Are We Going To Get Behind This Unichip?
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these guys need to drop the price a bit, ask for 40 people, and i think this shit will happen. anyways, for now:
i think i will be the first one to say it: IM IN
but if they cant give us the chip with pnp for less than 600, i don't think this GB will get anywhere, as the emanage WILL produce gains and this will turn into the AEM vs. Icebox war, except with much more difference in price and little difference in hp/tq
i think i will be the first one to say it: IM IN
but if they cant give us the chip with pnp for less than 600, i don't think this GB will get anywhere, as the emanage WILL produce gains and this will turn into the AEM vs. Icebox war, except with much more difference in price and little difference in hp/tq
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Originally posted by CLS2001_97124
So sonor, who did you talk to? Jack or Tony? I'm guessing that you will take over the GB for this unit.
which is great! I was going to start one if you didn't once scalbert publishes the e-manage number. But hey, nothing wrong with starting it early. ![Smile](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
Damn.. only if Kalin still lived up here, he would have been perfect. Six speed with H/I.
Like mattg said.. I will also attempt to track down someone with a 6 speed for the tuning.
So sonor, who did you talk to? Jack or Tony? I'm guessing that you will take over the GB for this unit.
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Damn.. only if Kalin still lived up here, he would have been perfect. Six speed with H/I.
Like mattg said.. I will also attempt to track down someone with a 6 speed for the tuning.
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Originally posted by Ant7701
Also find out if they'll warranty it if an Acura Certified Tech installs it instead of them. If not where is a Uni-chip distributor in Long Island and would that cost even more cash for installation?????
Also find out if they'll warranty it if an Acura Certified Tech installs it instead of them. If not where is a Uni-chip distributor in Long Island and would that cost even more cash for installation?????
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Haven't had a chance to view what's been going on since work, but I want to thank Scalbert for pointing out the differences in the connections for the auto and 6 speed regarding chip plug in.
I thought John was who I spoke with but I guess it could have been Jack.
He simply stated that if we could get 20 people to commit, they would make the chip for plug and play in either car, auto or 6 speed and with a 2 year guarantee. It could be installed or uninstalled in minutes by anyone of us. It's been tuned for the auto and they are offering one for the six speed if we can get someone over there. They didn't discuss the economics of buying the parts, I assumed that. Since they offered it for both based on 20 cars, that may not be an issue.
They just won't waste the time to source the parts if they don't have at least 20 people interested.
For the other cars they do, 20 is no problem.
I'll lead the group buy if you guys want, we'll see who will commit, so let me know if you really want this. The price will be roughly $600 for the group buy and $800 on an individual basis with no plug and play.
The Emanage looks promising too, so you decide. Hopefully Scalbert will get an auto mapped with the Greddy so we can compare.
I thought John was who I spoke with but I guess it could have been Jack.
He simply stated that if we could get 20 people to commit, they would make the chip for plug and play in either car, auto or 6 speed and with a 2 year guarantee. It could be installed or uninstalled in minutes by anyone of us. It's been tuned for the auto and they are offering one for the six speed if we can get someone over there. They didn't discuss the economics of buying the parts, I assumed that. Since they offered it for both based on 20 cars, that may not be an issue.
They just won't waste the time to source the parts if they don't have at least 20 people interested.
For the other cars they do, 20 is no problem.
I'll lead the group buy if you guys want, we'll see who will commit, so let me know if you really want this. The price will be roughly $600 for the group buy and $800 on an individual basis with no plug and play.
The Emanage looks promising too, so you decide. Hopefully Scalbert will get an auto mapped with the Greddy so we can compare.
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Originally posted by mattg
i may be able to find a 6mt up here. i'll call my acura tech and see if he knows someone.
i may be able to find a 6mt up here. i'll call my acura tech and see if he knows someone.
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Originally posted by Red Rider
What do you think about doing it for the SCd 5AT Matt ?
What do you think about doing it for the SCd 5AT Matt ?
Just FYI, the e-Manage has been in my car for over two months now without a problem. The original concept was that the Unichip would be for the NA cars and the e-Manage would be for the boosted cars. This was based on the abilities and shortcomings of both system and which could best satisfy the requirements. This may still be the case but it is unknow but will soon be tested. But, without a doubt, the e-Manage is still a prefered product for boost application as it does pull timing and can directly extend the injector pulse width. However, on NA vehicles the jury is still out.
