Wow! 20 HP From Cold Air Intake...
10-10-2002, 02:23 PM
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Wow! 20 HP From Cold Air Intake...
I was bored yesterday, so I bought the October "Honda Tuning" magazine where I noticed they did an air intake comparo. Page 60, REM Cold Air Intake...a gain of 20 HORSEPOWER and 5.3 lbs of torque! Amazing. I got to get me one of these!
10-10-2002, 02:35 PM
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Originally posted by danny25
If you mean AEM, I'll trade you mine for your Ice Box.
If you mean AEM, I'll trade you mine for your Ice Box.
10-10-2002, 02:44 PM
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Originally posted by jimcol711
thats such a load of shit, NO CAI for any car does THAT much....not by a long shot.....
thats such a load of shit, NO CAI for any car does THAT much....not by a long shot.....
10-10-2002, 02:59 PM
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Geez...I don't know guys, here is some more info off the page:
Price: $ 392.81
Difficulty Rating: 3 (It's not like performing an engine swap, but relocating the windshield washer bottle is a pain)
Performance: +20.7 hp, +5.3 lb-ft
Outside Temperature (F).........87
Underhood Temp. (F).............120.8
Coolant Temp. (F)..................204
Intake Temp. (F).....................96.5
Long Term Fuel Correction (%)....-0.11
Price: $ 392.81
Difficulty Rating: 3 (It's not like performing an engine swap, but relocating the windshield washer bottle is a pain)
Performance: +20.7 hp, +5.3 lb-ft
Outside Temperature (F).........87
Underhood Temp. (F).............120.8
Coolant Temp. (F)..................204
Intake Temp. (F).....................96.5
Long Term Fuel Correction (%)....-0.11
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10-10-2002, 03:15 PM
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Originally posted by Pappy
Geez...I don't know guys, here is some more info off the page:
Price: $ 392.81
Difficulty Rating: 3 (It's not like performing an engine swap, but relocating the windshield washer bottle is a pain)
Performance: +20.7 hp, +5.3 lb-ft
Outside Temperature (F).........87
Underhood Temp. (F).............120.8
Coolant Temp. (F)..................204
Intake Temp. (F).....................96.5
Long Term Fuel Correction (%)....-0.11
Geez...I don't know guys, here is some more info off the page:
Price: $ 392.81
Difficulty Rating: 3 (It's not like performing an engine swap, but relocating the windshield washer bottle is a pain)
Performance: +20.7 hp, +5.3 lb-ft
Outside Temperature (F).........87
Underhood Temp. (F).............120.8
Coolant Temp. (F)..................204
Intake Temp. (F).....................96.5
Long Term Fuel Correction (%)....-0.11
10-10-2002, 03:19 PM
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Here's more...
Stock...N/A
Injen...+9.2 hp and +2.9 lb-ft of torque
REM....+20.7 hp and +5.3 lb-ft
REM Short Ram....+9.2 hp and +2.4 lb-ft
DC Sports Direct Air Charger.....+9.2 and +2.4 lb-ft
DC Sports Cold Air Intake....+19.7 hp and +5.7 lb-ft
Jackson Racing...+7.8 hp and +4.2 lb-ft
K&N Drop-In...-0.1 hp and 0 lb-ft
K&N Typhoon...+7.4 hp and +3.1 lb-ft
Stock...N/A
Injen...+9.2 hp and +2.9 lb-ft of torque
REM....+20.7 hp and +5.3 lb-ft
REM Short Ram....+9.2 hp and +2.4 lb-ft
DC Sports Direct Air Charger.....+9.2 and +2.4 lb-ft
DC Sports Cold Air Intake....+19.7 hp and +5.7 lb-ft
Jackson Racing...+7.8 hp and +4.2 lb-ft
K&N Drop-In...-0.1 hp and 0 lb-ft
K&N Typhoon...+7.4 hp and +3.1 lb-ft
10-10-2002, 03:38 PM
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Re: This info...
Originally posted by allmotor_2000
Is this all specifically for the 3.2 liter VTEC motor on the CL-S and TL-S??
Is this all specifically for the 3.2 liter VTEC motor on the CL-S and TL-S??
www.aempower.com
www.dcsports.com
www.hondata.com
www.injen.com
www.jacksonracing.com
www.knfilters.com
10-10-2002, 04:20 PM
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AEM: Hey what's up ____ (magazine), we deposited $ xxxxx into your bank acct already. Please add another zero after the dyno number you got with our intake.
MAG: No problem AEM. It has been taken care of.
Consumer: wow, AEM, 20+ whp gain..me buy..me buy...
