Actually the last kit sold very quickly... Titand19 - very good buyer and was patient while I removed it, packaged it and shipped it.

This kit (courtesy of experience, much better turbo and the introduction of the E-manage and extra injector), is significantly better, more reliable and makes more power...

 

What would an auto Cl-p be good for?? (best guess)

 

Also, any idea whether a CL-s SC could be retrofitted for a CL-P?

 

i think this has already been done by xxkrazixx or something. the guy in team illmatic with the sickest cl-p ever and direct port nitrous. i saw that car in real life. so nice.

 

i think he actually used the supercharger from the accord....dont quote me on it though

 

I mentioned you to him, it's your call. good luck in Vegas! lucky dawg.

 

Generally the same place, just a slightly different idea on exhaust plumbing. Don't ask, pics later. Yes, much more power, and I say this good naturely, when all is done, if anyone should surpass my WHP, I will retake the throne by "bumping boost just enough". Anyone for dyno wars?

 

hopefully i will be lucky!! maybe i'll win some money to lessen the blow on the turbo build up!
when i get back I will call and get this thing started. maybe we can have some friendly east coast/west coast turbo cl battles!!

 

7000 wow .. dont expect these things to fly.

im totally with you for making a turbo kit ...

but 7000 ... can you please explain where you are coming up with this figure.

Because from what I see I could do something similar for a lot cheaper

Bosch 440/550cc Injectors - 200
T3T4 - 500
Custom Headers/Manifold - 600
Tial Wastegate - 250
Custom piping tig welded for turbo and wastegate etc etc - 300 MAX
HKS SS - 275
Greddy Emanage - 600 (around there right?)
Autometer Boost Gauge - 50 Dollars
All lines - 50 Dollars
Hardware - 50 Dollars MAX
Custom 3" Turbo Back Exhaust - 500 Dollars from Miami Muffler

So lets add all this up

We are lookg at around 3500 dollars. Lets also add 800 dollars for miscellaneous stuff (ie. new oil and other over looked stuff).

Grand total 4300 dollars. All the prices I said were on the high end too. Y ou can typically knock off a bunch of cash if you look in the right place or know the right people/


Im not ragging on you at all, im all for a turbokit ... but for 7g ... thats just a wee bit much

 

You're prices are WAY off, and the materials you listed are FAR less quality than what is on his car.

The T3T4 turbo is too small for the amount of air the J32 flows. Also, the Garrett ball bearing turbo used in his setup was perfectly matched to the J32 by Garrett.

The exhaust manifold is based upon Comptech headers. $1200 right there before you even go into fabrication.

E-manage requires a custom harness so make that about $800 or more. Also you'll need the fuel pressure regulator, $280 from Comptech. The autometer gauge used is $200 not $50. Add in a fuel pressure gauge, trim panel w/gauge pods.... etc. etc. etc.

I'm sure for under $5000 you could throw a kit together. But do you want it to perform like allmotor's kit? If you do spend the cash, don't be cheap. If you wanna go cheap buy the Comptech S/C and get nearly the same amount of power. (about 40whp less)

EDIT: You also didn't even include pricing for an intercooler

 

Here's allmotor's price break down:

Garrett GT35R (Ball-Bearing) Turbo
- Turbine: 0.82A/R, 68mm 84 Trim wheel
- Compressor: 0.70A/R, 82mm 56 Trim wheel
- Cost: $1400
Garrett High Efficienty Intercooler Core
- 8" x 16" x 3.5"
- Cost: $800
Tial/Garrett 38mm Wastegate
- 6.82psi spring
- Cost: $250 w/ flanges etc.
Tial/Garrett Blow-off Valve
- Cost: $250 w/ flanges etc.
Greddy E-Manage Engine Management System
- Cost: $500 w/ harness etc.
Comptech FPR
- Cost: $280
Techedge Wideband O2
- Cost: $350
RC Injectors (size TBD)
- Cost: $550
Walbro Fuel Pump
- Cost: $100
Electric Boost Guage (15psi)
- Cost: $185
Electric Fuel Pressure Guage (100psi)
- Cost: $210
Oil Feed/Return system (Earls)
- Cost: $150
Fuel Hoses/Fittings (Earls)
- Cost: $100
Intake Piping (2.5")
- Cost: $300 w/ clamps, couplers etc.
Turbo Manifold & Downpipe in Stainless Steel
- Cost: $1500
Misc Items (water-cooling etc.)
- Cost: $200