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Originally posted by scalbert
IMO, I would not look at that. They claimed to be able to do the SC'd cars but after I spoke with the tech there he said, after I filled him in on our specifics and the limitation in the ECU reading boost (hence the need for the ESM in the Comptech kit), that they would need to add additional injectors.
Just FYI, the e-Manage has been in my car for over two months now without a problem. The original concept was that the Unichip would be for the NA cars and the e-Manage would be for the boosted cars. This was based on the abilities and shortcomings of both system and which could best satisfy the requirements. This may still be the case but it is unknow but will soon be tested. But, without a doubt, the e-Manage is still a prefered product for boost application as it does pull timing and can directly extend the injector pulse width. However, on NA vehicles the jury is still out.
IMO, I would not look at that. They claimed to be able to do the SC'd cars but after I spoke with the tech there he said, after I filled him in on our specifics and the limitation in the ECU reading boost (hence the need for the ESM in the Comptech kit), that they would need to add additional injectors.
Just FYI, the e-Manage has been in my car for over two months now without a problem. The original concept was that the Unichip would be for the NA cars and the e-Manage would be for the boosted cars. This was based on the abilities and shortcomings of both system and which could best satisfy the requirements. This may still be the case but it is unknow but will soon be tested. But, without a doubt, the e-Manage is still a prefered product for boost application as it does pull timing and can directly extend the injector pulse width. However, on NA vehicles the jury is still out.
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very intrested but still want a final price, pics, real dyno graph, ya know the actual FACTS. And I want to wait to see the e-manage N/A dyno. But like I said am very intrested!!!
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heres my take on unichip
some of us av6'ers have it on our av6....however thats only for the 98-99 accord v6 owners since these cars didnt have a direct injection system like the cl and the 00-02 accords
those that have it on their 98--99 accords have seen rather good gains....where as most people w/ i/h/e dyno arnd the 170whp range w/their av6, people w/these bolt ons plus a unichip and proper tuning have seen whp as high as 200whp!....the mod is most def. worth it if done right and for the v6, it comes 2 abt $1k for all the mods and proper unichip tuning...
some of us av6'ers have it on our av6....however thats only for the 98-99 accord v6 owners since these cars didnt have a direct injection system like the cl and the 00-02 accords
those that have it on their 98--99 accords have seen rather good gains....where as most people w/ i/h/e dyno arnd the 170whp range w/their av6, people w/these bolt ons plus a unichip and proper tuning have seen whp as high as 200whp!....the mod is most def. worth it if done right and for the v6, it comes 2 abt $1k for all the mods and proper unichip tuning...
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OK...so if the AV6 guys are getting approx 30 at the wheels from this uni-chip, do u guys think that our map needs to be looked over some more and see if anything was done wrong or skipped. Maybe we can get some more power out of it...
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Originally posted by unsure
the 98-99 accord v6 owners since these cars didnt have a direct injection system like the cl and the 00-02 accords
the 98-99 accord v6 owners since these cars didnt have a direct injection system like the cl and the 00-02 accords
They all had sequential fuel injection.
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Originally posted by Ant7701
OK...so if the AV6 guys are getting approx 30 at the wheels from this uni-chip, do u guys think that our map needs to be looked over some more and see if anything was done wrong or skipped. Maybe we can get some more power out of it...
OK...so if the AV6 guys are getting approx 30 at the wheels from this uni-chip, do u guys think that our map needs to be looked over some more and see if anything was done wrong or skipped. Maybe we can get some more power out of it...
That is not the case with the CL-S. Although there is some room to advance the timing, it is already pretty good.
BTW, this is just speculation based on what I have been made aware of.
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Originally posted by scalbert
I beleive you meant direct ignition or rather distributorless ignition system, coil-on-plug, etc.
They all had sequential fuel injection.
I beleive you meant direct ignition or rather distributorless ignition system, coil-on-plug, etc.
They all had sequential fuel injection.
