darrinb

i'm gettin new rubber in the spring..

heres my situation...

i have pirelli snows on right now my stockers are in a land fill some where..

i have narrowed my choices down to the toyo t1-s or the toyo proxes 4

if i get the t1-s i'll have to get new tires in the winter cause i cant drive the t1-s in the snow and my snow tires arent driveable for next winter, the t1-s also wear quicker but are stickier than the proxes 4

if i go w/ the proxes 4's i can use them all year around and wont have to shell out 600 for winter tires and they will last longer but not as sticky...

choices choices...

i'm sure even the proxes 4's are way better than the stockers but i'm wondering if i'm gonna need the extra traction from the t1-s...

any one got any opinions...

i'm goin w/ 225/45/17 btw


thanks

db

J.T.'s 3.2CL

I know for a fact the Bridgestone S-03 is a great summer tire. They are too heavy and expensive though. I'm curious to what others have to say about both model Toyo's.

manhed

my dad puts the t1-s' on his miata, says he's never had a better tire

sgmotoring

Toyo Proxes 4 are very squeaky tires. Not very good in any road condition.

Shawn S

I’m pretty sure I’m going with the Toyo Proxes 4 myself, but I’m not abandoning my snow tires.
Even though the Toyo’s are M/S rated, I don’t think they will be all that great in deep snow and icy conditions.

Good info here if you missed this thread: http://www.acura-cl.com/forums/showt...highlight=toyo

Shawn S

Shawn S

And your source of this HIGHLY detailed analysis is

1killercls

I disagree...the wife has them on her G20 and they are great tires.

CCType-S

Darrin, the Proxy 4 are good tires but I wouldn't recommend driving in shitty day likes two week ago (I'm talk about likes 4-6inches of snow fallin within couple hours).

fuzzy02CLS

iTrader: (2)

The T1's ROCK. Best tire I ever used. I had the the old Toyo FZ4's. Those tires did suck big time. The new 4's are supposed to be better. However I would go with a good all season if I lived where you do. Makes no sense $$ wise to get a good sumer tire that wears fast, & have snow tires. To me at least.

johntypes

dunlap sp5000

darrinb

still havent made up my mind, i wish i can test both the tires

sgmotoring

6spdmanual had a set of Toyo FZ4 Proxes 4 in 235/40/18. We thought it squeak through corner like it is loosing traction and spin like crazy in wet condition. He couldn't stand it and replaced them with SO-3. He sold those tires back to the tire shop for $100 credit. Those tires had more than 75% tread left!

Red Rider

You won't regret getting the T1Ss. Just switch to snows when you need to.

darrinb

it will cost me alot more money

Chopsie

I am in the same dilemma. Probably Toyo T1's, Sumi HTR's.

Chopsie

Thought I saw somwhere, that you can test the SO3's before buying.

darrinb

i'd bring em back bald

pimpscls

i have the toyo proxes 4 but i live in california, but regardless of that the traction is great and there is less treadwere and for 525 bucks im not complaining

6spdmanual

That's 100% true. To be honest - WORST then OEM Michelins!!!! I trade them in for my S-03. Yep TRADE-IN for tires, because they are so new and the owner willing to take them for $100.

As a user opinion after 3000 miles: they DO NOT GRIP. No matter dry or wet.

6spdmanual

See below:

30 Day test drive

Shawn S

http://www.toyo.com/500_mile_offer/content.html

typeR

you can ...both tires have a 500 mile ride comfort gurantee...try the 4's if you dont like them switch...

darrinb

thanks for the link

EricL

BTW, the T1S stand apart from the 4-season Toyos for 3-season (rain/dry) use and are about as sticky as you can get without going to R-rated rubber.

So, if you find the Toyo all-season stuff is not to your liking, don't extend the comparison to the T1S. The same should be said for other brands and makes of tires. Buy the make, not the brand...

Also, make sure the tire dealer KNOWS you intend to take advantage of the 500-mile offer and make sure he keeps your trade-in tires (long story).

darrinb

thanks for the advice eric

dgracer

What other tire did you consider? How is the noise/ride compared to stock? How many miles do you have on them so far?

darrinb

525 seems like a great deal

flint

iTrader: (2)

If you go to the track much I would go with the T1s for sure. I get consistent 60' times. I also think that while they do wear quicker than harder compound tires, the wear is not excessive.

beerknurd

Darrin, you really need another rim/tire for the strip. You'd extend the life of your daily's, and get better track times. They'd pay for themselves in one summer. You can pick up some cheap 16's somewhere.

darrinb

i want the time i run at the track to be near the time i would run on the street, i aint with chainging rims and tires for the track

Chopsie

Laziness is next to godliness:P

J.T.'s 3.2CL

I'm considering Yoko es100's now.