ok so I didn't wanna have to do this but in the past year 1/2 ive been totally screwed 3 times while buying car parts... in the beginning of 05 i got screwed out of half of my money on a supercharger...(ebay) but 2 diff. members on the forum have screwed me as well... the 1st was last summer when i had gotten a cusco strut bar... sent payment and never got anything.. member played dumb after 1 month of no shipment of item saying that he had no clue what i was talking about. NOW the member Tommy020 had sold me the Thermoblock spacers... I sent the payment via money order, he said that he had recieved it and all... I have been waiting over a month 1/2 now and he ignors my p/m's and yes I do see that he signs on! I'M REALLY PISSED ABOUT THIS SO THIS IS ME VENTING AND HOPEFULLY ILL BE GETTING MY SHIT SOON!!! sorry i dont like diming people out at all but this is rediculous!

 

Ouch, I know it's hard but maybe it's better to buy from a reputable online shop with a major credit card and save yourself the hassle and be short $20.

 

damn man, sorry to hear that. hope you get your shit.

 

that dude always seemed sketchy to me. what do you expect with red JDM type ARREEEE acura badges ?

 

That sucks. Thankfully everyone I've dealt with on here have been really reputable.

 

If you paid through paypal. They have some kind of guarantee I think. The person will have to provide a tracking number to ensure that they actually sent something. All these big payment companies have some kind of guarantee.

 

That blows man, I always worry about that when I mess around in the black market.I'm sure there are some legal things you can do since you have his name and address.

 

I don't know... I lost the most $$ with the 1st charger I went to buy.. I even did my own detective work by bringing the cell phone # to my boys cell shop and tracing it back.. I even gave the poliece the exact adress and name, but yet they still gave me shit saying how long it would take and they prob couldn't do anything about it blah blah.. but yet THEY NEVER HAVE ANY PROBLEMS PULLING US ALL OVER FOR TINT!

 

Try a small claims court and see if possibly you could subpoena him from out of state to court.

 

unfortunately, people suck. you know that you can't even trust those who are in your face. let alone across the country and communicating through wires.

 

always pay with paypal and credit card. you can never go wrong.

 

I dont understand, If I was going to rip off someone, it would be for more than $90 bucks for the price of Spacers. I just don't see the benefit of him doin this for such a small amount with such a paper trail for him to get caught....

 

John, im sorry to hear that brother! Damn, anything I can do, let me know!

 

yea. sorry bout your troubles man. Same shit happened to me on a prelude site couple of years ago but ended with me getting my money back.


Tommy020----wheeeere arrrrre youuuuu?!

 

I didn't know about this problem before, but CL Platano brought it to my attention.

I will send tommy020 a PM and see if I can get some answers, and will let you know as I find things out.

 

im not sure about the rules in Black market but i would think if you can prove tommy offered to sell you something through this board and that you fullfilled youre end and he did not ,i would think it would result in a permanant BAN... little consulation im sure but atleast noone else might fall victim.


looking at the similar threads link at the bottom of this page im on of them...just as an update to anyone that chooses to read i did get complete coopertaion from the seller ,he had an eclipse and was sold these as 5/114.3/+45 it' s a shame because they were mint with brand new T1-S 235/40/18's i held them for about 2 weeks until he found a new buyer which he then paid for me to ship to that person...with the exception of not getting the wheel i truly loved it was painless...in heinsight i would have never gotten my 13.3 with the 18's

 

sorry to hear that man. hope karma screws those lil lowlife bastards over.

 

Yea banning someone only works untill they make up a new name or something... It just goes to show that you really can't trust some people.. i mean iv'e met some of the most chill people on here at the meets ect. and cant understand why that kinda shit still happenes.. esp. when people that scam have been on this board 4 a long time..

 

thanks Ron..

 

sorry to hear about this. time to stop buying things from shady people.

 

I couldn't agree more.


Didn't something similar to this happen around the time I first became a member? I think it involved some member named "katana" or something?

Shady, scamming people suck! I know I've had issues with buying and selling things on here but at least I don't just ignore people. I can understand a snag from time to time and it's understandable but to completely ignore someone... Well, that's a whole different story.

 

I tried to send the PM but his box is full, so I sent an email.


to typeR: I get more of these problems than you would think, and usually work them out. I think I have banned a few people as a result of this, and also banned a few from the black market. It is not always easy to find out who did what to who, but if I can determine blame then I take the necessary action.

Will know more when I get a reply from tommy020. He's been in the forums today, but hasn't posted since April 19, 2006.

 

Thanks Ron

 

good luck man

 

HANG EM'! lol

 

Any word yet? I hope he at least has the balls to say something.

 

At this point I'd doubt it, He must have noticed this thread by now and hasn't responded.

 

HIGHLY DOUBT HELL COME OUT AND SAY ANYTHING...

 

is this the same tool that once tried convincing people weapon*R intakes were worth anything?!?!?

 

Yeah he's the same numbnut that thinks he can get like 50whp from just i/h/e/p

 

He replied to my email with this: don't worry, he will get his spacers 100%.No scam here.

I sent him another email asking for more information. That wasn't much of a reply. I also asked him to clean out his PM box so he can get PM's.

 

you do get about that with those

 

And I'll be the one Dynoing it to verify =)

 

to future proof anything like this happening you need to do a few things:

research the seller. ask for board references or ebay id or anything that shows he's legit.

use major credit card or paypal. never cash, money order, western union. keep tabs on how long it's been as you get a timeframe to file a complaint. if you miss this window, you're damn near sol.

pay extra for tracking #'s. ups automatically generates one for you with a package.
fedex does too i believe. usps is garbage. never use them

get as much personal info about them as you can. get them on the phone even so you can open a dialogue with them. try to collect more than 1 telephone #. a home address. perhaps a work address that you can verify.

after you've taken all these steps and you can not collect on the goods or your money, call the local police department in the sellers town. explain to them the situation and follow up with the department daily! i cant stress enough how important it is to light a fire under the police's ass but it needs to be done. they should act on the incident as any other theft or forgery case they deal with. continue to call them and keep track of officer names and badge #s. provide them with all the information you have and let them handle it from there. and again, if the detective doesnt call you back in a timely manner, call him/her!

lastly if all else fails. make the seller's information public. im on a mtorcycle board that has members all over the states and beyond. it's not unusual for them to all get together and dig the dirt up for you. one kid i remember from texas tried to pull a fast one on about 4 members. none of them got the parts. so a small group went to his house, took pics of the yard, his car, his house, his pool, and his big ass swimming in it. even had a few of his parents doing the hedges. they posted the pictures online and he found out about it and in less than a week everyone had their money back.

anonymity behind a computer screen only takes you so far if you're a scammer.
eventually the real world will catch up to you and when it does, it's gonna hurt. no lube

best of luck with tommy020

 

there's been dozens of dyno's

 

50 crank hp for his CL-P. He was claiming some outrageous number like 70 crank hp before (50whp).

 

the honda accord shows 34 WHP ,comptech ice box at 14 and exhaust i think is 8 along with 10 from the pulley...ive never looked closely at the CL-P but i would think this would be close ...maybe 25 on the headers but still take the 23% drive train loss that everyone thinks we have (20% is more likely see revised hp figures for all 2006 honda/acuras) ..70 crank hp -20% =54 whp...


did some looking and probably 40 whp is closer to reality and therefore 50 crank with above mentioned 20% drivetrain loss

 

I would love to have a tracking # to verify that... but that just might be me asking to much...

 

Good luck bro. I'm dealing with someone right now as well. Hope things work out.

 

he finally got back to me today with a tracking #.. should be here by tuesday, ill let everyone know how it goes..