Mercury

I have a deal at STS Auto for 600 + Tax for the tires...is this good?

BusGradCLS

YES!!! shit does that include all the mountign and lifetiem balancign rotation??? if so what town in jersey is this at?

Mercury

I got the Px of 600 for special ordering them and mounting/balancing. Lifetime ??? I dunno. STS in Oakhurst/Ocean Township NJ.

Mike

That's a good deal for the tires!

BBsAcuraRacing

gOOD DEAL MAKE SURE IT HAS OOPS,lifetime replacement with no proration.

Fabvsix

It is a steal ! It is a pain in the ass to locate these tires in Northern California ! Best price I could beg for was 175.50 per tire, plus $$$ install, which came to $821.93 with a 300 dollar deposit ! I am going with Michelim sport tires ! Sorry Technique and EricL. The quote for these tires is too high and most had negative comments about the Toyo's........

Mercury

So are the Toyo's bad tires?

Mike

I've had them for a few months I love them.

Red Rider

Jesus, one guy says the Toyos may not be good and you're worried !! Do some homework and do a search and you'll see tons of people who swear by Toyos, me included.
Sorry, i'm not being rude but get the facts. $600 for 4 Toyo 235-45-17s is highway robbery ! Run and buy them.

BBsAcuraRacing

Iv e a lot of research and talked to many competitors at solo II events. The majority are running Nitto 555 extremes. The Toyo has a more aggressive tread pattern if cosmetics are more importatnt. I paid 112/tire from Discount for 555's. They stick like glue.

SchwartzSM

How do they hold up in rain/snow?

Nashua_Night_Hawk

NITTO's in 235/45/17 are $119 each here at http://www.discounttiredirect.com/

Mercury

I put the order in 150 each installed!

Fabvsix

I didn't mean to imply that Toyo are bad tires ! I was surprised who most of the tire dealers spoke negatively about Toyo's. It's just a pain in the ass to find them at a good price in California I suppose......

Mercury

Does anyone know what the model FZ4 is like??? And also what's the diff on a TS-1 and TS-1 + ?? Thanks!!!!!

Technique

T1-S Proxes replaces the T1-Plus. Don't get the T1-Plus.

The T1-S is the best tire, PERIOD. For dry and wet, no need to get anything else.

EricL

Most of the dealers can't make a "good" profit, and while they(Toyo) make an amazing tire, Toyo has some of the creepiest tire dealers around handling them. When I had an issue come up with my wheel caps on my SSRs from the dealer I bought the tires from (Washington Tire and Wheel), they told me that everything was a favor, and they owed me nothing. (They basically told me to fuck-off )



So, you can find the tires and get them cheap, and 150-160 each is the going rate (at a cheap-o) dealer. But, you might want to talk to someone about how reliable the dealer is when it comes to problems (I have no problems with the tires). In fact, the above advice applies to any purchase.

I would have gladly paid an extra 10 bucks a tire to have a "nice" tire dealer that weren't scumbags to deal with. Check with Technique -- his guys up north seem to be good guys.

Don't ever deal with Washington Tire and Wheel, you will regret it if you ever have a minor problem with anything...


Suggestion 2:

There a few places on the web (kind of like Tire Rack [who have been great]) that will sell you the Toyos and drop ship them to a vendor – check around…

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spiroh

For thos eof you with the 235 series tires. Do you experience any issues when you are on the highway? I was talking to somebody, and they mentioned that with wider tires the steering wheel moves to the left or to the right, and never stays straight. Is this true?

Thanks,

Spiro

EricL

I have never had this problem, and the car tracks perfectly at 130+. My wife who is rather petite, has also driven the car and remarked how stable and comfortable the car was to drive on the road at high speeds!


BTW -- I can only speak about the Toyos and my car. Perhaps, someone with a "problem" needs an alignment or a different brand of tires and/or wheels.

Dacat

Sheeoooot. I bought my Zenetti's from them, the next day after I got them I heard about Ogolden's accident and I called them back wanting to exchange them. They said f-off too and got all angry at me. I couldn't do *anything* except report them to my credit card company. Unfortunately, they couldn't do anything either because for some reason, credit card companies don't insure or do anything with car parts. I would never go back to them either.

Nashua_Night_Hawk

With my Nittos, I had both an alignemnt (due to a minor accident with my stock tires) and balancing issue (no cause).

Town Fair Tire did both alignment and balancing (twice) to get right at no cost!

Great after sale Service, I wish they do that from the first time right though.

However, with 235/40 series, I am prety sure that you would feel the road and the tirs would "track" the road surface curves more...I guess this is what your friend is implying.

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BobB

I have Bridgestone PP-03s, 235-45-17, on SSR Competitions and Comptech Springs. The handling is much improved over stock and I have not noticed any rubbing at all. However, I haven't driven it very hard with more than one other person in the car. The only negative that I have noticed is what has been referred to as "tracking" at low speeds.

Acuraman

Mercury: That is an outstanding price for the whole package. I have the same tires but had to go through a differnt route to get it all done. I ordered the tires through a local "speed shop" where a friend works. But, I did not want to trust their installer with my new (Zenetti) wheels, so I had my "regular" tire store do the mounting and balancing act. Between dealing with the two separate places, the total cost was $823.00. To me the tires are well worth that cost and I acknowledge that I paid a little extra for the "confort factor!!" As for the quality, I don't think you will be at all disappointed. I haven't been. They have been great on both dry and wet roads -- I'd keep them off snow though!! :p Good luck with your purchase.

Jayru2

I have 235/45/17 Toyo Ts1 mounted on my car. all I can say is what a fucking deal! these tires grip harder then any tires if seen.

and I only paid $700 TOTAL with 3 yr Alignment/ Life Bal. / Life Rd hzrd.

EricL

I'm sorry to here this. I originally said that they were ok. Perhaps karma will catch-up with them eventually, or the word will get around (it usually does) and they will not screw anymore members or other good people out there.

Al Uminum

BobB

I'm extremely glad to hear you have no rubbing issues as far as you can tell. Can you tell me the offset on your rims?

Thanks

BobB

The offset on the SSR Competitions is +48 and the wheels are 17" x 8".

Al Uminum

Oh my, let me see if I got this right.
I've got 7.5 width rims and you have 8's. Difference of about 12.7mm? (correct)?

You have offset of +48, I have +45. Difference of 3mm? (correct)?

So here's what I need to know. Does this mean my rims will be about 6.7mm further from the OUTSIDE fender and 3.7mm further from the inside than yours? Anybody? In other words with a lower offset, is the rim further under the car?

Thank you
Rob

LowFlight

My Dad sells all Toyos and I have had both the FZ4 and T-1s on my 96 Jetta GLX VR-6. You cannot kill either tire. I put about 40k on the FZ4s and about 55k on the T-1s. It all comes down to price and Preference .. The T-1's look better than the FZ4. The FZ4's don't look bad either. They alot better than the POS Michelin Granny tires that are on mine. Since it is only two weeks old, I will probably keep them for awile.

FDao

Rob,

With a lower offset, the rim is further away from the struts and closer to the fender.

Al Uminum

Frank, thanks for the info. Very helpful.
Rob