sushimaster

I have an 02 auto CL type S with headers, intake.
My friend Jared has an 03 350z stock, automatic.
And my friend Mike has an automatic Lexus GS400 stock.

Im taking my car to the drag. I know it depends on the driver. But theoreticallaly should I beat them? I want to serve them sum whoopass....

sgmotoring

CL-S should beat the GS400, but 350Z will be a close race.

1SICKLEX

I don't fucking think so bub.

robeaneee

yeah i dunno about beating a gs400..might be close but i don't think the cl-s can hang with the v8

NiteQwill

In an auto, you mean your right foot...

darrinb

i say its all on the driver, all cars are just about equal

rezurex

i would have to agree... gs has stronger engine but its also much heavier. get the s/c and then it will be a different story

JaDia4

wasn't the 400 once advertised as the fastest automatic sedan?

Joe5.0

Itsnot like the GS400 isa13 sec car

If it was a GS430 I'd say it'd be a close race, but you shouldnt have too much problem with a stock GS400. Auto 350Z's run what, like mid 14's so that'll be a good race. Its all gonna depend on how good you can launch. If you botch the launch either car has enough power to walk you until the finish line. If you get a good jump you should be very close if not winning each race.

Guru

GS430 engine isn't much better then a GS400 engine. The difference is 15ft/lbs.

Interestingly enough edmunds rates teh GS430 at 6.3s to 0-60 and the GS400 5.4s to 60.

I think the GS400 will pull away from you. You maybe able to catch up in the end if its a long enough race.

Chaptorial

Since your doing a 1/4 run that may give enough time for the GS4 to catch up with the V8.

Looking forward to seeing what happens.

J.T.'s 3.2CL

You may have the GS to 95 or so but after 100 it will pull away.

slicky

you're dreaming buddy....good luck with that.

ga2000

350z auto should run low 14s ....a cls with intake and headers will run at best low 14s ,but on average mid 14s so it will be close ,,in the 1/4 but up top the z will pull

JaDia4

I'm pretty sure the gs 0-6 time is 5.9. how that translates into the 1/4, I'm not sure. But the gs may start with lead an never give it up.

flint

iTrader: (2)

I doubt you'll beat the GS unless the guy can't drive

Chaptorial

You mean literally, cuz its an auto.

blader

After 100!?!? WHAT? Are they doing highway runs or the quarter mile? None of those cars should make it to over 100 in the quarter... and barely over 95. I ran a 14.17 @ 98.5mph, 2.17 60ft. Unless they're running nitrous. My friend with 01 CLS all stock except K&N drop in and 50 shot ran 14.2 at 101.

synth19

:whocares:

J.T.'s 3.2CL

Obviously my above statement reflects what may occur in a highway run.

Chaptorial

What's your opinion on the stock Auto 350z synth?

sgmotoring

I have raced an auto NSX and I beat it by about 1 car to about 105mph. That same NSX beat a GS430 by about another car to about 100mph. I have not personally race that GS430 but they are both my good friends, so I know they won't B.S. me. At the time of the race I only have a cold air intake, port/polish intake and headers. In my opinion, the reason they lost was during the launch. NSX have no low end torque, which explain the slow launch. That GS430 have a delay in the trottle and would take .5 second to even move off the line. If it was a rolling start race, I think we all would be dead even.

darrinb

i think the 400 revs higher than the 430 so it a lil quicker, i took out a 400 when i was stock but they just have a slow throttle resonse and weigh 400 more than our cars

RUF87

Don't listen to these guys . . . you should beat a stock GS400 with your mods.

For you guys who are soooo quick to cut this guys down . . . get your facts before slamming him. We've already had posts with vids of a GS400s going down.

Matter of fact, I've posted better times without and with an icebox than the race that we have the video of the GS400 going down to a CLS 6speed.

So go kick some GS400 butt!

Ruf

RUF87

Lex 'ol buddy. I'm sure you're just talking about the 350z. :P

Ruf

RUF87

power3dfx

sorry, but i own a GS4 and after many runs, i am completely tied with a g35c with manual, and he learned to shift much better so he takes my tl(when it had just i/h/ and cpulley) i can barely beat him with TL, but the GS holds it own the WHOLE way.
unless you are running any faster than 14.4 at the track, i dont think you will win either of them. but get the launch and you will do well. otherwise, both of them have the HP advantage.