TOTAL: $6825.00 (Retail)

 

To really have even more control of the boost,
add (1) boost controller, then don't forget:

ignition harness
injector harness
3bar map sensor
pressure sensor harness
e-manage support tool

then pay someone to install it and tune the goodies above

and finally... my secret purple electronic box,,,,, 750.00

no, it's not cheap and i doubt the above mentioned will be used in allmotors. but it is expensive and to really do it right, the inside of the motor should be addressed unless the turbo kit is built with low boost which would work fine on our motors and deliver a great punch. I'm of the opinion that nothing more than 400 at the wheels at most, which is a lot, or else you'd be asking for it.

I'd say allmotor has his hands full putting one together for an auto. good luck man!

 

i completely forgot about the FMIC bwahaha im stupid.

Anyways im not saying 7000 is completely absurd. Im just saying that it COULD be cheaper

Let me know how everything works out

 

???????????

 

7k is not absurd, it is the bottom end for a decent turbo kit. 8k for a very good turbo kit is pretty much very common. And you don't want to mess with crap parts when you turbo your car otherwise you could run into big problems. You have to pay to play, and you don't want to mess around with boost.

 

nope, not even close

 

Good Guess Though!

 

nope, not even close.

 

i'm of the opinion that anything over that in a cl-s is a waste, period.


unless you're building an all out stripped down drag car.


but i guess someone has to do it.

 

i have one of those purple things.

 

^ NIce stickers :closetricer:

 

Once you add the exhaust cutout, guage-pod, breaking parts and re-purchasing them... mistakes etc., it adds up!

The main difference between this kit and my previous kit were the following:

(1) Garrett GT35R vs. T3/T4 Turbo (+$800)
(2) E-Manage vs. ?? (+$600)
(3) Exhaust cut-out (+$350 including flange/piping)
(4) RC Injector/Harness/Bracket/Fittings/Hose (+$300)

Now, that's $2050 extra right there. Unless you do it yourself, you can NEVER get a manifold made for $600 in Stainless Steel. It's not a straightforward manifold.... it is VERY tight in there, so good luck!! The complete A-pipe, SS turbo mount and downpipe is easily $1500 once you already know what you are doing!

Look at the Z's kit... from Greddy, its around $7K with two cheap turbos and a LOT less power!

 

so mclarenf3387 are you planning to do it in the future? Dang I seriously wish it was cheaper but that is true though. You have to pay a lot to play lol

 

So wtf is the special purple box

 

You can buy mine used...

 

Turbos no good on the Auto cross track

Maybe its time to take the CL (with a Turbo) to Pocono

 

lol anything above 1 grand is a lot for me. Maybe if I save long enough I'll probably succeed but that's by a long shot lol

 

I am very interested in the turbo set-up for the 6MT CL-S, in fact I have already purchased a few products and am in need of some others which I am hoping you guys can help me on.
I currrently have:
Garrett GT35/40R (same specs as allmotor)
Greddy E-manage w/ Support Tool
TiAL 38mm Wastegate & BOV w/ Flanges

What I really need is:
Turbo Manifold and Downpipe w/ turbo mount
Intercooler w/ Endtanks
Intake Plumbing
Also may be interested in E-manage PnP Harness

Let me know by posting, PM or email (igitpd@yahoo.com)

 

also like to know what the purple box is

Is it a different Engine Management System

 

do you have the cybernation "purple box"

 

OK, jokes over, there is no purple box, bad joke. my sense of humor is lame, hope i'm not bannished.

 

wtf is the cybernation purple box?

 

Strike One!



hehe

 

haha........

 

hehe, sorry

what is the cybernation purple box?

 

r u able to help me out with the parts i needed and i have another question
What would be the outcome of using OBX headers

 

There is no such thing as the Cybernation purple box

 

I listed everything you'll need at the top of page 3.

Using OBX vs. Comptech headers is like buying a $15,000 suit and wearing a $9.79 tie. You have a sweet turbo there, the GT series is capable of amazing power and obviously is well suited for this application. Don't cut corners on something as important as your exhaust manifold.

 

oh i thought the elf was purple ?

 

Sort of, it is the superfantasticilicous box from PBSKIDS!!! It is owned and controlled by a prehistoric biped which can belt out a tuned at any time.