03_3.2_type-s

My buddy just got an srt 4 and is completely stock.
I would like to run him but not sure who would win.

I know what theses cars are capable of doing in magazines and articles, but has anyone actually seen stock srt-4 at the track. What do they trap at? at my track srt-4's are always modded, so i cant really get an idea of how fast they are stock
I was thinking my best race would be from a roll.
My mods are in my sig

03 CL TypeS

I think they trap 100 stock!

zoltanh

From the looks of these stats, you probably dont have much of a chance unless the guy has 2 broken arms

Obtained from C&D December, 2002
0-60: 5.6 sec

1/4 Mile: 14.2 sec

1/4 Speed: 102

03 CL TypeS

No fair, they have BFG KDW's stock and we have... sigh... Michelin MXV4's or whatever they are!

bigguyonbike

it's possible. i use to have the exact same mods with the exact same track time as you and still lost to a stock srt-4. only by like 1/2 car length. they run 100mph trap speed usually.

from a roll it would be close, but i think the edge goes to the neon because are car is a pig.

03_3.2_type-s

road and Track's magazine says

0-60 5.9
1/4 mile 14.5 @ 98.4

this is way i dont wanna base 1/4 times from magazines i wanted to know if anyone actaully seen stock srt-4 run at the track

Thanks anyway for your input

zoltanh

It may be fast, but in the end it still a piece of shit dodge neon. A $12,000 base car with a turbo and some fake carbon fiber.

03_3.2_type-s

lol, i agree with you

03 CL TypeS

Regardless of that, it's the fastest production FWD car of all time... and it sells for 20G's.

The car is a huge success compared to a CL. An overall worse vehicle, but more successfull never the less.

CL Platano

I think you should have a chance but keep in mind that sucker is light as hell too.

Time For Sleeep

Unless your friend isn't on the ball with his driving, I don't think you can take him =/.

Dem1K

iTrader: (1)

I think it will be damn close...however I think I'll give the edge to the srt-4. Some of you are making it seem like he'll get stomped on. I don't see that happening.

Chopsie

Not a large ass stomping, but yes, you'll lose, unless he takes 10 shots of whiskey before running.

drewJ32A2

You cant beat one off the line unless hes a shitty driver. But I have raced one that had rims im not sure if it had anything else but I doubt it. When I raced him it was from 60 to about 115 and I beat him. So I think you could take him from a 40 punch to 110, or when your hit 4th gear.

fiveoh-tl

Hopefully he misses a shift. With equal drivers, he should take you by 4-6 car lenghts. Either way it should be a decent race. Good luck and let us know how it goes.

AMorgCLS

How is it a decent race if you get beat by 4-6 car lengths? I agree with you that we have slim/ no chance, but 4-6 lengths is pushing it dont you think? Good luck with the race nontheless...

Cocoa

iTrader: (2)

I actually know the mods over at the srt4 forums. I know about 9 of them. Out of the group that went to the track, the best time was a 14.7 due to traction issues. All of them were modded in one way or the other.

Your best bet would be to go from a dead stop. That way your friend will have traction issues assuming he wont know how to launch the car right yet. They have a lot of torque in the low end which is something you can use to your advantage.

fuzzy02CLS

iTrader: (2)

If the driver sucks yes. Other wise no.
I've seen stock ones at the track pulling 13.8's & 9's.

zerorwhp

I raced my buddy's 03 CL-S 6-speed from about a 40 roll (he was in 2nd gear, just getting into VTEC) It wasn't really close. I put about 3-4 cars on him by the time we hit 80-90. His car is nicer, mine is faster.

03_3.2_type-s

thanks guys for all your input.
i will race him form a dig and from a roll, and tell you the outcome

03_3.2_type-s

i dont see how he would pull 4-6 car lenths on me, mabey if i was stock it would be a different story

zerorwhp

You have a chance from a dig. 250 lb-ft at the wheels+ 17x6" pizza cutter wheels= very hard to launch.

03_3.2_type-s

do you know what the differnece is between the acr package and stock because my friend has the acr package and says its the same power but just cosmetic upgrades

03 CL TypeS

I believe the ACR is a trim upgrade to the SX2.0, not the SRT-4 !

