01 CL-S 244.5HP, 213.6ft-lb
11-16-2007, 05:46 PM
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01 CL-S 244.5HP, 213.6ft-lb
Before (headers, intake, UR ud crank pulley, synthetic oil) and after (everything +P2R Intake Manifold Plenums, and Apexi Neo with dyno tune).
11-16-2007, 06:04 PM
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Hey, good job. I see that I would put down about the same numbers down as your before P2R/Neo dyno. Looks like you got a good twelve horsies out of those other mods. How much did they run you and how much different are they than the Outlaw plenum/TB spacers I have? 
edit: Those torque gains are what our Hondas need.
edit: Those torque gains are what our Hondas need.
11-16-2007, 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by 02type-s
Wow, nice torque gains. How does the ass dyno feel?
For those who want to know the gains of the plenums before the dyno tune, were approx an 8hp increase, and 13ftlb increase.
11-16-2007, 08:23 PM
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11-16-2007, 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by swift22
thanks for clarifying what the gains were without the neo and tuning, great to know.
What was your A/F before tuning?
etc
thanks
What was your A/F before tuning?
etc
thanks
I forgot what the a/f ratio was before tuning unfortunately
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11-17-2007, 12:40 PM
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Damn I wish you would have tuned the car then put them on, dynoed and then once again tuned the car, seems like a good part of that is just from tuning, I mean no doubt the chambers helped but it would have been nice to see how your car went from being optimized to chambered abd once again optimized for the chambers so the difference is not hinged so much on the NEO.
Otherwise nice power for a AT
Otherwise nice power for a AT
11-17-2007, 02:00 PM
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I did not mess with his A/F settings in the NEO. If you look at his air maps, its all at 0 except for his cruising. I adjusted the NEO to give him better gas mileage, but first pull after installing plenums was between 8-10 hp. I then lowered the vtec and see the 12 hp gain over the full pull. But we did not mess with the full throttle Air Fuel ratio. But you guys also got to remember, the more bolts on's you have on your car. The more you will be required to do a tune when installing these plenums.
In this case, we seen a gain without even doing a tune. So we were pretty happy. I think if this car did not have a stock exhaust system, we could pull out more hp, and then be required to have to adjust the A/F ratio some.
In this case, we seen a gain without even doing a tune. So we were pretty happy. I think if this car did not have a stock exhaust system, we could pull out more hp, and then be required to have to adjust the A/F ratio some.
11-17-2007, 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by PowerRev
Car was dynoed in 3rd. It automatically switches from 1st to second really quickly on the dyno actually. Then I put it into 3rd.
11-17-2007, 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by typeR
the way he described the 1-2 upshift that shouldnt of been an issue in ss
I had a question for you. It seemed from the vids that you posted that the car was dyno'd in 2nd...You know it is supposed to be third right?
11-17-2007, 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by TCM 01 CL-S
He was mentioning that because of this post:
11-17-2007, 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrisQ1980
Very nice to see that an Auto CL-S can put down impressive numbers with basic bolt-ons and a good tune. Do you plan on running it in the 1/4 to see what it can do?
Oh btw did you have the P2R TB Spacer on there and the thermo gaskets?
11-18-2007, 03:33 AM
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I did not mess with his A/F settings in the NEO. If you look at his air maps, its all at 0 except for his cruising. I adjusted the NEO to give him better gas mileage, but first pull after installing plenums was between 8-10 hp. I then lowered the vtec and see the 12 hp gain over the full pull. But we did not mess with the full throttle Air Fuel ratio. But you guys also got to remember, the more bolts on's you have on your car. The more you will be required to do a tune when installing these plenums.
In this case, we seen a gain without even doing a tune. So we were pretty happy. I think if this car did not have a stock exhaust system, we could pull out more hp, and then be required to have to adjust the A/F ratio some.
In this case, we seen a gain without even doing a tune. So we were pretty happy. I think if this car did not have a stock exhaust system, we could pull out more hp, and then be required to have to adjust the A/F ratio some.
