Is it worth spending $4700 for more power??

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Old 11-14-2003, 10:01 PM
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Is it worth spending $4700 for more power??

the local shop i go to in town is an authorized comptech seller. The shop owner quoted me for $4700 for the supercharger tranny cooler, battery, plugs, etc.

Now is it really worth investing $4700 for a 35-40 hp on a cl-s auto???

what should i do???

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Old 11-14-2003, 10:08 PM
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depends on the cost/benefit

I personally don't think the comptech SC is worth it but some would disagree...
Old 11-14-2003, 10:40 PM
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I'd rather get some HREs
Old 11-14-2003, 10:42 PM
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i wouldn't do it since it's auto. i would trade my car and down pay 4700 to buy something better than our cl!
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installed or not installed?
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For $4700 more you could trade in on a GTO.
Old 11-15-2003, 06:38 AM
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Originally posted by genix
installed or not installed?
EVERYTHING installed

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Old 11-15-2003, 07:36 AM
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auto tranny? no way...save your money..... buy yourself a project car.....
Old 11-15-2003, 08:01 AM
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It really depends on if you are planning on keeping the car for some time. If you like the cars the look and feel, etc. and will keep it for two or three more years and the money is not an issue then yes; it is well worth it.

Don't look at the peak numbers only even though I believe it is closer to 40 - 45 WHP gain on the 5AT. Look at what it does for everyday driving. Pulling away from a stop at part throttle provides effortless acceleration.

If you don't really care too much for the car and/or will be getting rid of it in a year or so; then don't do it. This is when it is not worth it.
Old 11-15-2003, 08:46 AM
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I recommend you look at your Financial well-being, if you have money to play then I am sure you would of not thought twice about purchasing it....(Example: children, wife, IRA)

Remember I bury people for a living and life is Extremely short... live each day as if it is your last, because sooner or later it will be.



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Hell yea! Are you kidding me?
Old 11-15-2003, 11:49 AM
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eric, I don't think you should pour more money into that car... save it for something else (i.e. your future business)
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i'd save it for a weekend car. S2000!!!
Old 11-15-2003, 01:34 PM
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Originally posted by Smitty
I recommend you look at your Financial well-being, if you have money to play then I am sure you would of not thought twice about purchasing it....(Example: children, wife, IRA)

Remember I bury people for a living and life is Extremely short... live each day as if it is your last, because sooner or later it will be.



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bury ppl!? are u a hit man?! lol jk
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Cost for the Battery and B & M cooler will be around $135, the irridium plugs came with the kit. Still $4700 sounds really good. Go for it.
Old 11-15-2003, 04:29 PM
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if i had the money i'd do it

the sound of the blower wine is just great
Old 11-15-2003, 04:33 PM
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also i d add it's not just the initial 4700$,but the potential the blower buys you...i'd say with some upgrades like the pulley computer and b pipe one could see more like 75+ whp accross the board...with traction that's a 12 second car
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i'd go w/ the 3.5 block first though
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typeR and darrinb are right, the blower as well as the 3.5 set the foundation for even more power options. So many mods, these cars are great! Turbo would be nice too, right Titand19?
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Get the SC now It kicks ass and i have one so i feel you need to hear it from someone who spent the $$. That's a good deal for everything and install Enjoy the sound and extra power !!
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i dont think so, t/c it instead
Old 11-16-2003, 05:56 AM
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Originally posted by pimpscls
i dont think so, t/c it instead
Thanks for the knowledgeable opinion. But there needs to be a turbo kit available in order to install one.
Old 11-16-2003, 06:46 AM
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Originally posted by Smitty
I recommend you look at your Financial well-being, if you have money to play then I am sure you would of not thought twice about purchasing it....(Example: children, wife, IRA)

Remember I bury people for a living and life is Extremely short... live each day as if it is your last, because sooner or later it will be.



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You know Smitty that is a grim but very very true statement .No matter what you buy as far as a car goes you are going to have to deal with one fact .There is always another guy that got one that goes faster or looks better or rides nicer or whatever .The CL like it's forebear the mighty Legend coupe has gone to whatever car heaven there might be .However both of these cars continue to be subtle stylish machines which in the coming years I truly feel will continue to look good .Much in the same way an old 6 series coupe from BMW looks good even though it has long vanished .At our meets at PAA I saw tons of TL and CL however there were also a few Legends and believe me everyone of us was impressed with the cars but the old Legend coupes still continue to gather envious glances .Everytime a Legend Coupe rolls in for service (not often these days) everybody has a look to see if it is one of the vaunted 6 speed cars .As the CL fades from new car to old car status I think the same will happen to it .
Is it worth it to hop up a CL ,well that depends on you really .Do you want to be accepted by the masses? or do you want to drive something that makes a statement .
I saw a very clever and very true advertisement the other day in my copy of Yachting .It was from Rolex ,in it they say the following :

"The Rolex Sydney Hobart yacht race WILL NEVER DETERMINE who you are .It will ,however,remind you .