MAG: No problem AEM. It has been taken care of.
Consumer: wow, AEM, 20+ whp gain..me buy..me buy...
10-10-2002, 04:21 PM
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You mean AEM pappy, you keep saying REM. Actually AEM tested their cold air intake on a 2001 Cl-S and gains were 12.2 hp and 7.8 lb/ft of torque. It does help, but 20 seems inflated, like ford mustang's horsepower!
10-10-2002, 05:01 PM
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Originally posted by Red Rider
Wait til OBX puts out their new intake, it will be just as good as AEM, but will only be $50
Wait til OBX puts out their new intake, it will be just as good as AEM, but will only be $50
10-10-2002, 05:07 PM
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OK guys, if you notice the DC sports CAI did about the same. I remember there were a couple of people who dynoed the AEM CAI on the GS-R, and were receiving excellent hp from them. This is believable. Don't forget they already make a CAI for our cars already, and unfortunately we dont receive that much. Different cars react to mods differently. I'm sure people still cant belive us, when we tell them we get 30hp from just headers. Keep that in mind.
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10-10-2002, 05:08 PM
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Reality check time...
ENOUGH -- this is just silly. Here is the BLURB as PUSHED over on AEM's site.
12.5 HP PEAK GAIN
(NOT MAX GAIN AND NOT 20 HP)
"...As you can see on the comparison graph for the RSX Type-S, AEM's Cold Air system netted a peak gain of 12.5 hp and 5.5 lbs/ft of torque (we determine peak gains by taking the highest base number regardless of the rpm and the highest test number regardless of rpm and subtracting), with the biggest horsepower gain occurring at 7,250 rpm (12.6 hp) and the biggest torque gain occurring at 4,750 rpm (12.1 lbs/ft). The AEM CAS outperformed all of the intake systems throughout the powerband...."
LINK: http://www.aempower.com/dyno.htm
AEM DID THE TESTING... NOT HONDATUNING...
12.5 HP PEAK GAIN
(NOT MAX GAIN AND NOT 20 HP)"...As you can see on the comparison graph for the RSX Type-S, AEM's Cold Air system netted a peak gain of 12.5 hp and 5.5 lbs/ft of torque (we determine peak gains by taking the highest base number regardless of the rpm and the highest test number regardless of rpm and subtracting), with the biggest horsepower gain occurring at 7,250 rpm (12.6 hp) and the biggest torque gain occurring at 4,750 rpm (12.1 lbs/ft). The AEM CAS outperformed all of the intake systems throughout the powerband...."
LINK: http://www.aempower.com/dyno.htm
AEM DID THE TESTING... NOT HONDATUNING...
10-10-2002, 05:20 PM
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Originally posted by moomaster_99
WOW!!! Dawg!!! That is krazy horsepower....almost as much as when i add sticker.....
WOW!!! Dawg!!! That is krazy horsepower....almost as much as when i add sticker.....
10-10-2002, 08:17 PM
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He's talking about the acura-cl sticker, you didnt know, they add like 15 hp, and one on each side that gives you 30.
about the headers, isnt that 30 hp to the wheels, and like 35-40 hp figure, no one really believes us, but then again people have no clue the cl is fast, i know its not a sports car but it packs a punch.
about the headers, isnt that 30 hp to the wheels, and like 35-40 hp figure, no one really believes us, but then again people have no clue the cl is fast, i know its not a sports car but it packs a punch.
10-11-2002, 02:42 AM
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it all depends what part you are putting it into what car. some parts are specifically made for a certain car therfore letting that part run more powerful and efficeint. but 20hp still sound too much who knows. technolgies these days
10-11-2002, 09:19 AM
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What are you PEOPLE talking about ... if you put an REM (AEM) sticker on your car it gives you an extra 12 horses ... besides my weapon R intake gives me 50hp gains to the wheels
10-11-2002, 11:53 AM
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Originally posted by 6speedS
You mean AEM pappy, you keep saying REM. Actually AEM tested their cold air intake on a 2001 Cl-S and gains were 12.2 hp and 7.8 lb/ft of torque. It does help, but 20 seems inflated, like ford mustang's horsepower!
You mean AEM pappy, you keep saying REM. Actually AEM tested their cold air intake on a 2001 Cl-S and gains were 12.2 hp and 7.8 lb/ft of torque. It does help, but 20 seems inflated, like ford mustang's horsepower!
10-11-2002, 11:57 AM
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Originally posted by juniorbean
OMG... do you guys read?? Look at Eric's post about half-way up the page... from AEM's website... 12.5hp peak / 5.5 lbs or torque increase
OMG... do you guys read?? Look at Eric's post about half-way up the page... from AEM's website... 12.5hp peak / 5.5 lbs or torque increase
10-11-2002, 12:26 PM
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Pay for misinformation -- I think not...