All Mine

A good friend of mine has an '04 SRT-Floor... All he has is a BOV and a short shifter, and he ran a 14.0@103.1. If that helps at all. If your buddy is a good driver, he'd still own you hard, from a roll. I know from experience. SRT-4's have about 30 more pounds of torque then we have. Have fun with it though.

All Mine

Nah, They have an SRT-4-ACR package. It's an SRT-4 with an adjustible suspension, sway bars, 16x7 BBS wheels, and only comes in white. I believe it can get a racin' stripe, as well.

All Mine

A good friend of mine has an '04 SRT-Whore. When we went to the track last time, he was able to pull down a 14.0@101mph. Only mod's he has are a Mopar Short Throw shifter, and a Mopar BOV. So yeah. I think a stock SRT-4 will own you hard, especially from a roll. He's owned me every time we've tried. Even when we go from like a 5-10 mph roll, when our cars downshift into first, and we still have traction. He kills me. The SRT=4's have around 260lbs of torque. So it would be hard for one of us to beat one. Good luck with it, though! Let us know how it goes!

mrsteve

iTrader: (1)

Stop racing based on magazine stats. Go out to the highway and race him. Alot has to do with the driver.

03_3.2_type-s

your right, my freind just passed by and his has the 16 in bbs mags and ajustiable suspension but his is black, so i guess the ACR package is a cosmetic thing only

zerorwhp

First- You can get an SRT-4 ACR in any available color.

Second- The ACR package isn't just a cosmetic deal. You get double adjustable struts, 16x7 BBS wheels and the seats have pass-thru's for a harness. The smaller diameter wheels are just what the car needs for autocrossing and road racing. MPH magazine did a head to head comparison between the ACR and the Competition Package E-46 M3. There is no comparison.... any M3 is just a sick ride. But on the Streets of Willow Springs, the ACR only gave up .15 seconds per lap to the $50K+ M3.

The smaller diameter wheels and tires also help the ACR trap a little higher in the 1/4 mile. 103 seems to be the norm.

numbaonestunna

those are some pathetically slow times. Last time I went to the track, I saw one neon srt-4 run a 12.8 @ 108 (he had slicks on the front, it was a trip) and another neon run a 12.4 @ 116. They can be hella fast for not much money, don't get it twisted...

All Mine

My bad man. I meant to say that it is available, not only availiable. I misheard my friend.

That's really cool to know. I didn't hear about those things.

Cocoa

iTrader: (2)

Yea I know, but like I said, they had no traction....I know of a turbo eg that runs high 10's and low 11's with traction, and 14's with no traction....

01_CL-S_COUPE

I got crushed by one a year ago, He beat me from behind me. I didn't have a chance.

clpimp12

I raced a few! I won a couple of times and lost to a couple but not by much. If you get a good launch it will be close. the only thing that concerns me is the newer ones i think got a horsepower increase.

r.j-lo

ehhh, ill bring up the old thread.

if modded SRTs were putting down 14.7s then either the drivers sucked or the conditions sucked. Ive NEVER seen those cars run that slow when they are actually trying. Traction is a big problem, but just like any other high torque FWD. Once they hook, be careful. The stock ones on the high side are 14.6 with a new driver and vary to 13.9 with an experienced driver. Traps are about or just a tad over 100mph. Its not really accurate to compare ETs though (that goes for any car). What you should be concerned about are the trap speeds. Sure a CLS can run 14.6 just like the SRT, but if the Acura traps 98 and the other 104 (example) then the CL would get its ass handed to it on the street.

Your best bet would be from a roll because the Acuras top end is pretty good. However, from that position, the Dodge is pretty well set also. Race and see what happens, but honestly, you shouldnt win.

zerorwhp

Hey guys, just a little update. My 03 SRT-4 is going to a new owner Tuesday am. It's been a great little car, but it's time to move on. I'm replacing it with an 06 Accord EXV6 6-speed NAVI. The 6-speed can never lose...

All Mine

Nice choice.

r.j-lo

thats a nice upgrade!

RUF87

I just get everytime I hear what can't or can't be done because of some magazine report.

Ruf