RUF87

Hate to burst your bubble, but I have beat a GS400 on the streat, and a couple of SC430s and an auto G35C with S/C at the track. Technically only the G35C had faster times than me, but he wasn't a really good driver so I took him off the line and the shifts.

And we had the vids of the SC430 to back up the results as well as vids of the GS400 going down to the CLS . . both times.

Ruf

SilverBullet_RENAMED

bs, there is no way you can beat a G35 Coupe that is supercharged even if its a auto. That car puts down over 320-330 at the wheels.

RUF87

Whatever man . . I just hope no one takes your sucker away from you either. . . :P

Ruf

RUF87

BTW - with you level of knowledge I suppose you think a 550 HP vehicle would beat a 330 HP . . . even if it is a dump truck . .

Ruf

SilverBullet_RENAMED

Okay, so what do you run at the track? What is your hp to the wheels and tq? Please post some dyno runs. Or is this rice racing?

RUF87

I ran a 14.58 on that run and the guy with the G35C ran a 14.10, but I crossed the line first because of my quicker reaction time and better launch. If his car was properly tuned he should have got in to the 13s, but he didn't. We also had a guy out there with a STi and he had trouble getting in to the 13s because he just got it and was still working on the launch.

The G35C belonged to the president of the DFW Infinity Club. It's a tight red with custom grill. He admitted that he wasn't good at the track with it and had one of his friends drive it, but he was kind of new at it as well.

So for all the haters and slammers, notice my first post said he had the faster car, but lost the race becuase of several factors.

In drag racing there is no guarantee that the faster car will win . . . other wise why race at all.

As for my dyno, I've not had one since I added the icebox and a couple of other mods in addition to light weight wheels & tires. Any guy in our group will tell you that even with light wheels & tires I was one of the quickest CLS/TLSes out there. Beating guy with headers regularly. My best time with just the wheels was a 14.65, so with the icebox and such I'm in the 14.5 range consistently.

BTW - the wheels don't add HP, but they don't rob you of HP.
Ruf

Ruf

power3dfx

Just like many other street experiences, and your experience with people who obviously cant drive... then i can believe you took the GS4. But i own both cars, and i know exactly what both cars are capable of. my tl runs 14.4 at the track, and the GS actually did better against the G. we did many runs, so i can say the GS and TL are practically equal. however, you are running a 1/10 second over me, so unless the GS driver doesnt know how to drive somehow (the GS gets its best run using plain auto mode, so all you do is floor it), there is no chance of you winning him. did he run a better time than you or did you cross first?

power3dfx

hopefully 1sicklex sees this thread, he can definately give some good insight on this.

RUF87

Trust me, I know that both the GS400 and G35C are technically quicker. But as you know, the slight variances in cars and the big variances in drivers can and is often the difference in a race between cars that are fairly close such as these.

And Lex is an ol bud of mine on these boards. We've had this discussion a long time ago when I first got my TLS. I've been waiting a long time to hook up with a GS400 just to find out first hand. It's a bit tougher on the street, but at the track I'm usually pretty tough to beat unless the other car is a lot faster. As was the case with the G35C with S/C . . I had over 1/2 sec better reaction time and after the 60' point I had something like .76 secs advantage on him and he didn't have enough track to catch me . . but I could see him coming on and would have caught me easily after the 1/4.

BTW - no disrespect here. Just get tired of the quick slams by folks who haven't had the years of experience at this like I have . . . started in 1976, so I've been hot rodding and racing for some time.

And I'd love to get a G35C myself . . . if I pull off the right trade. Love the body style and it has more mod options than the TLS

Ruf

F23A4

Just race already Sushi. If possible, videotape it.

Chaptorial

Wait ruf is saying that the G35c he raced was supercharged? I thought he meant his TL/CL was supercharged.

The Auto G's are fast to begin with and now you still beat a S/C G?

Damn that guy really must not know how to drive.

mantis23

not trying to be a co-signee here, but yes, Ruf87 won, I saw it with my own eyes. anything can happen on the strip, especially when its street night (first one to cross the line wins).

mattg

i believe what Ruf says.


shit happens, deal w/ it.