Originally posted by Pappy
Read the magazine
Read the magazine
Why bother reading the magazine when they can't even get the three-letters (A E M) of their host correct?????
IT's AEM NOT REM (commonly used as an abbreviation for "remark").
And, if I want to get information, would I want to get second hand information with proven errors (REM != AEM)
Are you really trying to say that "Honda Tuning" got it right and AEM doesn't even know how to spell their moniker?
AEM hosted intake comparison test link: http://www.aempower.com/dyno.htm
Excerpts:
"...The purpose of AEM's dyno day was to put to bed some inconsistencies regarding the testing of our intake system for the Acura RSX. We invited RSX owners and other performance enthusiasts to AEM's facility, so that they could become familiar with how we develop and manufacture our products. They also had the opportunity to have their questions answered first-hand by our engineering team. Representatives from three major enthusiast publications were present: Keith Buglewicz from Honda Tuning, Gary Castillo from Import Tuner, and Jimmy Louis from Super Street. Additionally, we had three representatives from American Honda Motor Co. attend the event, and representatives from Injen were present at R&D Dyno. After the tour of our facility, everyone went to R&D Dyno for the shootout portion of the day...."
"... DYNO DAY TESTING RESULTS
We tested a base model RSX and Type-S RSX with both our top-of-the-line CASs and economy Short Rams, Injen's Short Rams, and the factory air boxes for baseline numbers.
The two vehicles we used for testing were brought to us earlier in the week so that we could relocate the windshield washer fluid reservoir to allow for quicker installation of the CASs during testing. The vehicles were given back to their respective owners a couple of days prior to the event with the factory air box installed.
We tested the RSX base model first in stock configuration to create a baseline, then tested the Injen Short Ram, then the AEM Short Ram, and finally the AEM Cold Air System, using the methods described above. AEM technicians performed all of the installation procedures, in plain view for everyone to witness. All of the systems were installed with the vehicles still strapped to the dyno, without relocating or moving any of the fans. We used the same testing procedure for the Type-S model.
The first eight dyno sheets show that we acquired three consistent runs for each testing configuration. One thing that we would like to point out is that these results were also consistent for the 8 or 10 RSX club members who tested their vehicles independently after the shootout was completed. We had multiple AEM-equipped RSX Type-Ss break 180 hp...."
"...As you can see on the comparison graph for the RSX Type-S, AEM's Cold Air system netted a peak gain of 12.5 hp and 5.5 lbs/ft of torque (we determine peak gains by taking the highest base number regardless of the rpm and the highest test number regardless of rpm and subtracting), with the biggest horsepower gain occurring at 7,250 rpm (12.6 hp) and the biggest torque gain occurring at 4,750 rpm (12.1 lbs/ft). The AEM CAS outperformed all of the intake systems throughout the powerband.
AEM's Short Ram System had a peak gain of 4.6 hp and 3.9 lbs/ft of torque, with the biggest horsepower and torque gains occurring at 6,750 rpm (8.3 hp and 6.5 lbs/ft). From 4,250 rpm to 8,000 rpm there was a 4-8 hp gain with AEM's Short Ram. Keep in mind that this is our economy intake system. We make the Cold Air Intake system for those who want the ultimate performance.
Injen's intake system made a peak gain of 7.7 hp and 2.7 lbs/ft of torque, with the biggest horsepower and torque gains occurring at 7,250 rpm (8.2 hp and 5.9 lbs/ft). Although Injen did have a higher peak number at a higher rpm, the AEM Short Ram performed better from 3,500 to 7,000 rpm...."
The writer clearly “muffed” the numbers and couldn't even manage to get the host's name correct. Why would anyone want to pay for second-hand misinformation?
10-11-2002, 12:46 PM
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Originally posted by Smitty
IF you put R.E.M. in your car, i am sure their asses will weigh it down and you will lose horsepower... ROFLOL...
Smitty
IF you put R.E.M. in your car, i am sure their asses will weigh it down and you will lose horsepower... ROFLOL...
Smitty
10-11-2002, 12:46 PM
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Originally posted by Smitty
IF you put R.E.M. in your car, i am sure their asses will weigh it down and you will lose horsepower... ROFLOL...
Smitty
IF you put R.E.M. in your car, i am sure their asses will weigh it down and you will lose horsepower... ROFLOL...
Smitty
REM == RES from the darkside (come over to the darkside for more HP)...
http://ask.yahoo.com/ask/20010619.html
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