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10-10-2002, 08:41 AM
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I read an article yesterday that the AVERAGE dockworker out there can make 80,000 to 100,000 a year with minimal overtime and the Forman earn 150,000 to 175,000.
What the HELL were they crying about ???
SHIT, I think I should go back to school and learn how to run a CRANE.
Shawn S
What the HELL were they crying about ???
SHIT, I think I should go back to school and learn how to run a CRANE.
Shawn S
10-10-2002, 09:02 AM
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Originally posted by Shawn S
I read an article yesterday that the AVERAGE dockworker out there can make 80,000 to 100,000 a year with minimal overtime and the Forman earn 150,000 to 175,000.
What the HELL were they crying about ???
SHIT, I think I should go back to school and learn how to run a CRANE.
Shawn S
I read an article yesterday that the AVERAGE dockworker out there can make 80,000 to 100,000 a year with minimal overtime and the Forman earn 150,000 to 175,000.
What the HELL were they crying about ???
SHIT, I think I should go back to school and learn how to run a CRANE.
Shawn S
Ok shawn do your research before spouting off high numbers like that. The reality there are large number of laborers who are seasonal and only make 30-40k a year. In california that is NOTHING....... You quit your whinning.
BTW, the workers didn't STRIKE. The company locked them out. PREVENTED THEM FROM WORKING!! Workers aren't crying about anything........
10-10-2002, 10:17 AM
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Originally posted by Zapata
Ok shawn do your research before spouting off high numbers like that.
BTW, the workers didn't STRIKE. The company locked them out. PREVENTED THEM FROM WORKING!! Workers aren't crying about anything........
Ok shawn do your research before spouting off high numbers like that.
BTW, the workers didn't STRIKE. The company locked them out. PREVENTED THEM FROM WORKING!! Workers aren't crying about anything........
The numbers were printed in yesterday’s newspaper.
I couldn’t find the article online, but I’ll scan it for you tonight if you want.
As for the “lockout”:
I understand that was initiated AFTER the workers began an organized “work slow down”.
Basically they weren’t doing their jobs or they were doing them intentionally S-L-O-W.
The dockworkers claim the “slowdown” was for safety reasons and had nothing to do with the contract talks.
Who do you want to believe?
Depends on which side of the story you think is true.
Shawn S
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10-10-2002, 10:43 AM
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Originally posted by Zapata
BTW, the workers didn't STRIKE. The company locked them out. PREVENTED THEM FROM WORKING!! Workers aren't crying about anything........
BTW, the workers didn't STRIKE. The company locked them out. PREVENTED THEM FROM WORKING!! Workers aren't crying about anything........
The company locked them out cause instead of them striking they went on working at a slow pace. Doing about 3% of the work they average in a day. The company was smart to give them the lock out.
10-10-2002, 02:47 PM
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I heard one of the reasons the dock workers did not work was because management wanted to bring in new technology, like scanners, and union felt the technology would put some workers out of their jobs.
Some low level jobs are lost with technology, but everybody else's life improves and productivy increases.
Some low level jobs are lost with technology, but everybody else's life improves and productivy increases.
10-10-2002, 03:04 PM
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Originally posted by BigPimp
I heard one of the reasons the dock workers did not work was because management wanted to bring in new technology, like scanners, and union felt the technology would put some workers out of their jobs.
I heard one of the reasons the dock workers did not work was because management wanted to bring in new technology, like scanners, and union felt the technology would put some workers out of their jobs.
One of the reports I saw on Dateline or one of those programs showed one case of sabotage.
After unloading the shipping containers, someone went around with a can of black spray paint and painted over the BAR CODES so they couldn’t be read with the scanner.
Probably some 30-year guy that walks around with a clipboard all day writing down numbers for 35-bucks an hour didn’t want his job eliminated.
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10-10-2002, 03:08 PM
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Originally posted by BigPimp
I heard one of the reasons the dock workers did not work was because management wanted to bring in new technology, like scanners, and union felt the technology would put some workers out of their jobs.
Some low level jobs are lost with technology, but everybody else's life improves and productivy increases.
I heard one of the reasons the dock workers did not work was because management wanted to bring in new technology, like scanners, and union felt the technology would put some workers out of their jobs.
Some low level jobs are lost with technology, but everybody else's life improves and productivy increases.
This is where you are wrong. The loss of jobs due to technology only make the profits of the company go up......nothing wrong with that but the otherside of the picture is people are put out of work and go on welfare etc., I"ll forward you a paper i wrote on the topic in one of my economics classess.......
The solutions/answers etc., aren't easy. It sucks for everybody.
10-10-2002, 03:29 PM
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Originally posted by Shawn S
Probably some 30-year guy that walks around with a clipboard all day writing down numbers for 35-bucks an hour didn’t want his job eliminated.
Shawn S
Probably some 30-year guy that walks around with a clipboard all day writing down numbers for 35-bucks an hour didn’t want his job eliminated.
Shawn S
10-10-2002, 04:18 PM
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Well..
So instead of putting a guy who makes 35$ an hour writing crap on a clipboard out of a job, your going to put;
-the people that design the scanners
-people that build the pcboards for the scanners
-people that build the wiring for the scanners
-people that put the scanners together
-yada, yada, yada
out of a job???
Damnit go back to school and learn a real occupation
(oops I am so going to get flamed about this
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-the people that design the scanners
-people that build the pcboards for the scanners
-people that build the wiring for the scanners
-people that put the scanners together
-yada, yada, yada
out of a job???
Damnit go back to school and learn a real occupation
(oops I am so going to get flamed about this
)
10-10-2002, 11:14 PM
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Well I am working in a freight forwarder. I hate the fucking union. I have over 150 containers stuck at the terminals or rail ramp.
The union demand for 75%
raise in 5 years! They are making minimum $27.65/ hr already.
Even PMA (shipping lines) offer them no deductible, no limit premium health insurance, the union still fuck them off.
The union demand for 75%
raise in 5 years! They are making minimum $27.65/ hr already. Even PMA (shipping lines) offer them no deductible, no limit premium health insurance, the union still fuck them off.
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