what is hp & torque on 3.5 stock
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what is hp & torque on 3.5 stock
I am thinking about going to the 3.5 need to no hp & tork stock.
I started at 191 hp and 185 torque.
I started at 191 hp and 185 torque.
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this is the dyno supplied to me for mine ,but it's not my car, just same setup
http://public.fotki.com/typeR/typer/3_5_jpg.html
http://public.fotki.com/typeR/typer/3_5_jpg.html
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They both have their pros and cons.
You could probably keep your warranty easier with the supercharger. Some dealers may be okay with it since its comptech, but you could also take it off before you go.
With the 3.5L upgrade the dealer may not notice since the only differents in apearance would be the code on the block. If they do figure it out your probably screwed though.
Performance wise it think the 3.5L is faster. Im not sure what automatic supercharged TL/CL are running i thought low 14s. I believe TypeR is in the 13's.
Disadvantage for the 3.5L is, atleast with what dean was selling you need 93 octane. Here in WA they only sell 92. In cali usually 91.
Big plus for the 3.5L upgrade is you can change your badging to 3.5CL Type S
3.5L with the 10.2:1 compression version and supercharger is the way to go though.
You could probably keep your warranty easier with the supercharger. Some dealers may be okay with it since its comptech, but you could also take it off before you go.
With the 3.5L upgrade the dealer may not notice since the only differents in apearance would be the code on the block. If they do figure it out your probably screwed though.
Performance wise it think the 3.5L is faster. Im not sure what automatic supercharged TL/CL are running i thought low 14s. I believe TypeR is in the 13's.
Disadvantage for the 3.5L is, atleast with what dean was selling you need 93 octane. Here in WA they only sell 92. In cali usually 91.
Big plus for the 3.5L upgrade is you can change your badging to 3.5CL Type S
3.5L with the 10.2:1 compression version and supercharger is the way to go though.
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Re: what is hp & torque on 3.5 stock
Originally posted by johntypes
I am thinking about going to the 3.5 need to no hp & tork stock.
I started at 191 hp and 185 torque.
I am thinking about going to the 3.5 need to no hp & tork stock.
I started at 191 hp and 185 torque.
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Originally posted by Guru
Performance wise it think the 3.5L is faster. Im not sure what automatic supercharged TL/CL are running i thought low 14s. I believe TypeR is in the 13's.
Performance wise it think the 3.5L is faster. Im not sure what automatic supercharged TL/CL are running i thought low 14s. I believe TypeR is in the 13's.
typeR's excellent times are a culmination of great work by him in getting the launch down, preparation of his vehicle and a good day. The only blown times I have recently seen are ModAddict's of a 13.8 @ 104 which is 2 - 3 MPH higher than typeR's best trap. This was done with no prep and cargo in the vehicle.
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Re: Re: what is hp & torque on 3.5 stock
Originally posted by 03TL_PlaTinUM
hey john, I'm intrested in one more run at great lakes. I've been trying to get a hold of tool, but no luck. please give me a call, as I have forgotten your number, or PM me your number. my accord is really feeling preppy these days, and I really feel I can lay down some very good times, and show up mike, and andy!
hey john, I'm intrested in one more run at great lakes. I've been trying to get a hold of tool, but no luck. please give me a call, as I have forgotten your number, or PM me your number. my accord is really feeling preppy these days, and I really feel I can lay down some very good times, and show up mike, and andy!
All the tracks are closed during the week now so our ONLY option is Sat or Sun, lets keep an eye on the weather and decide which day to go closer to the weekend.
Your car is felling "preppy" ????
Later - Andy
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Re: Re: Re: what is hp & torque on 3.5 stock
Originally posted by tool462
Show me up ? I ran 13.9's all day yesterday at Byron, you are gonna need a 100 shot of juice to show me up BUDDY !!! You still have this crazy notion that you can beat me in cold temps? You forget that ALL cars benefit from the cold temps, NOT just your car !!!
All the tracks are closed during the week now so our ONLY option is Sat or Sun, lets keep an eye on the weather and decide which day to go closer to the weekend.
Your car is felling "preppy" ????
Later - Andy
Show me up ? I ran 13.9's all day yesterday at Byron, you are gonna need a 100 shot of juice to show me up BUDDY !!! You still have this crazy notion that you can beat me in cold temps? You forget that ALL cars benefit from the cold temps, NOT just your car !!!
All the tracks are closed during the week now so our ONLY option is Sat or Sun, lets keep an eye on the weather and decide which day to go closer to the weekend.
Your car is felling "preppy" ????
Later - Andy
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Re: Re: Re: what is hp & torque on 3.5 stock
Originally posted by tool462
Show me up ? I ran 13.9's all day yesterday at Byron, you are gonna need a 100 shot of juice to show me up BUDDY !!! You still have this crazy notion that you can beat me in cold temps? You forget that ALL cars benefit from the cold temps, NOT just your car !!!
All the tracks are closed during the week now so our ONLY option is Sat or Sun, lets keep an eye on the weather and decide which day to go closer to the weekend.
Your car is felling "preppy" ????
Later - Andy
Show me up ? I ran 13.9's all day yesterday at Byron, you are gonna need a 100 shot of juice to show me up BUDDY !!! You still have this crazy notion that you can beat me in cold temps? You forget that ALL cars benefit from the cold temps, NOT just your car !!!
All the tracks are closed during the week now so our ONLY option is Sat or Sun, lets keep an eye on the weather and decide which day to go closer to the weekend.
Your car is felling "preppy" ????
Later - Andy
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Re: Re: Re: what is hp & torque on 3.5 stock
Originally posted by tool462
Your car is felling "preppy" ????
Later - Andy
Your car is felling "preppy" ????
