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Old 04-26-2001, 01:22 AM
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vtec.net: manual tranny for 2002 cl...

Hey:

Check this out from vtec.net - apparently from the mouth of American Honda's Executive VP, Tom Elliot:

http://www.vtec.net/news/items/668.html


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OMG OMG OMG:

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Manual Tranny in the CL for 2002
Submitted by TOV News on April 25, 2001 at 20:55:37:
In the April 23, 2001 Automotive News, American Honda's Executive VP, Tom Elliot makes reference to a manual transmission appearing in the CL for 2002. Below is a clip that was submitted anonymously to us.

In response to Automotive News' Question of: "You still refuse to confirm the rumours of a V-8 engine coming for Acura."

Elliott's response was:
"It's still out there, and it's not close enough to talk about. Acura still has
to focus on our volume sellers like the TL and RSX, and some new things for 2002
like a manual transmission for the CL."
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I say we have some 330 manuals for brunch

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Awww %$#@*&^. 2002? WTF? Can't believe they will do it so soon! Let see if this will come to fruition

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Old 04-26-2001, 01:31 AM
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Shawn S....

so how much are you selling the CL for??
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Crippen:
That would piss the fuck outta me
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Get on AIM you hoe.
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dudes.... sell ur cars(or have your friend lose the car in some lake or canal) and save ur pesos!!! geez, %#$@!!
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I'd like to know what the other "goodies" will be.......Well then, I just sell my Accord Coupe EX V6 and buy another CLS with manual and park the one I have now ! Yeeeeeeee hawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

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FUCKYOU ACURA!
FUCKYYOU
FUCKYOU


WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS?
IT BETTER BE A FUCKIN BULLSHIT RUMOUR!
AHHHH,
first that handle in the trunk thing, that i dont have!
then the new cupholders that i dont have!
then i find out acura sent everyone a COOL PEN, but not me!
then they bring out the Aegean Blue!
NOW THIS?????!!!!

FUCK YOU ACURA!
I AM NOT BUYING AN ACURA AGAIN IF THEY DO.
Fuck it, I am gonna stick the BMW's, and Mercedes after this shit.

If they waited a few years, i would understand, but I mean HOW DO YOU OFFER SUCH A DRAMATIC CHANGE AFTER A YEAR?

Do you guys realize that there will be people with a possible 6-speed posting here??????????????????????? and we will be the "auto guys"!!!

Now i know how the 99'TL people felt after the 2000 had the 5speed auto..ALSO, i now know how they felt again after they didnt wait till 2002..and i also know how the CL owners that wanted a TL, but also 260hp felt like when the TL-S came out...

You guys noticed acura BUMFUCKS its buyers????

FUCKYOU ACURA!

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by amirsafdari:
FUCKYOU ACURA!
FUCKYYOU
FUCKYOU


WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS?
IT BETTER BE A FUCKIN BULLSHIT RUMOUR!
AHHHH,
first that handle in the trunk thing, that i dont have!
then the new cupholders that i dont have!
then i find out acura sent everyone a COOL PEN, but not me!
then they bring out the Aegean Blue!
NOW THIS?????!!!!

FUCK YOU ACURA!
I AM NOT BUYING AN ACURA AGAIN IF THEY DO.
Fuck it, I am gonna stick the BMW's, and Mercedes after this shit.

If they waited a few years, i would understand, but I mean HOW DO YOU OFFER SUCH A DRAMATIC CHANGE AFTER A YEAR?

Do you guys realize that there will be people with a possible 6-speed posting here??????????????????????? and we will be the "auto guys"!!!

Now i know how the 99'TL people felt after the 2000 had the 5speed auto..ALSO, i now know how they felt again after they didnt wait till 2002..and i also know how the CL owners that wanted a TL, but also 260hp felt like when the TL-S came out...

You guys acura BUMFUCKS its buyers????

FUCKYOU ACURA!

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my point exactly minus about 2 f*** words.



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You guys got pens??? Those A$$holes. its true, whoever ordered their cl first got screwed with all the changes that happened over the year. who knows, maybe they'll change the side mirros next month on the 2001 cl-p & s
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That will be cool. At least I will get to test drive one.
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i don't konw, i think that's the same guy that said the tl/cl is on a different platform than the accord during the cl intro.
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Why you guyes gettin so twisted?

