how many tl-s/ cl-s ecu's they would need to flash to make it worth their while.

i think there would be a lot of interested folks between us, a-tl and a-world.


let's do eet!

 

the V6 accords and first gens would also love to jump on this. I know it would definately worth their while.

 

i emailed them sales@hondata.com

 

im interested..how much would somethin like this cost..i read about this on other forums..seems pretty good..well fill us in on the info

 

Isn't it like 60 bucks or something for the RSX? I'd definitely be down!

 

more like $600, i think.

 

here www.hondata.com

 

Do you guys think there is really much room for improvement? As far as i know hondata doesn't do anything that couldn't also be adjusted with an v-afc, air/fuel, vtech points, ignition timing. I know people who have used afcs hadn't had much success. I believe one of the other tricks is making the i-vtec setup more aggresive which is a moot point.

 

Oops...Damn 600? Thats kinda high for only about 10-15hp. It wouldn't hurt to have more mods available though.

 

it wouldnt be high at all for a 10-15 but more likely a 20-25+hp gain top to bottom...however our ECU' sare NOT flashable...im hoping the new TL's are then youre talking 800 for the ECU and 500+ for the flash...still worth it IMO

 

fuck the 10-15 hp.

i want the 15 ft. lbs.

i'd rather have that than a body kit.

 

you know this for a fact? or you've just heard it here?

 

fact
thats the reason why ECU's are replaced with new transmissions and not flashed

 

i think AEM makes a computer for us.

 

would this make it so are cars would be quick right away and not getting quicker after a few WOT passes

 

true, but it's like $1200. then you would have to spend hundreds more on dyno tuning.

there are no pre made fuel maps, timing curves etc. for our cars.

 

When I ordered my 03 Accord V6 I sent an email to Hondata. The response I recieved was that they were not currently working or even planning on working on anything J-series related.

I am not sure about the J32's but the J30a4 in my car is now running a MAF sensor instead of the traditional honda Speed Density setup, the ecu's are also much different than the K-series engines.

I was a little angry, but then again our J-series motors are reletively strong to begin with.

Dustin

 

I have:

(1) given Hondata ALL relevant infomation including photographs, chip ID's etc.
(2) volunteered my car to them
(3) Waiting for 5 months already

 

hondata wont do it.we have to wait for comptech or someone else to release a piggy back system.

 

The 15ft lbs of torque would really be nice.

and $600 is not cheap, but what is on our cars?

Ruf

 

if we really would get 15lbs from this.. then forget about the 3.5 conversion.. =)

 

reply from hondata -


The problem is that the ecu is not reflashable on these cars. Perhaps we will find something in the future to do to these ecus, but not anything at this time.

Hondata Inc
2341 W. 205th St. Suite 106
Torrance, CA 90501
310.782.8278
310.782.6383 FAX
http://www.hondata.com

 

my re-reply -

How about the heat shield gaskets? If there was enough interest, would you consider producing those?

 

their reply -

These will not work very well on a v6, as the intake manifold will be slightly displaced by the thickness of the gasket. We have no plans to produce these gaskets.

Hondata Inc
2341 W. 205th St. Suite 106
Torrance, CA 90501
310.782.8278
310.782.6383 FAX
http://www.hondata.com

 

CL's do not use reprogrammable ecu's .This technology started on the new RSX .AEM's programmable ecu may be the way to go for those inclined to try this out but you will have to contact them to see if there is a version for the CL .I have seen these ECU's and from what I saw they are not meant for the CL .They seem to be about 1000 dollars in cost and a laptop PC is helpful for tuning purposes .Jens

 

Matt do your centerlines rub at all on your ride? Thinking about picking up a set for my tsx. Sorry for the OT.


I'll bring it back on topic by askign what kind of gains you guys get with a tuned v-afc? If i remember it isn't much....

 

it barely rubs every once in a while. usually just the front when angling in a driveway with the wheels turned while hitting a bump.

it has never even rubbed hard enough to scuff the tires, and thats w/ ~ 3" drop.

about the v-afc. there are a few people who have them, the gains seem minimal. johntypes has it along w/ all the mods i have plus more. and i've still run a 1/10th faster in the quarter.


I WANT A SOLID 13 SEC. ALL MOTOR CL-S, DAMMIT :swear2:

 

Let's say that the new CL/TL TypeS comes with a programable ECU. What are the chances that it would be backward compatible with our cars?

Ruf

 

ill let you know

 

ooow, now you've got me in suspense.

Ruf

 

what about the bigger TB from kingmotorsport? without FI, do you guys think that it will be worth the investment? I'm thinking about doing it...

 

The CL-S ECU is not 'flash'-able, but it is still reprogrammable using a different technique... therefore its not setup to work the way Hondata is equipped for the RSX ECU.

The AEM ECU is generic... they probably don't have the adaptor-kit wired for the CL-S, but you can do that manually (wiring-harness adapter is available). However, extensive tuning on the dyno is needed. Unless your car is a race-car... its not worth it for the 5-10 extra hp. For a built F/I car... its worth it, I suppose!