darrinb

Last week i went to the track and it was 67 deg, ran a 14.21 off a 2.16 60' and trapped 98.68.

Today i went and it was 72 deg, i took the chip out yesterday to see what i would do with out it and see if its really helping me.

I ran 3 14.2's and 5 14.3's. Heres my best time of the day:

r/t........ .134
60'....... 2.189
330'..... 6.096
1/8.......9.237@78.13mph
1000'.....11.955
1/4.........14.233@99.49


So if you look at the number i ran a nearly identical time w/o the chip but trapped 1 mph higher in 5 deg hotter weather. This proves to me that the unichip is actually hurting my times. I guess its time to return it.

evilone

did u have it dyno tuned???

darrinb

nope, not custom tuned

the chip does work if ya get it custom tuned cause mr.steve has trapped at 100 before.

the nearest place to get a custom tune is 3.5 hrs away though

mc222

Makes me feel OK about what I did...I paid the deposit on the unichip, but I just conceeded it and never bought it

mrsteve

iTrader: (1)

Your MPH isn't off by that much. Was the humidity much different? Tire pressure exactly the same? Shifting exactly the same. Less than 1 MPH doesn't really prove much. Recently I've trapped at 97.9 and then like you know at 100.68,

typeR

dude i think it would take 100 passes to prove that you were up or down 10/10 hp tq

mrsteve

iTrader: (1)

Only a dyno is gonna "prove" anything. Too many variables at the track.

evilone

even then if you took it to 3 dynos every one would be diffrent

mrsteve

iTrader: (1)

Yes but you could take it to 1 dyno and run it multiple times with and without the UniChip

darrinb

i have never ever trapped 99 with the chip, but then all the sudden i trap 99 w/o it in warmer weather, what other evidence do u need.

its not like i even feel anything on the butt dyno

mrsteve

iTrader: (1)

But I have trapped at 99.9 with the chip in 80 degree weather and trapped at 97.8 with the chip in 75 degree weather. Too many variables at the track.

mrsteve

iTrader: (1)

Your previous best trap was without the pulleys too correct?

evilone

i know i was just sayn smartass. every time u take it to a dif dyno you will get a dif reading. thats all .. u still gunna sell me ya chip tuff guy

mrsteve

iTrader: (1)

Yes I will, don't hijack though

Ant7701

U didn't return that garbadge-chip yet?????

Joe5.0

Thats cool you are very consistent 14.2's though, gonna need some more powerto run 13's tho, cuz I doubt you'll be able to get better than 2.1 60's.

allmotor_2000

Not sure how the unichip works, but let's understand the issue.

Under WOT, the factory ECU sends static (pre-programmed) values for timing, fuel etc. Now, the unichip probably bypasses this and sends out modified values for timing and fuel (this is static as well, I assume). The unichip may be beneficial for special weather conditions - temps, altitude, barometric pressure, humidity etc. as well as fuel octane, while the factory ECU has a more 'tame' map for general conditions. I wouldn't say the unichip 'hurts' your car's performance... it might help at other times - just that particular situation did not benefit from the unichip.

FunkeeTown

can you tune your stock ecu without buying the chip? can you just hook it up to the laptop and put new figures in? if so, who does that kinda work?

mrsteve

iTrader: (1)

That is not possible with the CL

Mike

darrin, you made the investment on the chip. follow through get it tuned and then put it on the dyno.

mrsteve

iTrader: (1)

Getting it tuned includes a dyno... kill two birds with one stone

darrinb

steve,

my previous best trap was 98.68 just last week w/ the pulley on, i know my car and how it runs at the track, the chip has done nothing for me, i dyno'ed the first map i got and now with the 2nd one i dont feel like dropping a 100 to get a dyno done, so i just ran it at the track w/o the chip in on a warmer day and made my decision.

mrsteve

iTrader: (1)

Good Luck

darrinb

drive 3.5 hrs for a tune, no way


imma return it and get it tuned with the greddy e-manage

darrinb

i dont mean to sound like a dick but i dont want a 600 dollar chip that only works "sometimes"

mrsteve

iTrader: (1)

I believe what he is saying is that this is how these "piggyback" chips work. The emanage might give you the same result.

Joe5.0

Yeah I say send it back Darrin. Most chips only lean out the engine for more power, didnt you dyno with it and you were way lean?

Put that $600 towards a used blower, that's the only mod (or nitrous) that will guarantee 13's. I am not sure if even an e-manage will get you 2 tenths, maybe I'm wrong.

Mike

children these days

CleanCL

iTrader: (4)

in general i thnk its crazy to spend 600$ for nothing, thats a lot of money, but 3.5 hours for a tune is nothing! we drive states!

mrsteve

iTrader: (1)

Seems like the emanage will be more expensive than the UniChip as well, especially with the PnP harness. Plus you gotta pay for them to tune it which will take much longer than a UniChip tune because there already is a map in the UniChip that just needs altered slightly.

darrinb

1. i'd prolly get alot of rock chips

2. i go to school fulltime

3. i work 30 hrs a week

4. i am a full time post whore

darrinb

i think i can get a tenth or 2 from cooler air, and maybe i'll do the e-man

prolly will never do nitrous or the s/c....gotta save up for that c6 z06

darrinb

i can get the e-man tuned to my car w/ everything for around the same price as the uni-chip, if not a little less, my car can be tuned in under an hour, if u were around the area you would know dan from godspeed is the man w/ tuning

Mike

hopefully the eman will work out better for you.

you going to dyno the car?

darrinb

yea if i go w/ the e-man

evilone

yea im gettin mr steves chip when he gets his s/c im def glad he allready had it dyno tuned. but there are a shit load of tuners in my area. and a couple of pro drag import teams 2. like inline pro( i dont go to them because they seem like dicks to me)

darrinb

^^

get it tuned where steve got his tuned, cause they are a uni chip dealer

mrsteve

iTrader: (1)

My chip should be fine for him without another tune. They added a bunch more fuel into the map based upon what the original map had. Not many changes needed to be made to get the power gains I saw. Basically 35% fuel is cut from 3500 to redline. With a few minor tweaks under 4% everynow and then up to redline. Also, not a whole lot of timing changes.

darrinb

everycar is different so you'll have to see