LazyKiD414

im sick and tired of being paranoid that there is gonna be a cop around the next bend. so im looking into radar detectors. so basically i wanna kow whats the best radar detectors around and how muh is it gonna cost me?

1StGenCL

Don't have this model but everyone says the Valentine One is by far the best. Might want to do a search on V1.

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No more scratches thanks to the dumbass who walked on my car and had to pay to have it repainted.

SchwartzSM

Good, yes, but also rumored to be coming out with a new model shortly. Might want to wait a bit...

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White/Parch CL-S/Nav/Spoiler/28%tint/3M Clear Bra/Anxiously awaiting Audio & performance mods

Type S Smokes All

ya bro, get the V-1. i got it and it saves lives

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Nick
01' Cl-S Silver/ Black W/ Navi and Spoiler
V-1 Radar Hard Wired, Limo Tint all around
Comptech Headers, Sways, Springs, and AEM CAI
I've got one of the CLS's from the fast batch.
Lead Foot!

kensteele

Get a V1 today. Waiting is like waiting for a cure for hepatitus before getting a blood transfusion. You'll die (or get ticketed) while waiting. The proper steps are to purchase, live free of paranoia, observe the new and improved model (if it ever comes out), consider purchasing, sell your old V1 on ebay for prices that nearly rival a new one out of the box!

Weight your options: being miserable waiting for V2 to come out vs. heartache that your like new unit falls into the #2 spot as the detector of all detectors.

exaggarating a bit....

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* 2001 Acura CL Type S * Blk/Blk * Navigator * Spoiler * Moonroof Visor * V1 *
* Since 3/31/2000 *
* Road Warrior *

EricL

I feel much better after placing my order and getting a hard wire install date.

The expression, "take a load off..." comes to mind

I'm ready to let the V1 do the psychic "cop" readings for me. (Also, like running around with four impacted wisdom teeth that need removing -- got to get it fixed sooner than later.)

(You guys should get a commission on all of the V1 sales...)



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Silver 2001 CL-S with NAVI

• Toyo T1S 235/45ZR17-97W* Proxies on 17x8" SSR Competition wheels (50 lbs less than stock)
• Comptech headers & sways
• Silver AEM CAI
• 12 coats of Zaino magic
• NEUSPEED Upper Strut Tie Bar ordered
• Stainless Brake lines coming (Brembos?)
• V1 ordered

Al Uminum

Actually it's not all fatal for those with Hepatitus C. The use of alpha interferon combined with ribivirin has caused almost 61% to be cured from the virus.

Oh btw blood transfusions aren't even an option.(?) Getting rid of the virus or a liver transplant is. While the transplant doesn't cure it does provide alot more time for the patient. So, especially with all of the street racers on this board, remember to fill out that card that will allow the harvesting of your undamaged organs.

We now return you to your regularly scheduled channal.



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Scorpius

Hepatitis needs to get nuked... all those viruses killing people gets annoying very quickly.

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Red 3.2 CL-S.
"Life is too short not to be Italian." -Paul Sorvino
"How do you expect your date to turn over if your engine doesn't?" -Original
Proud member of "I didn't hit the curb like a dope and scratch my rims" club.

Quick Silver

Why do you always want to nuke something?

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4% tint on the backs and 34% on the fronts
Eibach Pro-Kit Springs (2" Drop)
AEM Cold Air Intake
2 JL-Audio 10"xW3 and a MTX 6500D Monoblock Amp.

JZ

Doesn't V1 allow for upgrades so that even if you buy one today you can get it upgraded down the line?


By the way--Hepatitis C is the most life threatening of the hepatitis viruses. 60% cure rate for combo. therapy (ribitron) is too optimistic; however, newly created pegylated interferon plus ribivirin is much, much, much more effective than the old combination therapy for those who were never on ribitron.

Did you know the hot little Ashley Judd cleared hep C on interferon alone?

Sorry to ramble, I work with the stuff.



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Black/black CLS
Comptech headers, springs, swaybars
Koni yellows
Polarg M6 road lamps
Solaris Hi beams
Potenza RE730 225/45/17
Red AEM CAI
Denso Iridium plugs
35% metallic tint

Technique

There have been rumors of a new V1 for like a year now. They recently (last month) changed it a little (but didn't announce anything) by making it 0.3 inches slimmer. That's about it. I'd just buy it...

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Silver CL-S w/ Navi, Spoiler, Wheel Locks, Trunk Tray, 19169, 9005
Toyo 235/45ZR17-97W* T1-S Proxes on 17X8 SSR Competition Wheels (47.2 lbs lighter than stock wheel+tire setup)
Comptech Sways
G-Tech (Full tank of gas, 60F, VSA off, SS) - 5.94 seconds
V-1 Hardwired

Red Rider

Eric, where are you getting the install done ? I just got mine and have to call around. Thanks.

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San Marino Red
Spoiler
Comptech Headers
Comptech Sways
Toyo Proxes T1-S
Valentine One

Al Uminum

JZ

Don't apologize about rambling. Somebody I know had a simple hernia operation 25 years ago, needed a unit of blood, and has had Hep C since. He was a nonrespondee twice to the earlier alpha interferon (like Ashly Judd was lucky enough to respond to) and now seems to be doing OK with the pegylated. His Dr., leading Dr at Mount Sinai is treating him and the data shows that almost 61% DO respond to the pegylated and ribivirin therapy. Correct me if I'm misinformed.
It's nice news. Still hates Micky Mantle though.

