TL-S Review in new MT (0-60MPH in 6.28sec)

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Old 03-31-2001 | 04:13 PM
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TL-S Review in new MT (0-60MPH in 6.28sec)

Just got the new Motor Trend in the mail, they have a comparison of 6 sport-lux sedans including the TL-S which they show a 0-60 in 6.28 and 1/4mi of 14.7 @97.6 MPH which is essentially dead even with the 330i with 6.11, 14.65/97

Other notable, epa rating is 18/24 now...one of the worst of the bunch (though it was the only automatic!!!)

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Old 03-31-2001 | 04:18 PM
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If that TL-S pulls 6.28s 14.7s @97MPH
MY CLS + Injen CAI should pull 6.0 14.2s@99MPH


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Old 03-31-2001 | 04:30 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Nashua_Night_Hawk:
If that TL-S pulls 6.28s 14.7s @97MPH
MY CLS + Injen CAI should pull 6.0 14.2s@99MPH


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Just think what it will be with an Injen CAI...



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Old 03-31-2001 | 04:35 PM
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Dammmm it, I would love to see Mike's CLS on the Strip. Also, Webtoker, u r getting the pulleys, right ? are they installed yet?

That would be sweet kickin ass, smashing hard, squashing 'tangs, 'tegs, IS3, and some BMWsssss....

Another issue, what is that nosie I hear after I break and come to stop. It sounds like when the stock springs decompress, they start squeaking


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Old 03-31-2001 | 04:44 PM
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heh..i thought cl-s is a bit faster than tl-s..

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Old 03-31-2001 | 04:49 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Type S:
heh..i thought cl-s is a bit faster than tl-s..
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No.

The only difference between TLS and CLS is that the TLS is a few pounds heavier.

But it doesnt weigh nearly enough more to make any noticeable speed difference.

They are the same car. So why compare them?

0-60 #'s within milliseconds of each other should only be compared if both cars are at the same track under the same conditions.

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Old 03-31-2001 | 04:51 PM
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Soopa, aren't you at NJ meet?

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Old 03-31-2001 | 05:10 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Nashua_Night_Hawk:
Soopa, aren't you at NJ meet?

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I guess he didn't get a V1. I wouldn't want to make the drive w/o a radar detector either. You would be just asking for [another] ticket.

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Old 03-31-2001 | 05:41 PM
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What were the other cars they compared? Was the TL-S #1?

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Old 03-31-2001 | 08:29 PM
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I currently own a 2002 TL-S, and I've raced a Buick Regal GSE (you can read my topic in Racing Stories: TLS vs.GSE) and it was virtually a dead-heat. And the GSE has been touted as having a 6.6 0-60 and 14.9 1/4 time -- by virtually every car mag. Go figure --

I don't believe the 6.28 sec time -- but when it comes down to milliseconds -- squealing your tires at take=off could mean the difference between a time of 6.28 and 6.5 sec.

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Old 03-31-2001 | 10:09 PM
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What other cars are in the comparison?
Old 03-31-2001 | 10:26 PM
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Okay I checked the motortrend website and know what six sport sedans they are comparing in their May issue, here they are:

Acura TL Type S
Audi A6 2.7T Quattro
BMW 330i
Mercedes Benz C320
Saab 93 Viggen
Volvo S60 T5

Where is Lexus IS300 huh? Come on.
Old 03-31-2001 | 10:31 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by SilverCL225hp:
Okay I checked the motortrend website and know what six sport sedans they are comparing in their May issue, here they are:

Acura TL Type S
Audi A6 2.7T Quattro
BMW 330i
Mercedes Benz C320
Saab 93 Viggen
Volvo S60 T5

Where is Lexus IS300 huh? Come on.
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MAXIMA SE 2001 does not count as a sport sedan? !!!!


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- Trunk liner
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- 03/19/01: Injen Polished CAI
Old 03-31-2001 | 10:50 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by kensteele:
I guess he didn't get a V1. I wouldn't want to make the drive w/o a radar detector either. You would be just asking for [another] ticket.
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Yea I called V1 after the friggen thing didnt show up... and they informed me it was on back-order (a week and a half after ordering it)

Bastards.

So unfortunately I couldnt make the trip.

I have very very very bad luck...

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Old 04-01-2001 | 12:12 AM
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Aren't most 1/4 mile times in car mags adjusted for a 59-degree outside temp?


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Old 04-01-2001 | 12:17 AM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by MikeN:
Aren't most 1/4 mile times in car mags adjusted for a 59-degree outside temp?


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You are kidding -- aren't you?

The R/T tests at least show the temp. But is that when they were getting their massages (from a preferred vendor), or the day of the car test.

And the temps were NOT 59 degrees (K, C, or F)!!!!


Old 04-01-2001 | 12:56 AM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by DrJeckle and Hyde:
You are kidding -- aren't you?

The R/T tests at least show the temp. But is that when they were getting their massages (from a preferred vendor), or the day of the car test.

And the temps were NOT 59 degrees (K, C, or F)!!!!

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Well, I'm more of a motorcycle buff than a car buff. The m/c mags usually give 1/4 mile times with an *. The * usually says, "Performance with test-session weather corrected to sea-level standard conditions (59 degrees F, 29.92 in. of mercury)."

What's up with that?


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Old 04-01-2001 | 03:15 AM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Nashua_Night_Hawk:

MAXIMA SE 2001 does not count as a sport sedan? !!!!


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It's too cheap to be in the $30k category

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Old 04-01-2001 | 03:26 AM
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Well, I'm more of a motorcycle buff than a car buff. The m/c mags usually give 1/4 mile times with an *. The * usually says, "Performance with test-session weather corrected to sea-level standard conditions (59 degrees F, 29.92 in. of mercury)."

What's up with that?

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Comparing apples and oranges. Your motorcycle mags are putting out better info than "most" of the popular car mags.

In that BMW vs Acura CLS review, they were talking about driving the cars around in 100 degree temps. I do believe the remark about temps was buried in the copy of the article.

If R/T, C/D, M/T and others are going to have a back section with pages of respective car times, they really should have a note about temp, altitude, barometer.

Also, this is a bit off-track, but they never quite nail-down their test data in regard to handling. The M3 was tested in Europe at one point, they got the wheel sizes all screwed-up.

If someone drives around a skid pad and the skid pad is asphalt, but another skid pad is concrete; and yet another is glue-faced, what do the readings really prove?

The Dr. approves of a normalized/corrected 1/4 mile time. Wish the car mags would get with the program.


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I was lurking in bimmer.org when I found the article in question. If you haven't read it, here's the bootleg scan. (No, it's not mine.)

http://albums.photopoint.com/j/Album...a=12463710&f=0

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