Its not like their redesigning it. Their adding an optional tranny.

And theres a new color. Big deal.

The same shit happens with EVERY car.

And its good for us... progress just means youll have one more choice when you buy youre next car.

Lets not turn this into a I hate Acura thread since weve all been begging them to do this from the first place.

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Damn, damn, damn, I sure as hell hope this is true. Can you say custom install to the j30a1???? A J series manual tranny, ABOUT FREAKING TIME!!!!!

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That's a good point. You beg and plead for them to do it, then scream at them for doing it. Gee, that makes sense. Would you have been upset if they'd added 10 HP as well? Cars evolve and get better every year, that's kinda the point.

I guess this means I shouldn't get my CL-S just yet. I should wait for some '01 owners to sell theirs and get an 02 manual.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by amirsafdari:
soopa, your not even mad a little?
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Not at all.

Its not like they added a 6-speed auto... or a true manumatic like an 360modena/M3.

Its just an additional option.

I think if half of you were to go shopping for your CL for the first time youd choose the auto again. Even if it was an option.

Theres nothing to get mad about... if you trully wanted a manual... you shoulda got a diff car. If you want one now... go ahead and trade your car in! Why not?

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by soopa:
Why you guyes gettin so twisted?

Its not like their redesigning it. Their adding an optional tranny.

And theres a new color. Big deal.

The same shit happens with EVERY car.

And its good for us... progress just means youll have one more choice when you buy youre next car.

Lets not turn this into a I hate Acura thread since weve all been begging them to do this from the first place.

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Well said Soopa!! I mean there are so many posts where you guys were asking for a manual...and well, here you go! Acura is listening..You can always try trading, although with the new manual, I am sure the current type-s value is going to drop because of the lack of demand.

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by superdds:
my point exactly minus about 2 f*** words.

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Ditto for me.
When I bought my car, they told me "no fucking way there will EVER be a TL Type-S or a manual tranny for the CL -- there is just no market for it"

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You guys should be proud.. im starting to really like Acura, they are actually listening to their customers..We cryed for a blue color.. and we got it, we wanted a manual and they came out with it, I bet if we say JUMP then acura will.
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Well if your listening Acura, make a better automatic transmission.

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by tw1112:
I am sure the current type-s value is going to drop because of the lack of demand.
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Current Type-S value will not drop because of this.

It isnt like it makes anything in the current S obsolete.

All it does is give you another tranny option... an option that 90% of the market for this car doesnt want.

Resale value will remain steady... if anything this will create a lil more awareness for our car across the market.

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If I don't have my CL-S by the time the manual tranny comes out, I'll gladly take a mint CL-S with headers and springs off someone's hands =)
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by WebToker:
Well if your listening Acura, make a better automatic transmission.

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We have one of the best automatics in the industry.

Its certainly not a SMG but its a damn good auto.

Be happy you dont have a power leeching Toyota tranny.

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After 16 years of driving harsh-riding "non-luxury" 4 cyl and 6 cyl coupes, the main reasons I bought the CL were the excellent V6 engine AND the auto tranny. Makes it hella easier to sip that triple-half-calf mocha-latté-with-a-twist on the daily commute to the orifice...er...office.

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by AcurA Crazy:
You guys should be proud.. im starting to really like Acura, they are actually listening to their customers..We cryed for a blue color.. and we got it, we wanted a manual and they came out with it, I bet if we say JUMP then acura will. </font>
Thats true. Hope you all filled out your acura snail mail surveys.



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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by soopa:
Current Type-S value will not drop because of this.

It isnt like it makes anything in the current S obsolete.

All it does is give you another tranny option... an option that 90% of the market for this car doesnt want.

Resale value will remain steady... if anything this will create a lil more awareness for our car across the market.

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Another good point...I didnt think of it this way. Sometimes I am on this board so much that it makes me think that if the people on this board want it, then everyone that buys acura's want it too

Anyhow, doesn't this make you wonder if someone from acura headquarters is visiting the board but just not posting because of the questions and flaming he/she would get??

