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Old May 21, 2003 | 08:35 AM
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To Toyo or to Yoko?

What do you guys think?

Toyo FZ4's or Yokohama AVSdb S2's

All suggestions welcome, I need an all season that's reliable and has good to great handling.

Thanks!!
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Old May 21, 2003 | 08:44 AM
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don't like the FZ4 personally...don't think u'd like the performance of it...i still got my Pilot Sport A/S's on stock '01 rims if yer interested


BTW, where the fuk u been!!!!!!!!!
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Old May 21, 2003 | 08:49 AM
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Been busy...if you were on IM this wouldn't bee so hard to keep in touch. What's the pitch on the tires and rims?
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Old May 21, 2003 | 08:53 AM
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Have you ever considered Continental tire? I just ordered some Continental Contiextreme contact tires in OEM size. They have an outstanding review average at Tirerack.com. Continental must be doing something right to be the tire of choice for Porsche 911.
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Old May 21, 2003 | 09:00 AM
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Originally posted by Mercury
Been busy...if you were on IM this wouldn't bee so hard to keep in touch. What's the pitch on the tires and rims?
they're the '01 rims, so yeah, they jet out, and the tires jet out more too, so there's a slim chance of road rash/curbing

yeah the firm took away IM
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Old May 21, 2003 | 09:02 AM
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I was leaning toward the Yoko's but don't get why there is such a price diff. 112 for the FZ4's and 144 for Yoko's..any ideas? Never look at the continentals tho..I'll check today.
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Old May 21, 2003 | 09:06 AM
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u pay for what u get is how i decipher it

it's like y spend a ton of money on T1-S's when u can get ECSTA's for like $75 cheaper per tire??
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Old May 21, 2003 | 09:11 AM
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Originally posted by Scooter
they're the '01 rims, so yeah, they jet out, and the tires jet out more too, so there's a slim chance of road rash/curbing

yeah the firm took away IM
they took your IM away...that sux...i still have mine
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Old May 21, 2003 | 09:20 AM
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Thing is ppl still think they're great. There has to be reasons beyond price. CL was a bang for the buck deal too.
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Old May 21, 2003 | 09:32 AM
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there r way too many factors where u can break down prices like in tires...i guess it all comes down to softness/hardness of tire, technology used to develop/implement in the tire, compound/treadlife, etc...when u play GT3 and r buying tires, u pay quite a hefty $$ for softer and softer tires, and u get a lot better grip but at the expense of treadlife...Pilot Sport A/S's have a technology where they combined the softness of a real performance tire with the longevity treadlife of a firmer tire, so they charged u $200 a pop b/c this was a new concept for them...and this concept earned them the best a/s tire in comparo tests done by TireRack


don't ferget too yer paying for brandname...for ex, Michelin tires r naturally inflated just b/c they're Michelins...Kumho isn't as "popular" in passenger cars as Michelin, so yer gonna see a more realistic price

dunno if this is helping much
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Old May 21, 2003 | 09:53 AM
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Pirelli's P7000's any thoughts ?
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Old May 21, 2003 | 10:26 AM
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Have you also considered yokohama Es100s? Those are the great bang per buck tires btw.
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Old May 21, 2003 | 10:29 AM
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Originally posted by Mercury
Pirelli's P7000's any thoughts ?
makes for some good reading...

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/...port_as_rd.jsp

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/sumi_htr_plus.jsp
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Old May 21, 2003 | 11:06 AM
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I had the Toyo FZ4's on my car for about 600 miles - they were loud and squealed almost as much as the stocks did. I returned them and got the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S - they are definitely worth the extra price - hardly squeal, not much louder than the stocks, handle great in rain/dry, and they have a 400 treadwear rating so they should last a bit longer than the stocks.
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Old May 21, 2003 | 11:22 AM
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Originally posted by Scooter
BTW, where the fuk u been!!!!!!!!!
Where have you been Mike?
You must be up to like TEN Tranny’s by now HUH ?

Still no 6-Speed ???

Shawn S
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Old May 21, 2003 | 11:29 AM
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I have the Yoko AVS DB not sure about the 2 though. Tough to compare to anything cause i've only had stock on beside these. I have the 235-45-17's. A huge improvement over stock, but you'd get that with just about any Z rated tire. They are quiter, drastically changing the sound when going from asphalt to concrete portions of the highway. They have a decent tread ware rating too.
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Old May 21, 2003 | 01:42 PM
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I Just got rid of the stock Mich's after 3k on my '03 CL-S...put on a new set of Sumitomo HTR+. They are excellent so far...today I got to test them in the wet road conditions and they were amazing compared to the mich's.....the stats and reviews on Tirerack.com are accurate for these Sumi's . They cost me 337 total (w/shipping!!!) for the set.
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Old May 22, 2003 | 09:42 AM
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Ok I decided to go with the Yoko AVSdb S2's...What size would you recommend I see everything on this board from 215/50/17 to 245/45/17's what should I get?? I do have comptech springs on her.
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Old May 22, 2003 | 09:45 AM
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Oh and they are for stock Rims.
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Old May 22, 2003 | 10:09 AM
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you need some rims mike
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