Thanks
Rob


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bone_stock

I've been getting flamed for doing this, but here it goes again. Before you buy a V1 (I own one by the way) you should check out this link. I know people say this site is sponsored by ESCORT and mantained by an Ex Valentine employee, but what if the rumor is a rumor and the site is legit? Remember the V1 hasn't changed one iota in about 7 years. It is highly possible that the new ESCORT out performes the V1 now. 5 to 7 years ago the V1 was king, but today and until the new model comes out I think there may be better. The NEW ESCORT may be it! Finally, for arguments sake lets just say they're equal in performance. The ESCORT is $100 cheaper. Who are you gonna buy now?

kensteele

Unfortunately your argument is flawed. I can almost guarantee you that the V1 has changed over the years. Even though I don't work there, being familiar with [general] manufacturing processes, the following is logic [likely]. There is not way they had 7 years worth of parts for the V1. No way the forcasted and built units for a seven-year inventory, either. So over that seven year period, here's what probably happened:

1.New and improved better performing longer lasting parts were utilized which over the years make the newer units more sensitive and more reliable than the older units. Less like to be susceptable to degradation.

2.I've mentioned this before and it still applies. There are different versions of software for the V1 and I can guarantee you that there were improvements in the software that we don't know about that will make the newer unit more sensitive and more reliable than units with older software.

3.The combination of new hardware and new software can account for significant gains in sensitivity during non-typical radar situations. Everyday usage may not be readily noticable to the casual user.

4.If I were V1, I would not divulge all of my information to the public. I would only say "V1 is the best" and the "unit is upgradeable". Why would I tell you that a Korean manufacturer of my capacitors went out of business and I switched to a Japanese manufacturer who was cheaper and more reliable? Why would I tell you that the factory that use to make the antenna in Malaysia moved to Singapore in 1998 and ever since, we've seen minor gains in antenna sensitivity on the K band? The "DSP controller" which was the source of significant loss and a major headache for our software programmers was made by a company in Chicago who got there parts from Mexico. The parts ran dry in 1999. Now they get them from a Brazilian supplier and whallaaa! The loss is gone! Redo the code, roll in the part on the factory floor, up-suffix the units, start a new ESN block, we already have enough margin built in a $399 a pop to cover the $2 increase in this new part. What do I tell the consumer? Nothing, he doesn't need to know. All hypothetical examples.

5.The V1 programmers haven't been sitting idle for seven years waiting for somebody to say "let's make a V2."

Of course this is not exactly what happened. But I can tell you it work this way for cellular phones sometimes. Will it produce vastly different results in a side by side test? Probably not. Is it possible to realize the opposite (i.e. losses and failures and poorer performance)? Yes.

A radar detector is not just how sensitive the antenna is. It's not just strictly a hardware issue. It's the combination of a lot of things including the hardware design, the software, and their integration. Then you have to put them in the field to observe the results. If it were simply the specs, why perform the field test? And even if the price of the V1 hasn't changed or the advertising / sales channels haven't changed or the phyiscal appearance hasn't changed, that doesn't really mean much. Will we ever completely know? Not likely but if it's like any other device in the electronics industry.....

Same with the Passport. A new model doesn't automatically mean all new parts and all new design and completely new software and a superior unit in all areas regardless of what they say in advertising.

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* 2001 Acura CL Type S * Blk/Blk * Navigator * Spoiler * Moonroof Visor * V1 *
* Since 3/31/2000 *
* Road Warrior *

bone_stock

I concur 100% as I'm a Electronics Manufacturing Engineer by profession as well as education. Like you mentioned I don't work for ESCORT or Valentine, but by profession I know that ESCORT would not have come out with a new detector if it didn't meet or exceed the V1. After all Valentine is an Ex ESCORT employee and he's been kicking their butts for years. I still say price not being important it's a toss up, but when you factor in price the ESCORT wins. Very much like the CLS wins over the 3 series.

Dacat

I think one of us here needs to ride with a V1 and an Escort (latest one) at the same time for at least a few weeks. These days, I don't believe too many web sites and their opinions. How do we know what year/model V1 they used in that test? It doesn't say.

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Retired: 94 540i

Sypher

Of course, riding with both at the same time can invalidate your results. Many radar detectors do not work within their normal parameters when in close proximity to other detectors. Some even make other detectors give false readings. Separate but equal road tests in a controlled environment seem to be the best way to compare. You'd have to find an officer willing to help you test in a couple of different situations: long distance line-of-sight, curvies, rolling hills, following a semi, etc.

Anyways, whether or not Escort has finally come up with a better mousetrap, I have no idea. Haven't even seen the new model. All I know is that my V1 works better than anything else I've ever owned, it's made in such a way to be easily upgradable when new technology is available, and I love the display.

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Sypher (www.sypher.com)
'01 Black CL Type-S #A026044
Valentine-1