Above these words is a picture of a yacht ,below them is a picture of a Rolex .

Stop following the sheep ,look at what guys like Scalbert do with their homecooked intercoolers now that is a statement .

Nuff said ,Jens
Old 11-16-2003, 01:56 PM
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I personally dont think it's worth $4700, but that also depends on how much $$ you have to blow. For $4700 you could get a high mileage fox body mustang and throw a crate engine in it and run low 12's easily, and then you'd still have you CL-S under warranty and 100% reliable for transportation.
Old 11-16-2003, 02:00 PM
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I personally don't think its worth it. After you've got all the bolt-on’s there's really no need to get the S/C. If you want even more power then its time to trade up. However on the other hand if you know your gonna be keeping this car for awhile then perhaps it might be worth it.
Old 11-17-2003, 12:11 PM
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In my opion, I don't feel CT SC gives you the value for your dollar. I think Motor Trend tested a CT SC of CLs some months back. The relative small gain in hp and the decrease in ET is really not significant to speak about. For five grand to get that kind of improvement, it is not worth it My 0.02
Old 11-17-2003, 04:21 PM
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I used to think so, but then i started thinking about other project's. My dsm cost me $2800. For another 2 or 3 g's, i should have a 12 second car. Maybe give or take another G or 2. My shit's AWD too. So no spinning tires at the line. I loved my acura, but i had to look at reality and had to realize that it is still a sports/luxery car. It's a sweet car if you drop it and add an intake and exhaust, but to really start doing motor work, it's not really worth it after a while.
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Worth it!!!
Old 11-17-2003, 08:12 PM
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Nope.
Old 11-18-2003, 02:33 AM
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For those who feel it is not worth it I suggest you re-read this: Supercharger Myths In particular, look at the chart.

For those who say that there are better machines to go fast; I agree. That is not the purpose of the installation for those of us who have installed the blower. At the same point and IMO, headers should even been less likely to be installed with this train of thought as their benefit is only at high revs when you really are racing or driving like it.
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Originally posted by tdtsai
I think Motor Trend tested a CT SC of CLs some months back. The relative small gain in hp and the decrease in ET is really not significant to speak about.
It was actually C&D and did you see the trap speed improvements, 7 MPH. Did you see the change in top gear acceleration; seconds dropped. Lastly, the 0 - 120 (or 130) MPH pulls was tens seconds faster.

In other words, it provides what most want from it; enhanced street ability.
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Originally posted by scalbert
It was actually C&D and did you see the trap speed improvements, 7 MPH. Did you see the change in top gear acceleration; seconds dropped. Lastly, the 0 - 120 (or 130) MPH pulls was tens seconds faster.

In other words, it provides what most want from it; enhanced street ability.
Thanks for setting the record straight Scalbert. I love when i'm doing 70 or 80 in 3rd and punch it up to 115, it just goes like the stock never did, even with headers.
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I have decided to sc at the 100k mark in 1.2 years. My car is paid for now and I will save up the $3.5k (my labor included) for this upgade. I am hoping to have a new feeling car and that will save me $35k on a new car. I keep cars for 200k and this sounds like a fun mod. FUN is what we all need more of. By the way Jens nice write up. And will a 04TL trans fit in my 01 also does it have a factory trans cooler,, I know I have asked this before.
Old 11-18-2003, 04:00 PM
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man this is so tempting but i cant decide

$4700 is a lot of money for this mod. the car is paid off and sometimes i feel like getting rid of the car and sometimes i feel like keeping it for years.

i think realisticly i will be keeping the car for at least another year or two but im so power hungry.

i can and can not afford this mod. i have no bills but i really want to save money for later. but i have never purchased anything this big before (my parents bought me the cl-s) so i dont know what to do!

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If you get a cheaper second car and mod it to make it real fast, that's cool, and you can mod away without worrying about comfort and everyday driveability

If you mod the CL, then what you have is a more fun, even faster luxo cruiser. It won't be as fast as a stripped down, pure muscle car, but it will have the creature comforts and style of the CL, now with even more power. You can have it all, the power and the style/comfort.

Either choice is great, and life is short, do whichever makes you happy!
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It's a sleeper
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Originally posted by Guru
i'd save it for a weekend car. S2000!!!
def wouldn't do it with the auto for that HP.
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Originally posted by PavDog
def wouldn't do it with the auto for that HP.
Why not?
Do you mean it's not enough HP gain?
Do you have an auto?
Do you have $4700 to blow?


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OK I'll be the first one to bring it up, since I've been in a 2002 CL-S with it installed, and saw the benefits. How about Nitrous Express? get 50 HP that way and spend about 3700$ less.
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Originally posted by ModAddict
Why not?
Do you mean it's not enough HP gain?
Do you have an auto?
Do you have $4700 to blow?


1) Yes, for that amount of $$
2) Yes.
3) Yes. And have wrestled with the S/C question myself. If I had 6-speed I'd be down with it. But with auto I just don't see it.

I'd rather get a 2nd car like an s2000, and rig *it* with the S/C.


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