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yes sir direct ignition
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Originally posted by scalbert
Although I was not aware of the Unichip on the AV6, I thought it was never completed. The potential reason for gains like this is the conservative timing run due to not having a knock control system on those years AV6's. By running 93 octane and advancing the timing, noticeable gains could be had on a subdued system.
That is not the case with the CL-S. Although there is some room to advance the timing, it is already pretty good.
BTW, this is just speculation based on what I have been made aware of.
Although I was not aware of the Unichip on the AV6, I thought it was never completed. The potential reason for gains like this is the conservative timing run due to not having a knock control system on those years AV6's. By running 93 octane and advancing the timing, noticeable gains could be had on a subdued system.
That is not the case with the CL-S. Although there is some room to advance the timing, it is already pretty good.
BTW, this is just speculation based on what I have been made aware of.
...granted the cl will not see as drastic gains, but if they can get an additional 10whp across the board on an auto cl-s/tl-s, i think the mod will be worth it
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Re: Are We Going To Get Behind This Unichip?
Originally posted by sonor kid
He will guarantee a plug and play product for two years and will guarantee we will see the gains promised, 10-15 hp.
He said the price will be roughly $600 to $700.00 for the group buy.
He will guarantee a plug and play product for two years and will guarantee we will see the gains promised, 10-15 hp.
He said the price will be roughly $600 to $700.00 for the group buy.
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Originally posted by bigman
would the unichip work on a 99 TL.
would the unichip work on a 99 TL.
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Originally posted by mc222
Just to put my
and to further help guage interest - Id purchase if it was PnP....
Just to put my
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They aren't going to make it plug n play just because we say we'll buy it.
I really think $600.00 will get it done.
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I think anyone who's willing to pay 600 for this, will pay 700. But the problem is most people are waiting to see which of the two solutions is going to yield better gains...
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Originally posted by derelict
I think anyone who's willing to pay 600 for this, will pay 700. But the problem is most people are waiting to see which of the two solutions is going to yield better gains...
I think anyone who's willing to pay 600 for this, will pay 700. But the problem is most people are waiting to see which of the two solutions is going to yield better gains...
see, these guys could of had more sales of these had they brought it up about a year ago.
the cl/tl have changed and discontinued, and the longer people have a car, the less willing they will be to spend money on it.
not to bring in another argument, but cars are getting faster from the factory, and that makes even more options available to people. thats why i am hesitant to spend more on mine, especially since it took so much just to barely stay ahead of a factory g35 coupe.
im still in though, because there is a chance i will be retuning the chip in the future so at least i can enjoy the extra push for now.
Still though, 2 problems remain:
1. We need to organize a GB, and most importantly set the PRICE with PnP.
2. We should get this GB opened up soon and have it open until the emanage has proven itself. Those who will purchase this unichip will jump on it if there is enough gain to justify the extra price.
I am just throwing out my opinion, but being around for a while ive seen how people respond to GB's and i think if we dont do the above two, this wont get anywhere.
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see if I hadn't just spent like 3-4G's on icebox, headers, sways, brakelines, springs, shocks, exhaust, wheels, and tires I might be in it for this mod .. but another 600 just doesn't fly. why does it have to be so expensive?? I don't get it .. back when I had an Explorer, a custom diablo chip was like 190$ shipped! lol
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Originally posted by blader
see if I hadn't just spent like 3-4G's on icebox, headers, sways, brakelines, springs, shocks, exhaust, wheels, and tires I might be in it for this mod .. but another 600 just doesn't fly. why does it have to be so expensive?? I don't get it .. back when I had an Explorer, a custom diablo chip was like 190$ shipped! lol
see if I hadn't just spent like 3-4G's on icebox, headers, sways, brakelines, springs, shocks, exhaust, wheels, and tires I might be in it for this mod .. but another 600 just doesn't fly. why does it have to be so expensive?? I don't get it .. back when I had an Explorer, a custom diablo chip was like 190$ shipped! lol
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Originally posted by blader
I don't get it .. back when I had an Explorer, a custom diablo chip was like 190$ shipped! lol
I don't get it .. back when I had an Explorer, a custom diablo chip was like 190$ shipped! lol
It is a stand alone computer which works in conjunction with the factory computer. Not to mention that there is a lmuch more limited market compared to the Explorer
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