11-19-2007, 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrisQ1980
Very nice to see that an Auto CL-S can put down impressive numbers with basic bolt-ons and a good tune. Do you plan on running it in the 1/4 to see what it can do?
11-19-2007, 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by gc86
Wait.... im confused, so you didnt tune his car? just lowered his vtec point?
11-19-2007, 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by gc86
Which thread? I searched vtec point in the Plenum thread and didn't come up with anything.
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11-19-2007, 10:59 PM
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I see it, but he didnt say what he lowered it too? I want to lower mine also if there is some sort of gain, but did he need to tune the NEO to compensate for the lower VTEC engagement? more info is greatly appreciated.
11-20-2007, 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by gc86
I see it, but he didnt say what he lowered it too? I want to lower mine also if there is some sort of gain, but did he need to tune the NEO to compensate for the lower VTEC engagement? more info is greatly appreciated.
12-04-2007, 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by PowerRev
I did not mess with his A/F settings in the NEO. If you look at his air maps, its all at 0 except for his cruising. I adjusted the NEO to give him better gas mileage, but first pull after installing plenums was between 8-10 hp. I then lowered the vtec and see the 12 hp gain over the full pull. But we did not mess with the full throttle Air Fuel ratio. But you guys also got to remember, the more bolts on's you have on your car. The more you will be required to do a tune when installing these plenums.
In this case, we seen a gain without even doing a tune. So we were pretty happy. I think if this car did not have a stock exhaust system, we could pull out more hp, and then be required to have to adjust the A/F ratio some.
In this case, we seen a gain without even doing a tune. So we were pretty happy. I think if this car did not have a stock exhaust system, we could pull out more hp, and then be required to have to adjust the A/F ratio some.
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I still haven't seen anything in this or the P2R thread regarding lowering of VTEC engagement and further tuning. If the VTEC engagement point was lowered to let's say 4400, the cam changover does occur BUT the ECU doesn't fully recognize the changeover until the normal 4800. Therefore it doesn't start to lean out the engine to assist with increased output like it's supposed to in VTEC. So, without changing the VTEC unmatch, in this example you would be losing potential gains between 4400-4800.
Nice color display on the Neo.
Nice color display on the Neo.
12-05-2007, 02:45 PM
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I still haven't seen anything in this or the P2R thread regarding lowering of VTEC engagement and further tuning. If the VTEC engagement point was lowered to let's say 4400, the cam changover does occur BUT the ECU doesn't fully recognize the changeover until the normal 4800. Therefore it doesn't start to lean out the engine to assist with increased output like it's supposed to in VTEC. So, without changing the VTEC unmatch, in this example you would be losing potential gains between 4400-4800.
Nice color display on the Neo.
Nice color display on the Neo.
Yeah the display is pretty nice, although I usually leave it tucked away, It can get kind of distracting .
12-06-2007, 03:04 AM
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Originally Posted by NightRider
I still haven't seen anything in this or the P2R thread regarding lowering of VTEC engagement and further tuning. If the VTEC engagement point was lowered to let's say 4400, the cam changover does occur BUT the ECU doesn't fully recognize the changeover until the normal 4800. Therefore it doesn't start to lean out the engine to assist with increased output like it's supposed to in VTEC. So, without changing the VTEC unmatch, in this example you would be losing potential gains between 4400-4800.
Nice color display on the Neo.
Nice color display on the Neo.
12-06-2007, 03:25 AM
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2x, I set my vtec engagement to 4100 like you did TCM but I can feel the dip in power between 4100-4800, i'd like to hear more about this from sean.
12-06-2007, 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by gc86
2x, I set my vtec engagement to 4100 like you did TCM but I can feel the dip in power between 4100-4800, i'd like to hear more about this from sean.
12-07-2007, 02:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Accord_V6_400m
Yeah you need to tune the VTEC unmatch to compensate for the gap.
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There are directions for changing the unmatch in the instruction booklet, though there is a bit of math involved...as for the dyno, I suppose that would be the best way to ensure you did it right.