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by charliemike:
If I don't have my CL-S by the time the manual tranny comes out, I'll gladly take a mint CL-S with headers and springs off someone's hands =)</font>
ditto. :-)
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Take this, OKay, maybe they are gona offer a a 6-speed stick. But, let us say, they offered a 6-speed SS with 100ms shifting time and you shift yourself 1>2 too.

Are you gona have the stick or the 6-speed, 0.1 sec, Sport Shifter....?

You know what I want, what about yourself?

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As it stands, if they come out with the manual for 2002, I'd probably eat 3G for it. Granted, there are some very nice new cars coming out for 2003 (which will be May-Sept 2002), like the Z, (hopefuly Chrysler Crossfire), and the Newly redesigned Maxima will be here. Not only that, but the new Chevy hardtop-convertible pickup the SSR will be out, and who knows whatelse.

2002-2003 will be a VERY good year.

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Well, I couldn't give two sh!ts if and when they do come out with the manual tranny. When I bought my CL-S, I was specifically looking for a luxury car with an automatic transmission that came fully loaded as is. I didn't want to buy a car that came bone stock and I had to fork over another several grand to get all the goodies(ahem, cough, BMW...isn't there a charge for that auto tranny option?). Besides, I do about 95% city driving so it's more practical for me...I've grown quite disgusted with the chore of stepping on a clutch to shift gears...especially during rush hour. Also kind of hard to talk on my cell phone when I have to shift...makes me feel like a human pretzel. With the auto CL-S, I drive in style, no hassles about shifting/stalling, great overall value, and about 99% of the drivers out there fear and respect the S. They leave me alone...especially the majority of the punk ricers

Also, if I were to go full out race mode...like autocrossing and hardcore drag...the CL-S wouldn't be my first choice. I would shop around for a lightweight, FR or MR(depending on budget) car uniquely devoted for that sport. The CL-S is, and always will be(till I move on), my daily city driver.

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Nashua_Night_Hawk:
Take this, OKay, maybe they are gona offer a a 6-speed stick. But, let us say, they offered a 6-speed SS with 100ms shifting time and you shift yourself 1>2 too.

Are you gona have the stick or the 6-speed, 0.1 sec, Sport Shifter....?

You know what I want, what about yourself?

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I second the tight ratio 6-speed auto. Add a sport/auto/normal switch for drivers to change the ECU programming of the transmission. In sport keep the shifts in the 100 millisecond range.

I'm still thinking about the heel-toe (braking) cues for the downshifts (feels so stupid in an auto - my opinion...)

I also want the 1->2 and 2->1 in SS. If someone is a duffus, then so be it. At this rate, we will all end up running around the streets in 2" thick bubble wrap (for our own good and our own protection!!!)


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Well I am cool with 5spd... not like it will bother me, since i aint changing my car anyway..... But look at Maxima, and Camry or BMW, they all have 5spd as well, but auto always the best seller.... So thats kinda tell you the story!

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Old 04-26-2001, 06:53 AM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by laser1180:
Well I am cool with 5spd... not like it will bother me, since i aint changing my car anyway..... But look at Maxima, and Camry or BMW, they all have 5spd as well, but auto always the best seller.... So thats kinda tell you the story!

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The 6-speed auto is gravy, and would satisfy the "Chuck Yeagers". We do have a long 4th and 5th gear for good fuel economy. The 6-speed auto would get good fuel, and better accel. through all gears.

I had a 4-speed Maxima, and it was brutal trying to pass in that thing in 1st gear. If they had of put in a 5-speed auto, it would have been kick-ass for passing POS trucks up in the hills. I could never get enough speed up in 1st gear to pass around stake trucks -- Ouch!



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Old 04-26-2001, 08:22 AM
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Man, stop the bitching...

Even with a stick as an option, all you bitches really believe it's going to make the CLS that much better? Come on and get real....if Acura is listening, please order up a new CL TypeS that is RWD! This front wheel drive bullshit gotta go...and oh yea..if a RWD comes out, make sure you have a manual transmission as standard to match the "sport" car facad.

All I want is for the freakin' rattles to go away and the muffler to not hang lower than the other side....I paid $30k+ for a car and I don't want to hear rattles god dammit.



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