternoon it tested at just over 300 HP.
The owner was disappointed so he paid everyone to come back at midnight.
With the cooler temps they got the sucker to produce over 340 HP !!!!!
Shawn S
08-10-2002, 01:22 AM
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How come the numbers are so low? I was expecting at leat 240 even with the temp so high, Shawn, are you planning on doing another run with the temps being cooler?
08-10-2002, 01:27 AM
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Originally posted by Titand19
How come the numbers are so low? I was expecting at leat 240 even with the temp so high, Shawn, are you planning on doing another run with the temps being cooler?
How come the numbers are so low? I was expecting at leat 240 even with the temp so high, Shawn, are you planning on doing another run with the temps being cooler?
08-10-2002, 10:02 AM
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Originally posted by amirsafdari
ncie irmns looks sbigger pics?
ncie irmns looks sbigger pics?
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08-10-2002, 11:10 AM
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230 hp at the wheels is like a 40hp increase over stock.......I'd say thats pretty fuggin good!!!!!!!!
230 hp at the wheels is like a 40hp increase over stock.......I'd say thats pretty fuggin good!!!!!!!!
It's only 10-15HP over a stock 6MT. But like has been said, temp, humidity, etc. play a factor, as well as inconsistencies between dynos.
08-10-2002, 01:38 PM
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Originally posted by Shawn S
Me thinks someone was drinking pretty heavily around 3:30AM last night.
Shawn S
Me thinks someone was drinking pretty heavily around 3:30AM last night.
Shawn S
Nice runs Shawn. Get the focker back when it's cooler out...
08-10-2002, 01:44 PM
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Originally posted by Crazy Sellout
Mike, are you ever going to get another dyno run?
Mike, are you ever going to get another dyno run?
As soon as they're installed I'll get another dyno and reveal the mods.
08-10-2002, 01:50 PM
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Originally posted by darrinb
damn, so mike is gettin more power to the wheels w/ the auto tranny than shawn w/ the 6 speed, thats crazy and some what hard to believe
damn, so mike is gettin more power to the wheels w/ the auto tranny than shawn w/ the 6 speed, thats crazy and some what hard to believe
Next dyno session I'm putting the stock wheels back on for the 1st run and then the SSRs go on to see if how hp they free up. I'm guess 4-8 hp, but we'll see.
08-10-2002, 02:01 PM
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Shawn, i think you should of dynoed in 4th or 5th to get the most accurate info. your 3rd is 1:1.700, when the auto is 1:1.021.
if you look at your 4th and 5th its much closer to 1:1.
Automatic
Automatic / Manual
1st
2.563
2.563 / 3.933
2nd
1.552
1.552 / 2.478
3rd
1.021
1.021 / 1.700
4th
0.653
0.653 / 1.250
5th
0.470
0.470 / 0.976
6th
na
na / 0.771
Reverse
1.846
1.846 / 4.008
Final
4.428
4.428 / 3.286
if you look at your 4th and 5th its much closer to 1:1.
Automatic
Automatic / Manual
1st
2.563
2.563 / 3.933
2nd
1.552
1.552 / 2.478
3rd
1.021
1.021 / 1.700
4th
0.653
0.653 / 1.250
5th
0.470
0.470 / 0.976
6th
na
na / 0.771
Reverse
1.846
1.846 / 4.008
Final
4.428
4.428 / 3.286
08-10-2002, 05:14 PM
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Originally posted by darrinb
damn, so mike is gettin more power to the wheels w/ the auto tranny than shawn w/ the 6 speed, thats crazy and some what hard to believe
damn, so mike is gettin more power to the wheels w/ the auto tranny than shawn w/ the 6 speed, thats crazy and some what hard to believe
and he's not the only one, believe it :P
08-10-2002, 05:43 PM
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Originally posted by Zapata
look at all the auto's in here trying to rationalize the slowness of their cars :shakehd: Remember what Scalbert was putting to the ground?????
look at all the auto's in here trying to rationalize the slowness of their cars :shakehd: Remember what Scalbert was putting to the ground?????
and in english this means....
08-10-2002, 07:43 PM
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and in english this means....
and in english this means....
08-10-2002, 07:46 PM
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it is what it is.
not like he's going to the track anyway. this dyno was done so shawn could post it w/ some pics.
not like he's going to the track anyway. this dyno was done so shawn could post it w/ some pics.
08-10-2002, 10:19 PM
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Originally posted by EricS
Oh yeah. Shawn, can you post your dyno files? The best runs in 3rd and 4th would be ok. Wanna overlay them over mine to see how they compare. TIA
Oh yeah. Shawn, can you post your dyno files? The best runs in 3rd and 4th would be ok. Wanna overlay them over mine to see how they compare. TIA
I took along a floppy disc, but the tech didn’t know how to export the file or even a JPG to it.
I asked to give it try myself, but they weren’t too crazy about allowing that.
Too bad…
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08-10-2002, 10:22 PM
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Originally posted by Mike
Nice catch Joe! Back to the dyno for you Shawn. Maybe they'll cut you a break because the car was dyno'd in the wrong gear?
Nice catch Joe! Back to the dyno for you Shawn. Maybe they'll cut you a break because the car was dyno'd in the wrong gear?
I think full REDLINE in 5th gear would be WAY too fast to push the front tires when hooked up to a stationary machine like this.
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08-10-2002, 10:26 PM
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Originally posted by JRock
Go check that actuator again, Shawn.
Go check that actuator again, Shawn.
I checked it the day before the DYNO run.
Plus, I believe that little dip in the charts at about 3,800 RPM is signifying when the actuator opened.
Am I right on this ???
Shawn S
08-10-2002, 10:38 PM
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Originally posted by Shawn S
Plus, I believe that little dip in the charts at about 3,800 RPM is
Am I right on this ???
Plus, I believe that little dip in the charts at about 3,800 RPM is
Am I right on this ???
08-10-2002, 10:49 PM
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Originally posted by Zapata
look at all the auto's in here trying to rationalize the slowness of their cars :shakehd: Remember what Scalbert was putting to the ground?????
look at all the auto's in here trying to rationalize the slowness of their cars :shakehd: Remember what Scalbert was putting to the ground?????