Later - Andy
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Re: Re: Re: Re: what is hp & torque on 3.5 stock
Originally posted by 03TL_PlaTinUM
, all day long that day, and my car CAN and WILL do it again. and just in case your wondering, a basically stock accord with just CAI running that fast is insane! I've never heard of a CLS with CAI trapping at 97mph, in any weather. and they are surpposed to be "so much faster than us"
, all day long that day, and my car CAN and WILL do it again. and just in case your wondering, a basically stock accord with just CAI running that fast is insane! I've never heard of a CLS with CAI trapping at 97mph, in any weather. and they are surpposed to be "so much faster than us"
Don’t feel too happy as you do live in one of the fastest areas of the country.
As a side note and something I never understood; I found it extremely ironic that someone who drives an Accord had torque in his user name. Please tell me this was meant as a joke??
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: what is hp & torque on 3.5 stock
Originally posted by scalbert
Why must you always come across as an imbecile?? There are no guarantees and to state one is ignorant. If you do run good times and are happy with them; that is great and I like to see another Honda J-Series motor doing well. But you seem to have another agenda with your statements. And yes, there have been basically stock CL-S trap at 97 MPH; go back in time and read.
Don’t feel too happy as you do live in one of the fastest areas of the country.
As a side note and something I never understood; I found it extremely ironic that someone who drives an Accord had torque in his user name. Please tell me this was meant as a joke??
Why must you always come across as an imbecile?? There are no guarantees and to state one is ignorant. If you do run good times and are happy with them; that is great and I like to see another Honda J-Series motor doing well. But you seem to have another agenda with your statements. And yes, there have been basically stock CL-S trap at 97 MPH; go back in time and read.
Don’t feel too happy as you do live in one of the fastest areas of the country.
As a side note and something I never understood; I found it extremely ironic that someone who drives an Accord had torque in his user name. Please tell me this was meant as a joke??
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: what is hp & torque on 3.5 stock
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Why must you always come across as an imbecile??
Why must you always come across as an imbecile??
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: what is hp & torque on 3.5 stock
Originally posted by 03TL_PlaTinUM
I don't know about your "agenda", but as for me, I'm just looking for some respect.
I don't know about your "agenda", but as for me, I'm just looking for some respect.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: what is hp & torque on 3.5 stock
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i predict you will be looking for a long time.
i predict you will be looking for a long time.
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Originally posted by johntypes
besides TYPE R is there any one else with the 3.5?
besides TYPE R is there any one else with the 3.5?
austin519, , from aw has one in his tl-s. but we haven't heard anything about dyno's or how it's running or anything. i'm sure Dean would let us know if there was any news.
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not on this forum, yet.
austin519, , from aw has one in his tl-s. but we haven't heard anything about dyno's or how it's running or anything. i'm sure Dean would let us know if there was any news.
not on this forum, yet.
austin519, , from aw has one in his tl-s. but we haven't heard anything about dyno's or how it's running or anything. i'm sure Dean would let us know if there was any news.
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was that the race w/ civic4982?
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yeah... that was austin's race with me but he was stocking some heavy duty sound equipment not to mention running on stock tires and a lower compression set of pistons that were forged and prepped for boost/juice... he doen't race that much so he's not that great at his launch yet either.
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do you know what has happened with his car since then?
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mattg: yeah... he's been finishing up his thesis for his computer engineering degree. the project is a 7" touch screen replacing his stock headunit that runs climate control, navigation, wifi internet, music, and soon to be engine management. the computer/system/screen are all in right now and it's in it's final stages for all the other settings. the supercharger comes in this week and we're installing it either this w/end or sometime between my crazy 3 exams next week. afterwards we're going to drive up to Nitrous Express to see if they'll throw a bit of sponsorship his way (and see if I can reap some rewards just for being there) so that he can be running direct port. UR has had some custom settings for his supercharger pulley to hopefully push 12PSI.
That's all I know from what he's told me. I dunno if I said everything correctly but that's to the best of my knowledge.
That's all I know from what he's told me. I dunno if I said everything correctly but that's to the best of my knowledge.
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Originally posted by civic4982
UR has had some custom settings for his supercharger pulley to hopefully push 12PSI.
UR has had some custom settings for his supercharger pulley to hopefully push 12PSI.
To make 12PSI on a 3.5L would require turning the Magnuson/Eaton MP62 blower 3.1 times the engine speed. At 7k revs the blower would be turning 21,700 RPM which is nearly 50% higher than the designed limit.
In addition, the temperature increases will be on the order of about 280 F which on a hot summer day could lead to discharge temps of about 400+ F. This will kill performance and potentially the motor. I state this as I see no mention of an intercooler nor is one available (yet, it is almost done )
Lastly, he may be duplicating efforts as we already have pulleys being available in a variety of sizes.
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intercooler is in the works as well... my mistake... please don't make any inferences on his work just by my comments. I'm not fully knowledgable on what his plans are quite yet. But if you do'nt mind scalbert, when we're working on something new there we'll look to you for some advice.
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Sounds good...
BTW, is he aware that an intercooler is almost completed?? I'm picking up the main plenum today and will test fit it on a CL and TL within the next week or so.
BTW, is he aware that an intercooler is almost completed?? I'm picking up the main plenum today and will test fit it on a CL and TL within the next week or so.
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Here ya go:
http://www.acura-cl.com/forums/showt...hreadid=111103
Is he considering going with a FMIC, as in air/air?? If so, that is also not a good idea to do with a roots style blower.
http://www.acura-cl.com/forums/showt...hreadid=111103
Is he considering going with a FMIC, as in air/air?? If so, that is also not a good idea to do with a roots style blower.